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KS1 is finished now the chonky suppressor has arrived.

Hello, I recently bought a G&G electric drum magazine, but it came without its charging cable (picture for reference). Anybody know where can I buy it separately or how it is called? It looks like having the female part of a LiPo battery from both ends. Thank you in advance

Couple of bits landed today , WAS grab bag from ebay chuffed with that but this mots popped up and was far to cheap to pass up ! Was dreading it having the i5 gearbox but nope looks a stock g&p box

Doh.......

Ah, did not realise they are NA based, so double the price after shipping 😅

In principle, I love this idea, especially the fire rate, ive always thought it should match the irl equivalent, to that end, mag capacities should also match. But In our "irl" we've got hpa dsg stubby box mag m4's, used by Teflon coated 360 no-scopers, what chance have we got of a reasonably level playing field😬

To be honest, this has been my experience as well. My VFC G3 is effective out to 50-60m and that's probably my best option. My MP7 a bit shy of that, at 50m before it has dispersion all over the place. I do find with a boltie that while the range doesn't really increase, the precision does a little. Whether that's just using heavier BBs or the actual power bump, I dunno. My boltie is basically a Mk12 build with a bolt action built in, so I get the ergonomics of a good DMR but higher power from it being a boltie. I find I can get first shot hits a lot more often at long ranges, and it makes peeking engagements a lot easier to win. I can hit a head or exposed arsecheek at the range my standard guns could hope to hit a man sized target.

I do get the wish to replicate and differentiate the various weapon types and representative calibers. If we're talking dream worlds then in addition I'd change the fire rates to more accurately match the real world counterparts.

I’m flexible on price boys, truth is that’s what I paid for it, they ain’t getting any cheaper.

Back in the days when Battle Lakes regularly attracted 100+ players, Tony’s briefing used to mention that fully auto capable rifles and SMGs were limited to a 3 (possibly 2?) second burst, but for LMGs, “it’s your gearbox”. LMGs in airsoft can be used to suppress, which is what they do in reality, albeit at risk to the gearbox.

Cheers everyone, I've got a pin-spanner on order now which should do the job nicely 👍 I'll update the thread documenting the entire pin-replacement process (and the tools used) once everything arrives CoCost

I will say that my arguments for higher limits will come from a position of bias as I pretty much always do long range airsoft and it's what I enjoy (my longest hit in a game was 124m, but it was basically archery from an elevated position), but with how good hop ups are now, bolt actions and DMRs are a lot less useful with their current power levels. Granted, I still use them because it's what I enjoy, but in practical airsoft terms you gain very little from using a bolt action or DMR. I've done... a lot of testing with this, because I'm a big long-range enthusiast, and I'll go into details below. The TL:DR is that hops are good, and in airsoft practicality (not range accuracy, but a "I can hit that airsofter over there" in game) a regular 1.14J gun can hit players at the same ranges as a 2.32J bolt action rifle. I don't think we'd ever get higher limits anyway, because airsoft power limits are set by law (1.3J max full auto, 2.5J max semi/bolt action) and so we are constrained by that. The only variation tends to be on DMRs as even for me living in the black hole of airsoft sites that is Sussex, I've seen them at 1.48J (Gunman), 1.64J (Southdown/Allsorts), 1.88J (Worthing/Driver Wood) and 2.32J (Shift Your RIFT) Now if you want to indulge in my autism, read on. If not, stop reading and save yourself before it's too late... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I don't care if your "bolt action hits 100m easily". I've been building sniper rifles and DMRs for decades, and I know in my eyes what the effective range is for a 2.3J gun; every time someone makes what I consider an outlandish or exaggerated claim about their gun's range, I have found it to be overstated 100% of the time and usually shoot worse than my rifles. My measure for "effective range" is being capable of hitting a man-sized target at least 8/10 times, preferably 9/10 times, in ideal shooting conditions (no wind, good visibility). All of my findings are from just me spending time on the range and tinkering with different guns and different approaches, so it's all coming where the shooter has the same standards. A well-tuned bolt action will hit a man-sized target pretty accurately at 75m with a relatively flat trajectory (a tiny little bump at the end of the shot). You'll probably be able to hit 85m as well, but that requires a bit of angling or increasing the hop up a little bit. You can hit out further, though at this point there's progressively more and more luck involved with the shot as range increases. It will involve more aggressive angling of the gun and the gun is probably moving when you rack the bolt with each shot, making it a challenge to reset to the exact same position. A well-tuned DMR (assuming 1.88J) will hit a man-sized target pretty accurately at 70m with much the same trajectory. You'll probably be able to hit out to 75 - 80m as well with the same practices of angling or increasing hop a little bit. It's also easier to do this as it's quicker and easier to make follow up shots with a DMR and so you might be able to hit a target out to that same 85m as the bolt action as you can walk in your shots a lot easier. Again, you can hit out further, but as range increases, so does the luck element. A well-tuned 1.14J gun will hit a man-sized target pretty accurately at ~55m with the same trajectory. You can also hit 60m pretty often too with gentle angling. However, the big difference here is that you have full-auto, and therefore the angling component of getting more range is so much easier. After all, a hit is a hit and it doesn't matter if that hit was one well placed shot, or 100 BBs sprayed at an angle. I haven't managed to hit 85m (partially because the tree canopy stopped me from that aggressive level of angling), but I have easily hit 75m with a 1.14J gun by flipping it to full auto and spraying at an angle (the target is metal and makes a delightfully audible pinging noise when hit). Is it as accurate as a bolt action rifle hitting it with 9/10 shots? No. Does that matter in airsoft gameplay terms? Not really; a hit is still a hit and that player is still going back to respawn. You also have no MED, which is nice. Accuracy by volume is a big part of effectiveness in airsoft because of how inaccurate our guns are.

