MagpieTactical Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 As the title really, and I guess this is for any G&G M4/AEG Are you supposed to clean the barrel before first use? I am sure the instruction book didn't tell me to do this, but can't find an online manual to read. Anyone tell me if I should have done this? Or if the manual says to do this? Help appreciated.
E21A Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 It’s worth while to clean it, but wouldn’t say it’s essential. They’ll be plenty of crap in there no doubt.
MagpieTactical Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 Asking because I have just had the maintenance report back saying the predator had stripped gears caused by a dirty barrel. It was brand new and didn't even last the days skirmish. I suppose the problem is it could have got dirty in the morning.
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 2, 2019 Supporters Posted January 2, 2019 am i the only one here wondering how a dirty barrel nets you stripped gears?
MagpieTactical Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 No, hence why I am asking if I should have cleaned the barrel first. Edit: just re read the report it was the piston teeth, not the gears. My bad.
E21A Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: am i the only one here wondering how a dirty barrel nets you stripped gears? Nope, you’re not alone! 25 minutes ago, MagpieAirsoft said: No, hence why I am asking if I should have cleaned the barrel first. Edit: just re read the report it was the piston teeth, not the gears. My bad. Still wouldn’t be caused by a dirty barrel. Some GC16 guns didn’t have the AOE set properly at the factory, should be covered under warranty. I was told about this when I bought my wildhog.
Supporters jcheeseright Posted January 2, 2019 Supporters Posted January 2, 2019 sounds like the person who fixed it is talking shit, dirty barrel will cause accuracy problems but it'd need to be completely blocked for there to be any chance of gearbox damage and even then it's pretty unlikely.
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 2, 2019 Supporters Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, jcheeseright said: sounds like the person who fixed it is talking shit, dirty barrel will cause accuracy problems but it'd need to be completely blocked for there to be any chance of gearbox damage and even then it's pretty unlikely. the only remotest possibility i can think of is dirt making it's way all the way through the nozzle into the cylinder then jamming it somehow. although how it achieves that with a constant pounding of compressed air going against it is beyond me. as you say, poor accuracy and even jamming but even then it shouldn't be capable of damaging the actual gearing.
MagpieTactical Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 So what would cause stripped piston teeth? Sorry for the questions.
E21A Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, MagpieAirsoft said: So what would cause stripped piston teeth? Sorry for the questions. See my post above.
MagpieTactical Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 I did read that but don't really get it. Does that mean if the piston was replaced it will just happen again?
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 2, 2019 Supporters Posted January 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, MagpieAirsoft said: I did read that but don't really get it. Does that mean if the piston was replaced it will just happen again? If that's all they did and it wasnt a stronger piston then quite likely yes. If they corrected the aoe then its still possible but it will improve things
E21A Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, MagpieAirsoft said: I did read that but don't really get it. Does that mean if the piston was replaced it will just happen again? If they didn’t correct the aoe then yes it will happen again.
emilianoksa Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Don't retailers normally give feedback with that kind of thing?
Polluxtroy69 Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, MagpieAirsoft said: No, hence why I am asking if I should have cleaned the barrel first. Edit: just re read the report it was the piston teeth, not the gears. My bad. Very common to happend on the CM/GC 16 piston.
Supporters Rogerborg Posted January 3, 2019 Supporters Posted January 3, 2019 On 02/01/2019 at 12:11, MagpieAirsoft said: I have just had the maintenance report back saying the predator had stripped gears caused by a dirty barrel. And to whom should we never, ever give our business?
MagpieTactical Posted January 3, 2019 Author Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Rogerborg said: And to whom should we never, ever give our business? Well it would probably be lesson learnt most would say, and I am not one for naming a retailer when they are still dealing with an issue. I will give them a chance to respond etc. The piston apparently caused by a dirty barrel.
Polluxtroy69 Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, MagpieAirsoft said: Well it would probably be lesson learnt most would say, and I am not one for naming a retailer when they are still dealing with an issue. I will give them a chance to respond etc. The piston apparently caused by a dirty barrel. That piston damage is not caused by a dirty barrel. I would also love to know the place that has said this.
Immortal Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 I'd also love a detailed explanation from them as to how the dirty barrel caused the piston issue. I mean if that's what they claim they should be able to explain how one leads to another (which they can't.... lol).
E21A Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 Is the place doing the work the same place that you bought it from?
MagpieTactical Posted January 3, 2019 Author Posted January 3, 2019 Yes because it was returned under warranty (or that was the intention)
E21A Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MagpieAirsoft said: Yes because it was returned under warranty (or that was the intention) Then it should be covered no matter what it is. Guessing it’s not that old as you said it failed on first skirmish. Tell them you are aware it’s a common issue that should be covered under warranty (place I bought mine actually extend the warranty on the piston) and if they won’t do it then tell them you want a refund.
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 3, 2019 Supporters Posted January 3, 2019 Before you do that ask them for a detailed explanation of how the dirty barrel killed the piston then post it here for posterity memes and science.
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