wire2k Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Ive been looking at a G&G CM16 Predator as a first RIF but not having much joy finding recent reviews. Everything i find is about 3 years old with some complaints of issues with MOSFET and lots of having to send back on warranty or refunds. Has anyone purchased one of these in the last 3 months or so and can confirm if the initial issues have been resolved? Some of what ive seen says that to begin with the Predator supported various volt Ni-Mh and LiPo but you now have to run with 11.1v LiPo. Can anyone confirm this is the case and if so recommend batts that will fit the small stock? I like the idea of the Predator as a first RIF with MOSFET and ETU for some future proofing and ill hardly have to touch the internals but if its just going to cause me loads of hassle id rather go for Raider 2.0 and slowly upgrade it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 They are fine now. Had my wildhog nearly a year and had no trouble (same mosfet/etu combo) With batteries it’s always been the case that you need 11.1 and that is what was causing some of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan13n Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 If you follow the instruction and don't use anything bigger then a 11.1 25c lipo battery you will be perfectly fine. Don't use nimh, life or a anything less then a 11.1v and you should be all good. Got one in my spare cm16 for just over a year. Ran every weekend no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Knight Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I've owned a CM16 Predator for 16 months now, Mosfet blew in the first 2 months (too much full auto), bought a replacement and spare directly from G&G without issues. The piston is a little soft on the teeth and you will have to replace it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 Thanks guys thats good to hear so 11.1v Li Po less than 25C. Ive also seen stories about trouble fitting LiPo in tube with the mosfet. Can anyone confirm if either these will fit? https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-2600mah-20c-crane.html https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-2600mah-nunchuck.html Full auto shouldnt be a problem for me as im not very trigger happy and tend to sit on semi so hopefully the mosfet will last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 If it has the same stock as the GC predator (assuming it does) then you’ll want the 1450mah versions of those batteries. I know they’ll fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 Damn have on the same site but the 1450mah there are 30C https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-1450mah-30c-stick.html https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-1450mah-30c-crane.html Found these may do: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11-1V-800-to-2600mAh-Airsoft-LiPO-Battery-All-Sizes-Custom-Connector/121637306533?hash=item1c522600a5:m:ms0SkgaomtCN52QteA5f1Fw&frcectupt=true https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Airsoft-11-1v-1450mAh-20c-Li-Po-Battery-Vapextech-LP210/220806966404?hash=item33691eec84:g:-PEAAMXQKAtRJfQ3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, wire2k said: https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-1450mah-30c-crane.html These are the exact ones I use, they’ll be fine. Just get 2 and swap over at lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Prisce Posted March 5, 2019 Supporters Share Posted March 5, 2019 Or look on Hobbyking or Component shop and see if the measurements are the same as any there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polluxtroy69 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I use these for my GC16 Fconegy 3S 11.1V 1200mAh 20C Lipo Battery Pack with Small Tamiya Plug for Airsoft Gun (Triple Pack) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CXH9K8P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jp5FCbVTMJZ9Z Not had any issues. And fit in the stock pretty well. Had the RIF for a 8 or 9 months and not had any issues with both the RIF or the batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Thanks for the info guys. Got my third day at Dogtag, Holbush this Sunday and see about my UKARA. Once UKARA comes through (dont know how long it takes to process) will head for nearby www.surplusstore.co.uk Shopping list: GC16 Predator https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/g-g-gc16-predator-hunter-green.html 2x 11.1 Lipo https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-11-1v-1450mah-30c-crane.html 1x Charger (Site has a charger and batt bundle option with the RIF so may just need the 1 spare Lipo) 1x Mid Cap Mag (Will get more in future but im not very trigger happy and there usually enough time to restock between rounds) https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/bb-guns/bb-gun-accessories/airsoft-magazines/electric-gun-magazines/electric-rifle-magazines/g-g-gr16-plastic-magazine-5798.html If budget allows: 556 Holosight (but if not ill be fine with Iron sights for now) https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-886-556-style-sight.html At some point id want to put a mock suppressor on the RIF but with barrel receded in the handguard