copper head airsoft Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I'm thinking about getting the new 40 Mike grenade. But form what I've seen on YouTube I'm not sure if many sites will let you use it what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 You're better off asking each site individually rather than just surmising whether or not its likely. However, it is likely but always best to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I think there was a list somewhere about the sites that had banned them, This list is getting bigger everyday. All the sites in my list have them banned. Personally I would not bother and just go for a normal grenade if this is the path you looking at. Better than spending then realising that you cant use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper head airsoft Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 That's what I'm thinking to Mike. It's a shame they look like they could have had the potential to make the grenade launcher a useful weapon in airsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, copper head airsoft said: That's what I'm thinking to Mike. It's a shame they look like they could have had the potential to make the grenade launcher a useful weapon in airsoft. Been done to death , if you do a search you’ll find it . as to ‘making grenade launcher useful’ I take it you’ve never encountered across tag rounds ? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper head airsoft Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 I have seen them but not sure if there to much money for a skirmish day and are more for Muslim. What do you think? Do you use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, copper head airsoft said: I have seen them but not sure if there to much money for a skirmish day and are more for Muslim. What do you think? Do you use them? Me personally no I don’t BUT a team mate does and has to be said he’s an absolute God of War when it comes to lobbing them down range , and talk about accuracy I’d swear he can drop them on a flea’s arse at a 100paces ! 😂 Yes I do totally agree they are expensive (but then again not that much more than normal pyro , it’s the setting up that makes your eyes water 😭) I’d say it also encourages you to be selective with there use (like real grenades/launcher rounds) unlike the old Xbox world where we lob them around left right and centre ! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriffHD Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 ANy one know if those TAG rounds will fit in those small stand alone granade laucnhers or if their barrel is just too short for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper head airsoft Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ye they do mate I seen a lad running one other week at skirmish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 Theres a thread thats covered all the points, i think the cqb sites are right to ban them although it would make for a decent tool on outdoor sites with a minimum engagement distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper head airsoft Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ye I totally agree with that mate I'm going to ask my local site next weekend I would live to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Da_sheriff said: ANy one know if those TAG rounds will fit in those small stand alone granade laucnhers or if their barrel is just too short for them? They do fit (we tried one) it’s just the accuracy ain’t worth poop , the barrels are just too short on the pistol launchers to get good accuracy at distance , which to me is the whole point of a tag round , if your trying to take a fortified structure that’s got a courtyard/parapet/etc and you want to get some pyro over and in to it , unless you can get close (and in this case may as well use normal pyro) the pistol type just wern’t up to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ive got a squadmate whos been known to lob them into half-open doorways from about 150m. Think there was a video of him doing so somewhere. He uses Taggin's own launcher though - no way am I buying one of those - I could get a Marui recoil or another Daytona for that haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 My mate uses either a UGL on an L85 or a 203 on his TM416D both normal bogstandard makes and he’s getting ridiculous range and accuracy out of them ! Best incident with one , attacking the castle bridge at black ops Portishead , he fires one over the parapet from down past the bottom bridge . It arcs over the wall followed by a simultaneous boom AND scream , next thing you know we see two marshals walking a rental of site , we do think “oh shit hope he’s not hurt ?” After the game finished back in the safezone head marshal comes over and says “the tag round came sailing over the wall hit his rental gun and went off ! He had to be ‘escorted’ out of the game in shock ! “ he then turns and looks across the safezone and points out a bloke in a rental overall trying to shove a fag in his gob but failing miserably as he looked like he had advanced Parkinson’s ! 😫 He did say “from know on lads can you be a bit more careful with them?” But he did wink and chuckle to him self as he walked off ! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Druid799 said: My mate uses either a UGL on an L85 or a 203 on his TM416D both normal bogstandard makes and he’s getting ridiculous range and accuracy out of them ! Best incident with one , attacking the castle bridge at black ops Portishead , he fires one over the parapet from down past the bottom bridge . It arcs over the wall followed by a simultaneous boom AND scream , next thing you know we see two marshals walking a rental of site , we do think “oh shit hope he’s not hurt ?” After the game finished back in the safezone head marshal comes over and says “the tag round came sailing over the wall hit his rental gun and went off ! He had to be ‘escorted’ out of the game in shock ! “ he then turns and looks across the safezone and points out a bloke in a rental overall trying to shove a fag in his gob but failing miserably as he looked like he had advanced Parkinson’s ! 😫 He did say “from know on lads can you be a bit more careful with them?” But he did wink and chuckle to him self as he walked off ! 