Oli.Hanks Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hi guys I got a new rifle and I'm trying to check the internals but the pins Alan key wholes are worn down to circles if you get what I mean any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 dab of superglue on the correct size allen key ten put it in the slot. or cut a slot into the screw and use a screwdriver. BTW, what new gun comes with worn to circle allen screws or was it second hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted January 18, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 18, 2017 Rounded off allen bolts bodes well for the state of the rest of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted January 18, 2017 Root Admin Share Posted January 18, 2017 Is it possible that they're just rivets? Typically if someone is using cheap allen keys then they just round off on the corners before they give up - I've not seen a gun so bad that they're literally circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli.Hanks Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 second hand haha i want to check the internals because the outside is an absoloute state but i was told the internals would be super crazy good if its not there will be a nice paypal claim haha but thanks for the ideas ill give it ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli.Hanks Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 you guys want to see a pic of this pig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rock-climby-Dave Posted January 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 19, 2017 always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 If the super glue trick doesn't work then you can try using a Torx bit that is slightly larger than the hole left by the previous butcher. If you use decent ones it'll be harder than the cheese that cheap bolts are made of and cut itself some splines as you tap it in. Then go and get friendly with the local bolt place! Decent hex keys aren't that much money and will last you forever. The Halfords Professional stuff is good and OK priced for what it is, or check for brands online. Likewise decent bolts will save you a lot of grief in the long run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeserush Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 If you aren't going to be buying new Allen heads any time soon and want a short term solution as mentioned above super glue to remove and then once out a junior hack saw along the top and turn it into a custom screw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 19, 2017 https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/en/search/q/Screw_extractor_ http://www.screwfix.com/p/screw-extractor-5-piece-set/18643 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted January 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 19, 2017 https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/en/search/q/Screw_extractor_ http://www.screwfix.com/p/screw-extractor-5-piece-set/18643 ^ this. If you use the correct tool for the job you'll minimise the possibility of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted January 19, 2017 Root Admin Share Posted January 19, 2017 Whilst typically I'd agree, I've found the cheese that is used in many airsoft machine screws to be so poor that screw extractors just chew them up more than cutting a slot in it and using a flathead (then ditching it and buying a new one). Depends on whether it has a visible head or not though I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'm a big fan of Easyouts (screw extractors) but in screws that are soft enough to chew out with an Allen key you just can't get a purchase without drilling the hole a bit deeper. The Torx bit trick generally works whether they're cap heads, countersunk, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'm a big fan of Easyouts (screw extractors) but in screws that are soft enough to chew out with an Allen key you just can't get a purchase without drilling the hole a bit deeper. The Torx bit trick generally works whether they're cap heads, countersunk, whatever.Easyouts are simple to use and what I would always recommend rather than bodging it but what do I know it's not like I do this sort of thing for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Yep, but the idea of someone without the experience to get it right the first time going at a stuck bolt with a drill and a screw extractor scares me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Especially when they're my nice screw extractors with the fine tips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Dont want him making anymore wholes in the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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