Moderators Tackle Posted June 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 12, 2020 Hey guys, Thought I'd give a heads up, there's a member here by the name of JubJub, been on here a long time but never actually posted much, seemingly preferring to use zeroin instead. Recently he was banned on zin for his selling "issues & irregularities", I only became aware when another member contacted me here as he was having issues with a sale & I'd previously given JubJub negative feedback due to his timewasting (I'd actually forgotten I'd done this, as I rarely give poor feedback). Anyway, since his ban over there he's started selling here, at least one member here currently has a PayPal case against for supplying incomplete/damaged kit, others may be having issues but not made it public yet ?. Essentially he'll waste your time, send kit broken or incomplete, if you actually receive anything it will arrive much later than promised, & his latest jape is selling singular items to more than one member, so again someone ain't getting what they paid for. I'm not posting this lightly, I'm not in the business of character assassination, but if anyone is considering buying from him, be aware of what to expect. The zin thread can be found here: https://forums.zeroin.co.uk/forum/classifieds/rate-a-trader/3135647-warning-forum-user-jubjub Good luck suckers 😜 Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted June 13, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 13, 2020 Not fun having to call people out, but its good for the community to have stuff like this out in the open asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I'd already dropped a PM to Proffrink about this, massive thanks to Tackle for posting up on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I have also had issues with Jubjub sale agree payment information requested, then Jubjub completely ghosted me failed to respond to several PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 13, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted June 13, 2020 I would say that if anybody has ongoing "negotiations" with him, secure an alternative line of Comms, in case he drops (or gets pushed) off the forum. Like I said earlier, I'm not looking blacken his name, just make people aware of the issues surrounding him, but it appears he has been a "messer" for a long time. in a perfect world I'd hope this would be enough to push him to sort his shit out & behave as a responsible user, same as 99.9% of other members. In case he's not aware @jubjub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I've just got an email from JubJub asking how much he needs to refund me. 🤨 Whether this has been prompted by the Paypal Dispute i have started, an attack of conscience , or whatever. Then i simply do not know. In the meantime :- No mention of my missing goods (some of which he saw fit to sell to someone else, resulting in JubJub being paid twice. No apologies for being messed around and the poor communications overall. So, i will advise him of the sum that he owes me and once its confirmed as received by myself, i can then update this thread and the one on Z1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Archer said: I've just got an email from JubJub asking how much he needs to refund me. 🤨 Whether this has been prompted by the Paypal Dispute i have started, an attack of conscience , or whatever. Then i simply do not know. In the meantime :- No mention of my missing goods (some of which he saw fit to sell to someone else, resulting in JubJub being paid twice. No apologies for being messed around and the poor communications overall. So, i will advise him of the sum that he owes me and once its confirmed as received by myself, i can then update this thread and the one on Z1 Send your response through the PayPal dispute messaging A direct email from him is off the record as far as they are concerned (Idealy if the character limit permits quote his email in your PayPal reply) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Paypal dispute is already in place. As/when/if i get a refund directly from jubjub, then i will advise Paypal accordingly. Meantime, it stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I am getting the run around right know from him too . He will answer Ur message . Won't give a answer on what he is doing just like he is prolonging it . Told him I have put PayPal case against him last week(1st June) for faulty goods and parts that don't fit and broken . Just messaged him again as he read last message and no reply . So told him I will let PayPal sort of from now as he clearly doesn't want to . They will be on the buyer side as can see he has history of having claims against him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I don't see the point of allowing a person like this to remain a member of the forum. Situations like this may affect the reputation of the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Can we not ban him please till paypal cases are sorted . Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted June 13, 2020 Head Moderator Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 13/06/2020 at 17:41, Kls77 said: Can we not ban him please till paypal cases are sorted . Thanks in advance No. He has been a member here since 2013 without any complaints against him. He seems like many other sellers on here who do not list sales properly or provide details of everything, and have poor comms. But I have not received any reports of any member being ripped off; Zeroin was just a failed sale, and sellers prerogative to choose who to sell to. Some of the PMs Mods receive about dodgy sales makes Jubjub look normal. I do know that there are other cockwombles on this forum whom I would not purchase from. All sales are purely between members ( a reason for not putting your mobile or email for public view on a sales advert). Edit: Sales feedback is two positive and one negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 That's far enough . Just didn't want him getting banned then I couldn't contact or use his messages and for sale info for my PayPal case . I have asked him for a full refund myself and would send him it all back at his expense . