Sitting Duck

avoid jumping in and buying from:
 
justbbguns
bbguns4less
onlybbguns
 
these cater for kids mainly - yes they have a few on there that are good but in general most stuff on there
if you bought it and went to a proper skirmish site you will get ya ar$e slapped coz you can't keep up
you will be out gunned & out ranged big time and just end up getting the hump
sometimes on cqb you can get buy with cheaper stuff but woodlands at mid-long range you got no chance
 
Most on here learnt hard way - there are some good guns out there but you won't go wrong with G&G imho
yeah you can get £80 gun but will regret it in couple of months - trust me on this

Cm16. Save money for lipo and charger an your laughing. Enough said...

North London eh???
 
Quite a lot of Chinese people live over that way
They arrive at Heathrow Airport, jump into a black cab and say to cabbie:
 
"Harrow taxi driver"
 
 
Soz I will get me coat - welcome to forum m8
please ignore most of what I say - everybody else does
Oh and "Harrow" n welcome m8

North London eh???
 
Quite a lot of Chinese people live over that way
They arrive at Heathrow Airport, jump into a black cab and say to cabbie:
 
"Harrow taxi driver"
 
 
Soz I will get me coat - welcome to forum m8
please ignore most of what I say - everybody else does
Oh and "Harrow" n welcome m8

North London eh???
 
Quite a lot of Chinese people live over that way
They arrive at Heathrow Airport, jump into a black cab and say to cabbie:
 
"Harrow taxi driver"
 
 
Soz I will get me coat - welcome to forum m8
please ignore most of what I say - everybody else does
Oh and "Harrow" n welcome m8

Don't think that is same for all sites though, often my son may do full day & I just do half day
Young Guns - all players under 18 so kids can't be supervised by parents
 
Also Zero One own site was running some mid-week full days where parents could drop off kids
in morning and pick them up at up to about 6:00pm I think
 
So not all sites enforce a rule that all under 18's have to be fully supervised - just sign a waiver
so ya dad/mum can take you, fill out paperwork and leave you on your own to get lit up - kidding
 
rent a gun once and maybe a clear or 2-Tone G&G from Pro Airsoft or Zero One £100 to £140ish
but try it out first on a rental to see if you like it and if ya parents ok with you doing it
My missus was a bit freaky at first doing this shooting with son but I explained:
He is getting out n about, meeting new people, working as a team, getting exercise and better than
him just sitting up in his room playing online 24/7 raging n all that - he is still stroppy but thats kids

Well I suppose if you want to stir up a hornet's nest with a unique loadout:
 
get a T Shirt printed with the words on it:
 
 
YOUR LOADOUT
 
LOOKS GAY !!!!!
 
 
then see how fast you can run as you get lit up quicker than Blackpool Illuminations

But if you did message them and BBGuns4Less have given that reply themselves
then I think they have just seriously shot themselves in the foot - for real
 
shame coz they recently got their UKARA status and was kind of trying to improve
their range of stuff - if they have foolishly replied like that though to a customer
then I think they may future customers may become a very rare thing now....
 
dunno how all the message stuff works hence me just seeking clarification or if others
can see if it went to a forum section and others replied or if BBG4L really think this of
their customers.....
 
jeez

Ahem - back onto topic - it is a stupid feckin rule
 
yes site can come up with their own bollox
even well you deserve a kill for all the effort you put in - you was trying
so here is a kill for you being such a good little soldier - jjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
 
uhm not being funny - well yeah I am always taking da pi$$ but......
 
Oi m8 - adjust hop up or if ya that $hit
 
Point ya gun fecking upwards a bit and it might actually fall nearer the target
 
but here is a kill and a shiney star of the day for trying the hardest - ffs

HA HA PMSL LOL & ALL THAT
 
where is this place coz if I am running out of cash & bb's I can go there and just fvcking dry fire at everyone
 
FFS - rebounds/ricochet and now this bollox, I didn't get my UKARA to play with NERF or fvcking waterpistols
and Laser Quest though fun is best when ya half pi$$ed
(Airsoft n alcohol don't mix but funny when doing Laser Quest and ya m8 runs full on SPLAT !!! into wall)
 
Jeez - lets leave our guns at safe zone and go round doing
 
peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg
 
On second thoughts lets just play tag - your it instead but only if we have that spongey tarmac stuff used in playgrounds
 
OK - getting silly now, soz but c'mon - who runs this site, JBBG so their guns don't seem so $HIT at range - ok I stop now

