Sitting Duck

sorry but the guy he comes up behind Black Death "taps him on shoulder"....... - never mind bang your dead that to me is knife kill in effect - CONTACT WAS MADE !!! to me in my book Black Death is brown bread - don't matter in my book knife hand dildo or BB - contact was made The post itself iself is going on about just saying from distance BANG and NO CONTACT - that is what I say no kill Black Death may prefer to shot but me myself would accept that kill by tap on shoulder the only problem is if in heat of them moment would being pumped up etc... would I calmly accept it immediately hopefully but like I have said in the heat of battle we all may not always 101% do the right thing straight away we can only try to play fair BTW - you either have to be really brave or really stupid to try & sneak up on Black Death for a Bang or Melee kill Personally I would fire a shot or two & RUN - coz I ain't hanging around if I miss

Wow - welcome to Airsoft PhD physics & chemistry for trigger happy students Think many things have a bit ore ooomphhh at first - getting really techy here with the terms... When Batteries come straight off of charge they often have a bit more voltage in them for a very short time.... Putting a test meter on a 9.9v life straight after taking it off charge was showing nearer 11v than 10v But it was steadily decreasing on the meter by 0.01v and seemed to settle at about 10.08v so then I said forget the observations and poxy study test crap - lets start shooting ffs

End of the day it all depends on what will fit in there as well 8.4v 9.6v 7.4v LiPo is your 3 best options - but also what size compartment get a nice size capacity but check very carefully it will fit don't push it though and get one that is at max size - they can be out in size spec no point having a brilliant battery if your can't shut the lid up properly check size - some make of 1600mah are bigger than other makes and of course in "theory" the 9.6v is gonna be bigger than 8.4v as it has another cell but then there are medium and LARGE cell sizes too Oh what fun - so get a tape measure or a digital caliper vernier gauge to measure it all out what battery you got and what might fit - but don't go too mad like I said most likely your battery is up the front handguard, or if crane nunchuck stock then choice is a little limited fit a full size fixed stock and shove a car battery in there - well not quite but you have loads more room

Well I have a Xcortech at home and they are coming same speed as other 0.20gs. Ultrasonic black, Bulldog white & black & white bio's, some SRC & ICS bb's I got with guns and Elite Force from Landwarrior The bubble is weird and maybe on purpose or some batches were more crap than others who knows what $hit they source from and brand FANTASTIC Bull$hit just cracked open a black BullDog 0.20 and couldn't see bubble deffo BullDog out of a new jar of Black Bull$hit BB's Bio's - think they all used up now mixed with others in my garden cracked open a white BB but can't be 101% sure it was bulldog but will check later with one fresh from White Bull$hit jar Update - for anyone that cares - no airbubble in the white Bull$hit 0.20g I got out of the jar maybe it was a bad nasty batch of crap - maybe it is first thing to check if your bb's are inconsistent or all over the place - hmm might crack a fireball .25g ovpen coz I have doubts about those sods All the Busll$hit's I have got in last 3 months from either JBBG or BBG4Less I think if they were crap I would be ripping that greedy chubby bastid to bits

LOL - that BANG Glock think I may get one of those bad boys I mean if a sniper had that as secondary and called bang I would deffo take the hit Ya gotta take a hit from that - unless ya female coz they just don't have sense of humour

Wow - but I think they are not that bad certainly better than fireball .25g's I got BullDog 0.20g's in white - they don't seem to be awful haven't jammed gun yet In fact we was doing some traget practice today at about 70ft and was quite pleased with the groupings using Bull$hit BB's maybe the air bubble is coz they using heavier material like say .25 or .30 but air bubble reduces weight to 0.20g - dunno not a expert far from it but amazed that if that air bubble is not 101% centered then weight/mass would be off-center and spinning all over the place - but they seem quite accurate to me If they were total $hit - trust me I would be slating them left right n center coz I still want my mags n choccy n key rings that the fat bastid owes me

Depends on shipping I have used Bull$hit - ergh I mean BullDog which are not that bad Don't ffs get fireball - jeez bought some .25g's to get better accuracy - mother I got loads of jimmy's jimmy's is what i call ones that trickle out @ 150fps then 4 good ones and then jimmy - pile of crap Got some elite force - seem bit better than bulldogs but as always buy a small amount of any bb's to test in your own gun - some guns have a tighter bore barrel and be really picky on bb's Hence I suppose some will say this make is good and others with tighter bore will say nope they are crap They seem good but only time will tell how they work in your own gun - think they are about right price for a decent bit of ammo - but price alone is not always a good guide I have found Oh and just in case you get some free bb's in with gun - they are not to be used they go in crappy springers or in the bin - unless you like unblocking your nice new gun Happy shooting

