VFC KS-1/L403A1 GBBR

[Anonymoose]

On 13/08/2025 at 15:32, GiantKiwi said:

 

EMS shipping is significantly cheaper than that. On a 10KG order from Taiwan, I paid less than £45. A single rifle is going to be less than £30.

 

My last single rifle order from ProAct had a £74 shipping cost. A single pistol + 3 mags cost £26 in shipping.

[ButcherBill]

Don't think this has been posted yet but this appeared on my YT feed.

 

 

[mightyjebus]

Combat South will have them in the shop very soon.

[ButcherBill]

15 minutes ago, mightyjebus said:

Combat South will have them in the shop very soon.

is this rumour or really happening?

[mightyjebus]

1 hour ago, ButcherBill said:

is this rumour or really happening?

Might only be one left even before they arrive. Might want to give them a call. 

[1st commando]

16 hours ago, mightyjebus said:

Combat South will have them in the shop very soon.

Hopefully the end of next week depending  which day the shipment arrives in uk distribution.  They are due next week but if it's Thursday they may not get to shops in time for the weekend

[TheFull9]

Does VFC avoid knocking-off magpul stuff usually? The stock and pistol grip seem an odd choice, all the pics of issued 403s I can see have a CTR and MIAD.

[Lyndication]

They don't have a Magpul license 

[TheFull9]

Naturally, but neither do E&C or the many chinese airsoft brands that knock-off magpul; becuase nobody has the license since PTS lost it (unless something changed recently?). Possibly they have a US based arm and hence actually care about litigation.

[Lyndication]

VFC tends to do either licensed releases, or unlicensed. When they do licensed releases, like an official KAC L403A1 replica, they tend to make sure everything is above board. They get the rights to MLOK via KAC, for example, as they're reproducing KAC's design that in turn includes Magpul's MLOK IP.

 

When VFC wants to do something completely unlicensed, they go to one of their shell companies, like Maruyama, APFG, or Star Arms. That way they can do B&T or Sig products without incurring the relevant costs or design oversight. For example, VFC P320s via Stark Arms or Parabellum run much better overall than the officially licensed Sigair P320s because Sig demanded they be designed for CO2 first and foremost as military/law enforcement training aids and Airsoft toys distant second.

 

Generally KAC is not gunna want its officially licensed replica to have stolen IP from other companies, so you tend to get basic A2 grips and the like on them. Overall it tends to be pretty all-or-nothing in terms of replicas.

 

That's before you get into companies that just hold licenses and outsource to companies like VFC, such as Umarex or Cybergun.

[TheFull9]

1 hour ago, Lyndication said:

Generally KAC is not gunna want its officially licensed replica to have stolen IP from other companies, so you tend to get basic A2 grips and the like on them. Overall it tends to be pretty all-or-nothing in terms of replicas.

 

Do they have licenses from Reptilia and B5 Systems? (No clue on that myself)

 

They obviously have their sister companies for the added metaphorical/legal 'distance' for various other releases, not sure that's what's happening with this one. Feels more like they just went off early press release pics for the grip and I don't get the stock choice. Not that it matters because anyone who's trying to copy a setup will slide the knock-off Bravo right off and most likely slap on whatever else they saw in a military pic (which is basically always a CTR).

[Lyndication]

They only really bother with licenses for guns tbh. Where manufacturers have accessories they replicate those, but they don't really seem to go in for repros of tactical accessories.

 

Based on the Armourer's Bench video it looks like the L403 is used a lot with Magpul SLK stocks. They probably just don't have a repro license for that and slapped the basic not-B5 stock they use on their AEGs/GBBs. 

Edited August 30 by Lyndication

[Cannonfodder]

According to their faceache post JD Airsoft have them on pre order now with an estimated arrival date of September 5th. No mention of price though, probably because it's faceache 

[1st commando]

VFC will not copy magpul furniture and they have just put cost effective items on knowing people are going to change them right away if they are fussed and if not it doesn't matter.  JD will get them the same day as combat south 

[Wavey_Gravey]

They make the B5 stock for other models so cost savings on that front.

 

Th reptilia grip is an odd choice but they did win a contract for accessories and early photos of the KS1 had a CQG grip.

 

Personally I like the grip.

 

 

[ButcherBill]

Well I just joined the hundreds/thousands of middle aged blokes & pre-ordered one.

Edited September 1 by ButcherBill

[Anonymoose]

On 31/08/2025 at 18:15, ButcherBill said:

I just pre-ordered one.

 

No. I refuse to believe it.

[ButcherBill]

Och, it's only money.

Besides... it was either this or a VFC M16A2

Edited September 2 by ButcherBill

[lokkers]

17 hours ago, ButcherBill said:

Besides... it was either this or a VFC M16A2

 

That's exactly my conundrum 😂

[GiantKiwi]

At this point, its actually cheaper in the UK, sure enough the postage from proact is bonkers, so I will gladly admit i was very wrong there - which screams to me, consumer not business posting. So that'll be a fuck no from them, as KIC can post a bigger and heavier rifle from Taiwan for ~$56 insured with EMS, so why I got quoted $140 for EMS from proact makes no sense other than they do not have access to business posting - information that was freely obtainable by contacting Chungwha post direct, which I have done.

[DerDer]

We will have nice functioning MCX and KS-1 replicas. Then Project GrayBurn will decide to go with the Beretta or Sako offering. 

[Lyndication]

Good, I want a Sako replica

[DerDer]

18 minutes ago, Lyndication said:

Good, I want a Sako replica

G&G had a RK replica in the past, so there might be hope with the various Scandi adoptions. A Sako or something like an IWI Arad would be a nice new replica. Scratch the AR but not quite itch. 

[EvilMonkee]

Am I the only person going 'Meh just another M4?'  I get the British connection but other than that 'Meh'

[Lyndication]

No, there's millions of us