HA HA PMSL LOL & ALL THAT
 
where is this place coz if I am running out of cash & bb's I can go there and just fvcking dry fire at everyone
 
FFS - rebounds/ricochet and now this bollox, I didn't get my UKARA to play with NERF or fvcking waterpistols
and Laser Quest though fun is best when ya half pi$$ed
(Airsoft n alcohol don't mix but funny when doing Laser Quest and ya m8 runs full on SPLAT !!! into wall)
 
Jeez - lets leave our guns at safe zone and go round doing
 
peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg
 
On second thoughts lets just play tag - your it instead but only if we have that spongey tarmac stuff used in playgrounds
 
OK - getting silly now, soz but c'mon - who runs this site, JBBG so their guns don't seem so $HIT at range - ok I stop now

jeez that must be worth a few bob to a nintendo or turtle collector
 
usa or jap coz uk don't get many good limited editions over here
often old cartridge consoles had different ends on carts so you either bought adapter
to run usa megadrive/genesis carts on UK consoles or took front of cartridge off
 
Ahh the good old days, plus good old consoles that don't need great big fans running
like crazy trying to prevent RROD or YLOD or BSOD like today's consoles

HA HA PMSL LOL & ALL THAT
 
where is this place coz if I am running out of cash & bb's I can go there and just fvcking dry fire at everyone
 
FFS - rebounds/ricochet and now this bollox, I didn't get my UKARA to play with NERF or fvcking waterpistols
and Laser Quest though fun is best when ya half pi$$ed
(Airsoft n alcohol don't mix but funny when doing Laser Quest and ya m8 runs full on SPLAT !!! into wall)
 
Jeez - lets leave our guns at safe zone and go round doing
 
peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg
 
On second thoughts lets just play tag - your it instead but only if we have that spongey tarmac stuff used in playgrounds
 
OK - getting silly now, soz but c'mon - who runs this site, JBBG so their guns don't seem so $HIT at range - ok I stop now

HA HA PMSL LOL & ALL THAT
 
where is this place coz if I am running out of cash & bb's I can go there and just fvcking dry fire at everyone
 
FFS - rebounds/ricochet and now this bollox, I didn't get my UKARA to play with NERF or fvcking waterpistols
and Laser Quest though fun is best when ya half pi$$ed
(Airsoft n alcohol don't mix but funny when doing Laser Quest and ya m8 runs full on SPLAT !!! into wall)
 
Jeez - lets leave our guns at safe zone and go round doing
 
peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg peeyaoooowwwwww peeyaoooowwwwww bangg bangg
 
On second thoughts lets just play tag - your it instead but only if we have that spongey tarmac stuff used in playgrounds
 
OK - getting silly now, soz but c'mon - who runs this site, JBBG so their guns don't seem so $HIT at range - ok I stop now

Alas there are horror stories with all suppliers - you only really find out how good they
are when things don't go according to plan and then you find out just how good ANY
company is when rectifying a problem/return
 
I bought quite a few bits from them - Dragon for example - which is $hit but that is gun
not BBGuns4Less fault, but have had a few issues when things didn't go perfectly
 
The 3 main cheapo "kids" or beginners sites:
 
JustBBGuns - absolute *!?@#&
 
BBGuns4Less - tiny bit better
 
JustBBGuns - probably best ones I have tried, everything is free shipping, fairly true
reviews but still have to watch what you buy coz there is some crap on there too
 
Alas any mystery box is gonna be mainly pants stuff imho - yes sometimes it might
be a lucky touch, but in general you ain't gonna get much if any decent stuff in there
(fvck me - how many targets or jammy bb's must these sellers buy per week ????)
 
Sorry your stuff broke so quickly, but they should be taking a better lesson in customer
service than that, you tried calling them - gonna be a pain to send stuff back and if so
you lose on return postage - no retailer has to refund you for return shipping - if lucky
some may send courier to collect at their cost but often the buyer has to pay returns
 
Often if not too bad I have decided to take the crap on the chin coz not worth hassle or
cost of postage - but in your case sounds like quite a bit is not living up to the description
or faulty goods - they will argue it was working but must of broke due to user error
soz - but you can see how they will answer......
 
Alas most of the reviews on these 3 sites are done by users who are kids or very little experience
hence:
 
Fires at 400fps - coke can test
awsome range - 20ft
the best gun I own - it is my first
incredible rate of fire - more than 3 a second - just
Just get it - so we can both get owned at skirmish sites
 
And yes I bought LOADS of FANTASTIC crap.....
 