Well sorry but that is a bit out of order - one rule for one and forget about it for others I mean if I was a parent - well yeah I am, but if I had a little 10yr old weakling kid I would like to think that the site does operate its safety policies correctly ffs poor little timmy may get shot at 400+ at close/mid range and get $hit shot out of him by somebody that the site failed to check all guns were within the limits Sorry but in my book that is b0ll0cks - I mean grown ups yeah lets not always go mental with red tape coz we are men and expect to get hit a bit maybe But ffs - That parent signed a consent form - so why the f*ck the site not carrying out its duties to ensure safety of kids - and we are talking about children - with a vast range - my son said some of them deffo looked older than 18 - but I said well they could be students and I got served in pubs when I was his age coz at 14 I never had a problem looking older than I was - I looked like 70 now though But some of them kids looked like little pups who fall over if the got shot with a nerf gun Sorry but I expect and hope all skirmishes to carry out the same safety checks and regulations as they should do for all games - whatever the age range of players some of the kids were hiring G&G's and there was pro looking snipers and stuff there too

Slightly off topic - but my son went to another site and not 1 gun was chrono'd ok It was kids game match but ffs - how the hell did they know nobody was running hot guns he said a fair amount were jbbg crap but there were some decent taiwan guns there My local one they chrono in morning mark guns and after lunch chrono any new people turning up to play

I understood DMR as a beefy AEG - locked only to single shot semi auto only can have increased fps to assist with long range shots and perhaps long barrel for accuracy to All depend on the site - yes if it is locked to single shot only but running with Lipo 11.1v and in the hands of a good player with good trigger finger that can be devastating or deffo a big advantage This is very true if most stuff is restricted to single shot only in close range stuff but the DMR should have MED But another problem is that a beefed up M4 or M16 DMR firing at 420fps looks identical of course to a 345 one so out on the field how the hell do you know if you got shot by a in effect a hot M4 that they used at close range Yes good for long range shots maybe but doubt if everybody will be informed on who has DMR on enemy team so unless the marshal is paying very close attention many will not know if DMR guns are being used at close distance Once again if site allows DMR's up to or just over 400fps the rest of players rely on that owner using it fairly for medium and long distance shots that perhaps normal AEG's just can't quite make And maybe the DMR users not purposely engage enemy in close range Suppose it is all about trust, honesty and playing fair in the end

Shame Tactical WarFare lost Anerley urban site Only got a woodland one now but think: £20 day walk on £10 half-day walk on - some places don't do half day walk ons £20 gun hire mask etc... - they do not do half day hire though so for me half day @ £10 is fine - getting too old for this $hit and others wishing to rent etc... £40 + hot dog or something for lunch - dunno I just go half day usually think they pick you up from a nearby tram stop if you ask nicely & keep them informed no mega a$$ briefings run by players for players they say and good bunch of regulars I found too - even though they shoot my A$$ to bits

You are alright in my book sniper could have done many things or nothing and still been alive you feel a little uneasy about this situation but we all have to make instant decisions even the most honest players may have failed to call a soft hit from enemy crap gun as they sprint through shrubs etc... - feeling bushes and branches but not always a light tap from a bb whilst doing so I said about sniper could of shot from a "safer" range near the end of MED as we all know in real life in the heat of moment all of us have fired at closer distance than we should of $hit happens - and it wrong to say this should of happened or that - in a split second we have to make a decision - if we call a hit we can't think ergh no wait that might be a rebound shot I know in paintball I called myself out a few times and saw no proper mark on me - could that be a drop from paintball hitting wall - too late I called it I know hand on heart I have not always called a hit - I looked round and didn't see anyone at first then they yell at me - ok soz good shot but I do try my best to play fair Bet next week the boot is on the other foot and you end up in a similar situation - it happens You both have some integrity - he took hit and you feel a little uneasy more players like you two is what sport needs Bet you next time he will just shoot you in the ar$e at 25m though

