lemon191 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 i noticed white is not part of the allowed colours to use and was just wondering why? i wouldnt say white is very realistic unless you live in a country that has snow all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZKaleem Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 well as you said, some armed forces use white guns, depending where they are. so it can be quite realistic in some cases and also, white is a very easy colour to paint or cover with another such as black or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted August 7, 2011 Supporters Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ass above, white guns are used in real life etc... It's the same reason why blue doesn't count either (although lots of places sell blue guns anyway....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ass above, white guns are used in real life etc...It's the same reason why blue doesn't count either (although lots of places sell blue guns anyway....) i did guess about the use of white as a camo but i thought as it wont be in use in this country and i cant see someone taking a gun which is painted half white any more seriously as a brght orange/red/green etc, either way doesnt matter that much i was just wondering if there was any other reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZKaleem Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ass above, white guns are used in real life etc...It's the same reason why blue doesn't count either (although lots of places sell blue guns anyway....) lol thanks but yeah alot of blue guns are still sold and my guess is that the people in charge of VCRA cant be bothered to chase this up, i think there was one retailer somewhere selling a white GR16 and not asking for a UKARA number but i dont remember who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted August 7, 2011 AF-UK Founding Member Share Posted August 7, 2011 It has to be a bright colour that stands out too, as far as I'm aware. Whilst white can be bright, I wouldn't describe it as that nor does it stand out much, and many a member of the public might still view it as a RIF rather than an IF. If it is bright orange or green or something it is slightly more obvious that it isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The armed Police use blue guns in training so blue is no longer allowed to be used as 2tone. White may be classed as an artic camo and isnt allowed. I think the only decent 2tone colour is green, it comes as standard and really decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarsus Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 So two tones, like orange/black are allowed without UKARA? But there are no good makes out there on the market I guess... with hop-ups etc. So what's the point of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted December 5, 2011 AF-UK Founding Member Share Posted December 5, 2011 There's plenty of decent two tones out there, plus many stores offer a spray service so you can get your hands on things which aren't normally two tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarma70 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ass above, white guns are used in real life etc...It's the same reason why blue doesn't count either (although lots of places sell blue guns anyway....) my mate has a G&G m4 combat machine 2 tone black and blue and that was bought with no ukara mumbo jumbo. what happens if you get a RIF 2 toned and the paint comes off due to poor spraying prep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted December 7, 2011 Supporters Share Posted December 7, 2011 Like I said. It isn't legal, but most places do it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 my mate has a G&G m4 combat machine 2 tone black and blue and that was bought with no ukara mumbo jumbo. what happens if you get a RIF 2 toned and the paint comes off due to poor spraying prep? would say this is a grey area really. it would be pretty obvious that its just worn off rarther than you trying to remove the paint as the main bulk of the colour should still be intack while the worn areas would be around the grips/stock although technically you should probably touch it up so its the bright/ correct amount again though i dout anyone would say anything if you didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 ^that. what happens if you get a RIF 2 toned and the paint comes off due to poor spraying prep? Owning a RIF is not against the law no matter what. However if you do a poor spray job on purpose you're breaking the law. edit: btw could mod change the title from "two tone colours" to something more accurate like "white as a two tone colour".. trying to find a thread with a list of the allowed colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickona Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 oh white camo in scotland? its all been said, but what dev said about asking shops to spray, a lot of them will often give you a choice of colour, normally green or blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 yea or tan in england *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 yea or tan in england *shakes head* my bad on the topic title ive changed it now though so shouldnt interfere with the future searchs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickona Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Also I don't think you can get white to be very bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Also I don't think you can get white to be very bright not true, i resprayed my alloy wheels white and they were pretty damn bright but it needs to be prepared and sprayed properly. i have a white car and must admit when its parked near other colours it doesnt stick out as much as they do i guess the other colours were chosen for the fact they draw your attention where as white while being bright can be missed in the back ground abit more i assue this would be because of lighting and how our eyes react to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Matt! Posted December 16, 2011 Supporters Share Posted December 16, 2011 Still looks like an RIF to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Finius Posted December 17, 2011 Supporters Share Posted December 17, 2011 Real soldiers may spray their weapons white when on exercise in snowy climates, therefore, white is a colour used on REAL firearms and cannot be used to make something VCRA compliant under the IF category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted December 17, 2011 Supporters Share Posted December 17, 2011 What if real soldiers had to fight in candy floss land? Surely that means pink shouldn't be allowed either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickona Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What if real soldiers had to fight in candy floss land? Surely that means pink shouldn't be allowed either? these are the questions! is red on the 2 tone list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 source: website i got it from dimensions and colours: - a height of 38mm and a length of 70mm. An imitation firearm with dimensions less than this is to be regarded as unrealistic - transparent - bright red - bright orange - bright yellow - bright green - bright pink - bright purple - bright blue. -- not sure but i kept hearing that blue was taken off the list? so could be an out of date link but wouldnt imagine the other colours have changed. i also noticed this : 13. An imitation firearm the principal colour of which is not one of those listed in the Regulations does not automatically fall to be regarded as realistic, although it is more likely that that will be the case. In these circumstances, the general test of whether it is distinguishable from a real firearm, taking into account its size, colour etc, should be applied. It is worth keeping in mind that the intention behind this measure is to stop the supply of imitations which look so realistic that they are being used by criminals to threaten and intimidate their victims. imo this makes the white gun a case of at the sellers disgression on wether they regard it as a rif or not although obviously most retailers will take the safe option to avoid hassle, it still could be argued that it doesnt count as a rif as i dont know many people who would treat a white gun any different to a blue/red/green etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickona Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 nice work there lemon! I'd imagine it depends on how the police see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Liam Porter Posted December 17, 2011 Supporters Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'd imagine it depends on how the police see it Colourful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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