Hopefully it wasn't a really big expensive amount of money on mystery box, it sounds
too good to be true and if you work in advertising you would know very often it is just
that - too goog to be true like most stuff in life - no free lunch etc....
 
Hope you get it sorted or at very least partially sorted - welocome to the:
 
"I've been stung" airsoft club - our membership is growing and growing

Wow - but before we jump to conclusions here.....
 
is that really BBGuns4Less reply or somebody else's comment ???
trying to suss out if it really is BBGuns or another poster saying that
 
normally they have this on their facebook:
 
 

But if you did message them and BBGuns4Less have given that reply themselves
then I think they have just seriously shot themselves in the foot - for real
 
shame coz they recently got their UKARA status and was kind of trying to improve
their range of stuff - if they have foolishly replied like that though to a customer
then I think they may future customers may become a very rare thing now....
 
dunno how all the message stuff works hence me just seeking clarification or if others
can see if it went to a forum section and others replied or if BBG4L really think this of
their customers.....
 
jeez

Finally caved and got an M4. I went for a G&G GR15 raider, used but in great condition. Came with a couple Hi-caps, battery, front grip and sights. Just need to sort out some pouch and some better mags. Which is the most reliable mags? I like the idea of mid-caps.
 

Well I got a ticket for zero woodland I think but kinda fell on its ar$e like I said
so went to epsom bunker instead as wasn't gonna drive like nearly 2hrs if nobody was going to zero
 
my usual TWA is on Saturday so may pop along for half day - £10
not sure if I'm going back to bunker just yet but free ticket from zero one gun I bought is valid for 6 months
(cost me more if fuel ffs but I will go)
 
other people were either working or couldn't get there - so kinda gave up the following Sunday to Sandpitt Dartford
and now we have 10th August upon us

if ya gonna do that rewire solder then fit a fixed stubby or full size and never worry about bat spec/size
fit ya lunch in there too if ya want, but fixed stock depends on your play style
 
if ya going for DMR with 140 etc - and SHS high torque motor I presume
then fixed full size would be option looking at gun/barrel length & MED
 
if cqb like Fire Hawk stubby is ideal setup for me, just now n then stubby is a bit short but nothing major
when out in woods trying to take longer shots but hey I live with it as like I can grab any battery & not worry
 
sod it if ain't as nice as VS-02 stock, far more practical for me but to each their own
yeah if you gonna unsolder mosfet module then you could look at changing stock perhaps
 
Again it is all up to YOU - jeez I spent too much on this, gonna sign off coz I have done nothing for last few hours
best of luck
 
S D

Something like that on a tshirt i can see my self in that

Well I suppose if you want to stir up a hornet's nest with a unique loadout:
 
get a T Shirt printed with the words on it:
 
 
YOUR LOADOUT
 
LOOKS GAY !!!!!
 
 
then see how fast you can run as you get lit up quicker than Blackpool Illuminations

I run these: http://www.componentshop.co.uk/7-4v-1300mah-25c-continuous-discharge-101mm-long.html
 
I have D-Boys stock tubes on my guns (cheap!!) and they fit fine They stick out a bit, but not a probpem once the stock is on - I just can't collapse it all the way in, but one notch out is fine
 

 

yeah thought at first with title it was lipo charge bag too
don't use them but I always keep a very very regular close eye on them charging on a workshop table
 
a few years off a colostomy bag hopefully....
 
dunno about a great big battery though, might be wise to consider 2 x decent 2200mah lipo's
can your gun or rather you happy to pump 11.1v through her all time
could get a 9.9v LiFe battery - or say:
 
1 x 11.1v 2200mah
1 x 9.9v Life battery
 
one battery may last a full day but that is what you have half time or lunch for
plus all eggs in one basket - bit heavy and if it goes tit$ up you lost ya only battery
no other backup so to speak
 
yes 2 batteries may cost a little more than 1 great big mother battery
ergh but you got bag cost to add to big mother battery too
 
or say sod it, loads of gaffa/duct tape and nick ya car battery just going nuts full on mental
keep a spare motor handy if doing this daft idea of mine - no don't do this last bit

I'm still a stalwart fan of NiMh because they're cheap as chips and I like what I know.
 
Any 8.4v NiMh battery pack of the right size will pretty much be as good as any other in my experience, so if you do go that way, just visit component-shop and get some from there.
 
If you want to go LiPo (which I'd recommend because it's the future and I just refuse to catch up), then I have no further guidance for you.