Sitting Duck you seem to be implying the sniper should have taken a shot from within the MED with "try" and "safer". The sniper did the most reasonable thing he could have done in that situation while trying to take the kill.. it is incredibly hard to follow someone or track them without them realising you're there especially in woodland.. he would only have gotten a couple steps before the OP realised he was there And the analogy to the full auto and guy jumping out is more what the OP did, he stopped thought, hmm this isn't in the MED so I don't technically have to take this and then challenged the sniper. He was in his rights to do so but still not a sporting move I was being honest and playing in a real airsoft field - and like I said you can't tell me every sniper shot is the correct side of the range and listing other examples - the shot will hurst less as range increases But we will never know how hidden the sniper's original position was and for how far he could of tracked him for nor will we know if sniper was 360fps of 480fps But the sniper COULD have done numerous things and NOT broke cover Have said numerous times fair play to sniper for taking hit and also maybe sniper played the wrong move BUT - above all else I give credit to OP - he feels it maybe a too easy kill, maybe they should of both took hits BUT the OP came on here and opened up up about and maybe it wasn't a great kill feeling or whatever BUT - last but I think, I congratulate both sniper for taking hit & OP for having being honest to admit to this easy kill many people would of just said - tough $hit and not given it a second thought Sniper could of done nothing, carried pistol, took a shot at a further range - loads of options he broke cover - c'mon most people only take hits when they are just that and if they don't you full auto them until they do 2 players and think they both did well like I said - this stuff happens all the time as long as it wasn't a massive turning point inthe game BIG DEAL - it happened, world cup soon - you gonna tell me every goal is gonna be onside or no hand of god again or no diving

OK this is my final say and just repeating the final quote: sniper should of tracked the guy and took shot nearer range he chose to snipe so should " try " and stick to the sniper guidelines maybe they both could of said ok we both dead but sniper could have got kill and still been alive sniper made the most mistakes - the OP did not but was fornuate that sniper played within rules I'm sure many people have been hit at half the sniper distance Like when you on full auto and enemy jumps out at you - do we always say: Hang on a sec m8 - I'm still on auto lmk switch to semi or times when your gun starts to shott 2 or 3 bb's burst on semi and you haven't got mosfet in there sniper should have tracked op and got a "safe" or "safer" kill near the enagagment limit if op dissappeared behind cover before he can take shot - $hit happens no more OP did nothing wrong - sniper made mistakes in my book but played fair so credit to sniper for that - just next time he won't break cover to say bang with no secondary etc...

OK my final final say.... sniper = dumb a$$ - he saw you and what he SHOULD of done: let you pass, and when you was kind of near the distance THEN shot the hell out of you I mean if you was say 5m - no shot but track you and at say close to 25m then take a shot maybe (can't tell me every sniper triple checks each target is at the correct distance when they pull trigger) sniper made mistakes and like all mistakes he will learn from this possible easy kill he had on you

Don't like bang rule - we are using bb's and is a combat sport ffs next time I run out of ammo can I just go bang at somebody 30m away no chance they would say ah but this is long range finger I'm using a hit is a hit - proper contact bb or knife light sabre dildo or whatever within the rules or guidelines - stupid or not but those rules are there

Let us get one thing clear The reason why the sniper can have 450-500fps sniper is because: Single shot AND min engage distance otherwise lets just go nuts with 450+ fully auto at point blank range - screw the chrono and call an ambulance now There are rules - some are common sense some don't make much sense and times when people don't always play by them BUT there are rules and guidelines which are stated at the start - don't like them don't play Sniper must be thinking I should of had secondary or crap I was I brought my AEG instead of this But think it was fair play and nothing really bad - just $hit happens & move on I mean in real life If I got shot in my little toe with a £10 springer pistol - don't think I would be fatally wounded but a hit is a hit so to speak so we play and abide by rules - silly or not

I think you was lucky he didn't charge at ya with dual wielding dildo's and if he was using a jbbg sniper I doubt if he would of made 10m if he took the shot fair play to all I say

Hmmmm - he should kept his mouth shut in the end I suppose If you had not have shot him - one of your team mates would of Fair play to bloke knowing engagement distance etc... But should of kep down, alerted one of his team or just stayed in cover mouth shut shouting out has just blown his cover so even if he shot you at close range his position was given maybe so he has learnt today: keep mouth shut keep hidden carry secondary if sniping Understand also it was a too easy kill and in real life he would of just blown ya brains out but every game has moments like this - was it a direct hit, rebound, did that $hit respawn off a dead team mate Oi we shot each other - so you must be dead too.... you can't put head through gap but can be shot through it - just don't get that one sometimes ?? and probably dozens more examples we could all list Think credit to both of ya - him for taking hit & you for feeling a little uneasy about the kill $hit happens - but wish more people would play fair coz it is only a game ffs