Cheers mate. Dying to shoot it, but I want my son to be the first... It feels quality and well made, and fits snuggly and securely.

I can't say I've ever had more than a small bruise from Airsoft, and I once did a Halloween CQB game in a witch outfit. (Did sting a bit though). I don't think you gain *that much* range from higher power limits. Chatting to Americans with an average 1.5J limit for automatic Airsoft guns, they seem to have pretty comparable effective ranges. It's all in the hop up after all. That said, I would like the legal limits relaxed based on RoF like we have now, for special events. Those Americans have pretty free rein so they can do GPMGs running at DMR limits, and .50 stationary HMGs running at 2.3J. I think that would be really fun for MilSim and LARP, could be managed by making sure the operator isn't a dick, and it would be nice if it wasn't technically illegal to have that.

The angle myself and some others are aiming for with our dreamworld scenarios would be to bring some diversity to the field by giving pews some minor flavour of their real world utility. Eg why lug around a heavy support gun when your stuck at the same effective ranges as someone with a featherweight m4 and box mag. But to re-stress this is an entirely hypothetical dream world where people play fair. And frankly i'd take a flat 0.5j legal limit and enforced 2-tones if it came with a magic spell that would make everyone play fair. Can be fun to dream though.

Interesting, some really good arguments for and against which I hadn’t considered myself. (OT - this is why it annoys me when forums die out in favour of content farms like Reddit et al, you don’t get the same level of discourse). I think I must be one of the masochists - about 75% of my time is spent at my local CQB site in shorts and t-shirt (I’m not a speed softer, I just get too hot) and whilst I do tend to finish with a lot of big bruises and welts, higher power wouldn’t put me off (within reason). I suppose to qualify my original question, my practical ideal power limit is that which encourages the most participation, causes the least headaches for site operators and attracts the minimum attention from regulation or bad press - I’ve had enough hobbies die out as it is without another one being killed off. Nonetheless, I’ve never used anything over UK limits, I’d love to back to back test on the same gun to see what different power limits really do to range and accuracy to see if there is Goldilocks style zone for an airsoft gun.

Current UK airsoft limits are limited by the Police and Crime bill, providing you are within the limit your RIF / IF is fully exempted from firearms legislation Previously, though there were Home Office guidelines (which I believe were similar to the now legal limit) the legal limit was under firearms legislation for air weapons at 6ft lbs and 12 ft lbs (pistol type and rifle type) Note that there have been legal arguments that the lack of a rifled barrel can make the 6ft lb rule applicable 6ft lbs = 8.13 joules 12ft lbs = 16.27 joules The higher 2.5 joule allowance is 1.8 ft lbs UK airsoft has a nice and simple set of limits which is reinforced by legislation and explicitly excludes (compliant) airsoft from firearms legislation In paintball however, we remain in the murky world of firearms legislation (6/12 ft lbs), case law (max 300fps) Home Office guidelines (with a good working relationship with the UKPSF), and varying interpretations of placement under the VCRA

Love this, I originally wanted to put one on my DMR as a I case someone slips inside the MED but I don’t think these have the 30m range to cover the gap.

I would say no. 1.13j limit is plenty for CQB, I cringe at chrono when the HPA rifles and pistols are tuning their pressures to be at exactly 1.13j when the max engagement distance is 10m. I’ve had plenty of blood injuries and a couple of scars so don’t feel more power is needed. 1.13j limit is fine for woodland pistol/auto rifle. I think if you increase the power limit you will just increase the engagement distance, MED or no MED. My old TM AK has well under 1j of power but comfortably holds its own out to 50/60m from its excellent hop. If you increase power limits you would need to work on the accuracy as well as flinging BB’s further/harder is only part of this. More power and the need for more accuracy would just make the game more expensive to get into and frustrate/put off new players who run and gun a OOB AEG. 1.88j is plenty for DMR. I love shooting my DMR, really good for sitting on the flanks suppressing any enemy advancements but a 30m MED in woodland is hard enough as it is with trees and bushes limiting sight lines. Also had a couple of mates come to me after a game to say they know it’s me that shot them given how much more it stings. 2.5j is plenty for boltys. Similar to above, a 30m sight line is difficult enough as it is and being picked off by a sniper you can’t see and potentially can’t reach with returning fire will get even more annoying! Add to that the cheats out there won’t put their hands up when they get shot be that at 1.13j or 1.5j. Cheats also won’t observe any MED leading to more salty players or players simply not returning.