cant slap just anything on it. Can anyone confirm what diameter suppressor would fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilianoksa Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Aren't they available cheaper than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, emilianoksa said: Aren't they available cheaper than that? I have found them maybe 10-20 quid cheaper on Patrolbase and others. But at least for my first RIF happy go somewhere local and spend a little more so i got somewhere to take it back if there are any problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, wire2k said: I have found them maybe 10-20 quid cheaper on Patrolbase and others. But at least for my first RIF happy go somewhere local and spend a little more so i got somewhere to take it back if there are any problems Thats what I did, worth it in my opinion. There good blokes in there. Wouldn’t get the sight from them. They can be had for about £15-20 on eBay or amazon and they are all exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted March 15, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, wire2k said: If budget allows: 556 Holosight (but if not ill be fine with Iron sights for now) https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-886-556-style-sight.html If you don't mind 2nd hand, or the fact it's a 551 and not a 556... you can save yourself £40 here: http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/551-Style-Holosight-Used_A22NYU.aspx#.XIuT6NSLTDc Or even save £30 on a new one from Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beileshi-Holographic-Anblick-Bereich-Helligkeit/dp/B01LXAI68A/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1552651573&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=551+red+dot&psc=1 There's nothing special about the Nuprol one. In fact, I guarantee it's probably just a fancy re-box of the amazon version. With a waterslide transfer. Just now, E21A said: Wouldn’t get the sight from them. They can be had for about £15-20 on eBay or amazon and they are all exactly the same. SNAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Thanks for the sight advice. Was aiming for 556 as low profile and eventually want to put a flip to side magnifier behind it but since bout half the price on amazon a 551 will do for now. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beileshi-Holographic-Anblick-Bereich-Helligkeit/dp/B01LXAI68A/ref=sr_1_3?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1552659123&sr=8-3&keywords=holo+sight+airsoft&refinements=p_76%3A419158031 Any advice on suppressor diameter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 So my UKARA came through and i dropped into SurplusStore and got -G&G GC16 Predator https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/g-g-gc16-predator-hunter-green.html -Midcap Mag https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/bb-guns/bb-gun-accessories/airsoft-magazines/electric-gun-magazines/electric-rifle-magazines/nuprol-m4-mid-cap-mag-30-140rd.html - Two x 9.6v 1600mah NIMH https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/nuprol-9-6-1600-mah-nunchuck-crane-stock-type.html (I asked about the previous MOSFET/ETU issues and they said these are now resolved but i also asked about 11.1v LiPo and they said they they would tear up the internals and voids the 3 month warranty so as long as it works happy to stick with the 9.6v NiMh for now) -Charger https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/bulldog-nimh-battery-charger.html Also got off Amazon -Beileshi 551 Holographic Sight https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01LXAI68A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 So far very happy with it. Tried a few test shots and trigger response is great. Im not very trigger happy using single fire most the time so see me switching to the triple shot over the full auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hmmm, strange. 11.1 won’t tear up the internals at all, been using mine on them since I bought it without issue. They shouldnt have sold you 9.6v Nimh, you’ll have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire2k Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Emailed the store to check and they replied. 'Hi thanks for the email we do advise to use the 9.6 battery with the gun that you purchased it puts less stress on the gear box and parts otherwise if you do use the 11.1 it does have a habbitt of recking the piston and gears. We will always try to recommend the correct items as when we used to use 11.1 in the G&G guns These would 50 % of the time cause issues as I said previously' As before guess I'll stick with 9.6v for the 3 month warranty and maybe switch to 11.1v later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Be surprised if you get more than 1-200 shots off before the battery cut off kicks in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burny Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Email them back with the below screenshot and say Patrol Base seem to agree with what my mates have been telling me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 And the instructions say to use 11.1 to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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