Yup deffo gonna try the SandPit in Dartford soon - looks like a real pro place but no 2-tone or clear guns But it does look like a real serious place and about 40 mins from me

The wife really get the hump with me then - bad enough getting my Toy Guns and myself covered in mud all through house etc... She would not be happy if got her " toy " damaged or covered in mud as well Damn - just had a really good sick idea - put a LiPo in there - that would cheer her up (actually probably kill her but at least she would have smile on her face)

True Mosfet seems to be wired to trigger and can use a lower switch voltage to the Mosfet and then the 8.6v to motor etc..... Mosfets are very very fast acting electronic switches and a massive improvement over the old mechanical relays Sorry for very rough electronics lesson - but is in effect what they are and have built some crude mosfet switching circuits with voltage regulators etc... for some odd projects I have done As i said looking on some other forums these plug n play ones are not the exact same same as the top of the range ones BUT - mainly bought coz might be going to another site and they run ammo limit and low to mid cap mags only What with being noobish to say the least and very trigger happy at times..... It might come in handy on sites that limit ammo - will be fun to see what happens These plug n play ones - well there might be a very very very slight delay - milli-seconds if that unless the unit is faulty or crap I can't see it improving response time coz it has to switch another circuit and splitting hairs has more wire I would of thought However - the ones that you wire in to the trigger switch should give you a faster response But taking it apart and soldering is not for everybody so lets see how the plug n play one goes I very much doubt it has a fantasitic over-run protection as the higher end mosfets and all their features... but they can give you option to limit or customise the burst - some have battery warnings and some other bells n whistles too Nearly bought the Gate one but that was £50 and trigger wire install to get full effect Ended up getting 2 cheapo Mosfets for £51 from Hong Kong - delivered in a week - wow Avocado II one is about £29 with a few more features - see ebay Or may get Gate later if and when I get to do a custom rebuild - rewire a SRC Dragon from front wire to rear wire etc.... Also Gates uses deans connector but no big deal if I am rewiring front to rear battery etc.... (Jeez Gate mosfet would be getting close to what the friggin gun cost me - hmmmm will see how cheapo one performs)

Just got a Cyber Gun or Swiss Arms Burst Control Mosfet Similar to Avocado Burst or look for the Avocado Burst II or 2 Mosfet - supposed to be an improved model more features and all that but anyway my cheapo mosfet: 2 to 30 shot Mini Tamiya Male & Female - Plug n Play or plug & shoot I suppose..... 8.4v 9.6v NiMh & 7.4v 1`1.1v LiPo (suppose 9.9v LiFe would work - but dunno if 9.6v or 11.1v setting would be right) Set power setting, then hold down trigger until you hear beep eg: 4 round burst + 1 that you hold down = 5 4 trigger pulls plus one more that you hold down until you hear beep again That is it - 4 round burst fire set on a Full Auto Can change or disable on the field - no removal required says also can be removed and will still remember burst programming up to 15 round burst over 15 and you will have to re do it - no biggy but handy if swapping guns over @ halftime (or main weapon goes faulty - easy to install in backup weapon if you have one) When using this in burst - must hold down trigger for all 4 shots (it ain't like COD - 1 tap pull = 3 burst fire) if you don't and release trigger halfway through cycle and fire again it don't work properly so get used to holding down trigger for full cycle/burst then fire burst again etc..... (not sure but latest Avocado might let you just tap it and it bursts away on its own - but don't quote me) looks idiot proof - well I fitted it, but only just got it so will try it out this weekend n see Reading up though a TRUE MOSFET is normally wired into trigger switch like the Gate merf 3.2 but they ain't cheap, and just wanted to try out a new gimmick without soldering

Thought this was weather warning coz did read Saturday could be some strange stuff in some places (which could be confusing if playing - not knowing if was hit properly or not) welcome anyway - whatever the weather and yup - airsoft is a bit different to clay or game hunting, your targets shoot back - the sneaky bastids (not seen a deer carry a AK47 or rabbit returning fire - did see a psycho looking squirrel though last week)