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More practical, but no way near cool looking enough to sell well. Maybe you'll disagree, but to me it does look like someone's just tried to glue another M4/M16 barrel down there.

Welcome to the forums. Hey for £30 you could have done worse, but do try to have a plan B in mind for when you go in case it doesn't make it through the day or is totally outclassed (which isn't unlikely, unfortunately). Renting is usually about £15-25 more - which I realise seems like quite a bit - but when you've paid the £20 walk-on fee and you're not having much fun because shits broken then you could be kicking yourself.

Can you imagine how horrible one would be to use? Assuming it's CO2 or green gas as spring is out of the question, but it would just be hideously impractical (beyond the usual levels of impractically we're used to in airsoft, that is). I mean there is a reason why the first was called the KAC Masterkey, because it was only any good for blowing out the locks on doors. The M26 style might be nice, but I'd be damned if that wasn't pretty impractical (again, even by our standards) too. Cool idea, but I can see why no one is in a hurry to make one.

Light a fire in a bin and throw some bricks; they'll bring a selection right to you.

Try Firesupport or Action Air UK.

Guarder black or propane.

Fairly sure some sites won't allow you to wear open glasses if youre under 18 though. May be worth checking first in case you've got to go with goggles. The most foolproof option is - drumroll please - yes, you guessed it!... To just get out there and rent your kit.

Mask and headgear will be provided. Go down and play and then report back

Tigher barrel, more powerful gas, higher output valves, better rocket/floating valve, better hop up rubber, gas routers. Getting up to 350 with TM can be done if you're willing to fork out, but why bother? FPS matters so little with pistols. Pretty much all TM pistols will handle green gas no problem. I use Guarder power-up in mine and have never had an issue. TM win frequently with their models because they know their limits (tolorances, if you will) and pick their materials carefully. They use plastic because they know people ultimatey turn to them for performance. If you want it to then be all metal then set £200 aside for aftermarketarts and do it yourself, but many don't feel the need because they just work that well. Also, "stronger spring"?

The TM G18c is known to be about 1mm thicker than its clones and real steel counterpart. Some people have reported being able to adjust many of the TM fibre sights to fit WE, so if you have a set of files then I'd say it's fair game.

I've seen a lot of talk about the functionality of this Mk23 recently. May have to pick one up at some point. I assume you're using the TM one as well? Just bought that used TM M9 with Zeke full body kit off Zeroin's classifieds section. Ordered a set of English walnut grips too. I love it when a plan comes together:

For storage 1-2 is fine. I fill mine until they start spluttering but good practice is to do that once from empty and then remember how long it took so that you don't overfill and waste gas in the future. Generally this will be between 5 and 8 seconds, but all mags vary. Refilling as you go for is totally fine as well, but you'll likely waste a little bit of gas when you overfill it.

I would understand the line of reasoning if he was just rude or just owning guns below the legal requirement or just ignorant of the responsibilities of his own partnership or just trying to recreate a thread to avoid drama in another, but it was all of the above. Entirely beyond saving when one is so confrontational, selfserving, ignorant of the law and totally missing the point of airsoft when trying to sell his channel and his sponsor's site to us like we're a flock of sheep. Again, generally I put up with those - live and let live, but if you go back you can see this was a genuine query about prices that went bad because someone just wanted us to eat up his coupon code without asking questions. I admire your wanting to let everyone coexist, but some people are - for whatever reason - just not quite ready to do that.

http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/26479-ban-me/ Christ. He took this one bad. Deleted his profile info, avatar and everything. RIP EpicLlama - saviour of £18 Abbey and overpriced 2-tones.

He's just now changed his profile. When I checked it earlier it had the DOB as 1999 and the age as 15. He cares little for the hobby, just his own Youtube channel and this fictional/fraudulent partnership with another cookiecutter JBBG retailer.

May I also add that not at a single point up until now did I ever critisise your character - just the product that you were - by extension - selling. A simple answer could really have saved you all this trouble. How charming. You are aware that Hef is making reference to the fact that UK law dictates no one under the age of 18 may own nor purchase any airsoft gun - 2-tone or otherwise, right? You're the sort of person that could get this banned for all of us and yet you're stooped in ignorance to the point that you'd call him the 'asshole'.

Old thread: http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/26476-put-in-wrong-place-delete/ Did you really just ask to have the old thread deleted because you didn't like what was said in it? That's low man. Edit: I can go a little lower by posting the PM that you sent me after I asked why the bottles of gas are - at almost £18 a pop - twice as much as many other retailers: I'll say what I said again in the last thread: Your conduct is unbecoming of someone who's meant to be representing a shop front, and has alone convinced me to never want to shop at that link. I sincerely hope that others give an additional bit of thought towarda buying from there too given how you think that yoy can simply hold this community's members to randsom in the name of continuing the longevity of your own partnership. Which, may I add, is slightly unsettling in itself given that the chap on your Youtube channel (I presume is you) is only 15-16 years of age and so is surely unable to even purchase these products for himself.

This is why sites should really chrono on the weight you're going to use and then calculate the energy in Joules, rather than what some do and give you some .2s to put through the chrono. I suppse that sets up a further need to trust people aren't saying they're using .2s when they're chronoing with .28s. I guess a set of scales would fix that but it's a lot of effort to go to.

Edits after fact checking: KS is allegedly a rebrand of JG (who in turn have many of their parts used by other manufacturers manufacturers - most notably Echo 1). So the answer is that they have no website as they're not strictly a manufacturer. Look up JG if you want to see their products.

Quite right. GBB, be it through Daytona, PolarStar or any other is the way to go. I've had success with my setup, but it cost me nearly as much as HPA when all was said and done, and was a proper PITA for months. M4s are easy to come by and rather adaptable. Just do it right and don't slap a cheapo scope onto a 10" and call it a DMR because you'll look a bit of a nonce. Any excuse to post: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img909/4519/A8PaPr.jpg

Good post. Luka, no one is trying to unfairly deny you the pleasures of going out and buying your own gun, but you must understand what a legal knifedge this hobby sits on, and how careful we must be to ensure its longevity for all. Every time someone goes out and bends the rules we open ourselves up to losing a very enjoyable past-time, and we certainly wouldn't be the first country to have so. As I said before, most rental equipment is going to be as good - if not better- than anything you could afford to buy right now, so it's not too bad. Get out and play first. The rest will fall into place.

I'm thinking it's illegal for you to buy one if you're under 18.

Yep, anything full-face (I.e ypur eyes and mouth covered) All sites that provide rental equipment will also allow you to rent a full face mask too. If you're over 18 then you only have to cover your eyes (should you wish).

Yes, it's usual with TM mags to get a little coming out at the top as you fill it. My recommendation would he to hold the mag lower down (or wear gloves) to avoid the risk of frostbite. The rest is as simple as Baz says - tiny bit of gas for storage (to keep a seal and stop the o-rings drying out, and fully gassed - 5-8 seconds filling - for shooting. Also, they're magazines; not clips!

Basically it's another word for a day of airsoft at a site.