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jedi_Master said: Zeroin was just a failed sale, and sellers prerogative to choose who to sell to. Hi, can i just point out it wasn't just a failed sale on Zero In. I am not the only individual that has had issues with this seller. He took money via paypal for goods that were initially sold and paid for and then refunded buyers ,as it seems he had sold them elsewhere to other buyers. In my case, i had agreed a purchase on the relevant items which i then paid for. It then transpires that some of the items i had paid for had then been sold on again and shipped to someone else. Which i believe is fraudulent in nature. Just because no-one had previously raised an issue with this seller does not guarantee that there hasnt been any problems. It just means that no-one before now has raised the matter on this forum. Its your forum to do with as you see fit and thank you for allowing me to make use of it. But once my issue is finally resolved with Jubjub, then thats it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 13, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Kls77 said: Can we not ban him please till paypal cases are sorted . Thanks in advance Or at the very least, restrictions on his ability to access classifieds until everyone with an issue is happy ? 2 hours ago, Jedi_Master said: No. He has been a member here since 2013 without any complaints against him. Sales feedback is positive. He seems like many other sellers on here who do not list sales properly or provide details of everything, and have poor comms. But I have not received any reports of any member being ripped off; Zeroin was just a failed sale, and sellers prerogative to choose who to sell to. Some of the PMs Mods receive about dodgy sales makes Jubjub look normal. I do know that there are other cockwombles on this forum whom I would not purchase from. All sales are purely between members ( a reason for not putting your mobile or email for public view on a sales advert). I gave him negative feedback 2 years ago, for timewasting & then ghosting me, even though he was reading PM's. Manners cost nothing, but thankfully my issue didn't cost me, unlike other members who've been left out of pocket, at least until PayPal resolves it. Not the actions of a trustworthy seller imho 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Anyone heard off him ? Not had a message off him since all this ? He has read my messages from here with no reply . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kls77 said: Anyone heard off him ? Not had a message off him since all this ? He has read my messages from here with no reply . As has been seen on here and elsewhere, his comms are very erratic to say the least. I replied to his email yesterday and as yet no reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 14/06/2020 at 16:51, Archer said: As has been seen on here and elsewhere, his comms are very erratic to say the least. I replied to his email yesterday and as yet no reply Anything to u form him I had a reponse on message on here telling me he is very busy and wants to sort it out. But not actually doing anything about it . Been like that for a few days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Still nothing. Wants to sort it out ? Seems to me that he doesnt seem to be making any progress. And busy ? Doing what exactly ? Avoiding his responsibilities ? Paypal dispute is still in place, Small Claims Court will be contacted this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macv276 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Archer said: Still nothing. Wants to sort it out ? Seems to me that he doesnt seem to be making any progress. And busy ? Doing what exactly ? Avoiding his responsibilities ? Paypal dispute is still in place, Small Claims Court will be contacted this week. I've had to go through this process (not with anything airsoft related). Be prepared to wait a long time and spend a lot of money. Just a heads up. Sounds like the guy deserves it though, fair play if you are going down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Archer said: Still nothing. Wants to sort it out ? Seems to me that he doesnt seem to be making any progress. And busy ? Doing what exactly ? Avoiding his responsibilities ? Paypal dispute is still in place, Small Claims Court will be contacted this week. Hopefully PayPal will just refund me . I am Happy with that . Hope urs get sorted too . Tbh think PayPal will see that he has habit of doing this and be more on our side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 No reply back from Jubjub. According to the Resolution Centre page on Paypal, he has until 27th June. Not holding my breath in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 19, 2020 Author Moderators Share Posted June 19, 2020 If he chooses to bury his head in the sand, great, everybody gets all the money back, then ban the mofo 😠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Tackle said: If he chooses to bury his head in the sand, great, everybody gets all the money back, then ban the mofo 😠 Getting refunded is my only concern. Down to the Admins on whether or not to ban him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kls77 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 My last few messages from Wednesday was him asking me when I took out the PayPal claim and how long has the claim left I responded "I am busy and not his PA" Nothing since Wednesday back off him so he doesn't want to solve things . So waiting for PayPal to solve it know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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