😂 Im unsure how much barrel length really matters with Taggins, as the rifling only comes from the shell itself... With real firearms, longer barrels do tend to mean greater accuracy and range, but the rifling it through the entire barrel. Regardless, I recently got a nice deal on two shells and a box of Peckers (no jokes boys, lets keep it PG), so I will either be using my metal S-Thunder short handheld launcher for one or my longer polymer double barreled launcher if I want to have two chances to miss my target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, SeniorSpaz87 said: Im unsure how much barrel length really matters with Taggins, as the rifling only comes from the shell itself... With real firearms, longer barrels do tend to mean greater accuracy and range, but the rifling it through the entire barrel. Regardless, I recently got a nice deal on two shells and a box of Peckers (no jokes boys, lets keep it PG), so I will either be using my metal S-Thunder short handheld launcher for one or my longer polymer double barreled launcher if I want to have two chances to miss my target Not saying it’s going to shoot off like a Congreve rocket , but we did find the longer barrel more accurate and had greater range which we came to the conclusion was the result of not all the energy of the gas being used to fire it , when we did fire it there was a much more noticeable release of gas noise (similar to a venting mag) as soon as you pull the trigger it’s left the barrel due to the shorter length , so your obviously going to loose pressure much quicker than with a ‘normal’ length barrel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Druid799 said: They do fit (we tried one) it’s just the accuracy ain’t worth poop , the barrels are just too short on the pistol launchers to get good accuracy at distance , which to me is the whole point of a tag round , if your trying to take a fortified structure that’s got a courtyard/parapet/etc and you want to get some pyro over and in to it , unless you can get close (and in this case may as well use normal pyro) the pistol type just wern’t up to the job. Length of the barrel makes no difference, they are rifled and the barrel has little to no effect once the round has left the shell. Just today I launched one into the middle of a group of 5 people in the pissing down rain and wind from about 150ft from my pistol launcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ok bud no sweat obviously me and my two team mates shared a mutual hallucination when we tested it and the full length barrel fired the tag much further and more accurately than the pistol launcher .😳 PS I haven’t said bog all about rifling at any time 🤦♂️ PPS was the deck of the ship swaying from side to side as well due to a norwestly squall ? (You make it sound like you were at the battle of Trafalgar ! 🤣) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 You stated the accuracy ain’t worth poop, which simply isn’t the case. It bloody felt like it at times with sideways rain in 30-40mph gusts of wind 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 The same as you bud I can only speak from personal experience which is what I did , we fired 2 smoke and 2 impact (a site we play at regularly were thinking about using them in-game so gave my team mate money to cover the cost) from his launcher and my pistol launcher . The rounds from the launcher we’re going to the end of a lane (around the 200ft mark) we were shooting down and they all landed within a 6ft’ish spread . From the pistol they were getting between 160-180ft and spread across the width of the lane (was a lovely sunny day no wind or rain ! 😁). not laboratory test but I’m happy with what we found out so I’m still stick with my original conclusion . 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Personal experiences can vary. Many things have an impact on performance. Weather, condition of projectile, condition of launcher, condition of operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, Druid799 said: The same as you bud I can only speak from personal experience which is what I did , we fired 2 smoke and 2 impact (a site we play at regularly were thinking about using them in-game so gave my team mate money to cover the cost) from his launcher and my pistol launcher . The rounds from the launcher we’re going to the end of a lane (around the 200ft mark) we were shooting down and they all landed within a 6ft’ish spread . From the pistol they were getting between 160-180ft and spread across the width of the lane (was a lovely sunny day no wind or rain ! 😁). not laboratory test but I’m happy with what we found out so I’m still stick with my original conclusion . 👍 Maybe its the different rounds then, I only use reaper rounds. Perhaps a weight difference or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbagshaw Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 22 hours ago, Duff said: Personal experiences can vary. Many things have an impact on performance. Weather, condition of projectile, condition of launcher, condition of operator. Condition of operator is so often understated on forums like this. Makes me laugh when people want a VSR to hit a target at 100m+ etc. and it's always the rifle's fault when they miss 🤣 We all need to take a step back from time to time and acknowledge that we're using toys and we're not SAS aka "Special Army Soldiers". I quite like admitting I'm a crap shot. That way, it surprises my mates when i actually hit someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, callumbagshaw said: Condition of operator is so often understated on forums like this. Makes me laugh when people want a VSR to hit a target at 100m+ etc. and it's always the rifle's fault when they miss 🤣 We all need to take a step back from time to time and acknowledge that we're using toys and we're not SAS aka "Special Army Soldiers". I quite like admitting I'm a crap shot. That way, it surprises my mates when i actually hit someone That’s one I can definitely answer , my oppo was a small arms instructor in the RAF Reg for 11yrs , so I know he can shoot ! 👍 but do totally agree some couldn’t hit a barn door with a shotgun !🤦♂️ 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbagshaw Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Druid799 said: That’s one I can definitely answer , my oppo was a small arms instructor in the RAF Reg for 11yrs , so I know he can shoot ! 👍 but do totally agree some couldn’t hit a barn door with a shotgun !🤦♂️ 😂😂😂 Ah blazing saddles, one of my favorite films of all time. Great "moron test" that film, show it someone, if they think it's genuinely racist, they're a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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