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It's the black one you've be looking at for the MWS. Both work, but evidence seems to suggest the black one holds adjustment better. For reference, taken from the document you were linked in the MWS thread yesterday (the fact you reference that very section in your post in the MWS thread has me somewhat baffled by the question being here): 'FPS Moderation Best bet is an NPAS (allows the user to control the amount of gas that goes to propelling the BB, therefore controlling FPS). There’s one silver WE version that also fits the MWS and a black MWS version. They both fit in the MWS but the black one holds it’s adjustment better. The silver WE one needs some fettling with wet+dry paper to prevent sticking in the TM nozzle.' As a sidenote, you really don't have to create a new thread everytime you ask a question in the MWS thread and don't get an answer within 15 minutes. You don't have to reply with a justification, I get it, new toy and want everything to be perfect, must order everything possible which could resolve any possible issue as soon as possible. We've all been there, but cool your jets and take the time to read the information you already have. Your best chance of getting answers from folks who know what they're talking about in regard to the MWS is in the MWS thread, just be patient. And yes, I answered it here rather in the MWS thread so I could type this paragraph out before the entirety of the 'Gas Guns' section is new threads asking about the various MWS issues and queries.

I like my words how I like my M4 mags hanging out of a pistol, big and too hard for some folks to wrap their head around.* *I said this because I thought it was 'funny'... because as my initial post would suggest, I don't actually like M4 mags hanging out of pistols. Though I do think the MP5 adapter in the AAP doesn't look half bad, possibly helped by the fact it isn't a 'real gun'... and the fact it isn't plugged in. mUh ImmErsIOn.

It ultimately down to why people choose to play the game, for some it's realism... which you can justify in any manner of ways. And for some it's simply a sport where, as Skara says, they want what they consider to be the most effective means of running their platform of choice. Much the same as folks running around in kilos of gear versus someone with 7 mags in a paintball style belt, they have the same function, 'cool points' very much being subjective. I tend to try things out before passing judgement, so I picked up one of the Primary adapters for my Hicapa. The fact you can tune the trigger without having to accomodate for inconsistency is ace, I haven't had a chance to skirmish it (and likely won't, for other reasons) it just felt very 'not me' and that's ultimately that was the thing I couldn't get past. I imagine the hose could get in the way if you're doing acrobatics around a CQB site but for all the regular movements you'd make while playing it's not very restrictive. Having a line into an AR was a whole different story, transitions felt much less comfortable... but that's another topic for another time. As a note which is more in line with the topic, in terms of HPA efficiency running taps in a GBB is significantly less efficient than running an engine. Superfluous information I have no doubt, but there it is 🤷‍♂️.

I'll have a dig around and see what I can find. Granted options for convenient posting are somewhat limited at present. Aye, I hadn't realised how much HPA stuff I'd managed to accumilate until I came to listing it all up. I imagine it'll very much be a case of keeping my eye on the classfieds on the off chance something that takes my fancy pops up.

In that case, be expecting an email from me in the not too distant future haha! I've landed on selling the lot, having just got it all out to take photos I'm already looking forward to the amount of space I'm going to save. Don't suppose you know anything about whether I can/can't ship CO2 canisters (I have 9 33g which are unused, ideally they'd go with the stock but I'm not sure if I can ship them... granted I haven't actually bothered looking yet)? I may pick up a cheapish AEG at some point as a back up but having an MTW plus Wraith stock sat as a back up is just far too much money tied up in something that will sit and gather dust for the most part. Haha, I imagine it's to preserve the action but HPA tapping GBBRs is something that I personally find a bit daft. Obviously I'm not against HPA in any way but I prefer my HPA RIFs and my GBBR RIF seperate!

Appreciate all the thoughts, it's been useful to hear other folks thinking aloud. I've gone through all the pro's and con's and figured out what it is I want out of the hobby from this point forward and have decided to hang up the tanks, lines, regulators and scuba tanks in favour of GBBRs. I think I'm just in a very different place with the hobby from where I was way back when, when HPA was the logical choice. I feel I've given it enough thought and consideration at this point and I keep landing on the same answer, and it's one I'm happy with. Thanks again for the input folks! P.S. @Davegolf Y'all got any of those nubs left? 😅

We so often end up in a situations where we justify luxury spending that 'because I want it' doesn't feel like enough. My spending pattern is definitely more 'see something I want/like, can I afford it?' versus 'I have x amount of spare money, what can I spend it on'. If you've found something that takes your fancy that's ace, but don't force it would be my advice. With any luck the money isn't going anywhere, just enjoy the process of trawling through stuff knowing the funds are there if something catches your fancy 🤷‍♂️. I've definitely fallen into the trap throughout the various lockdowns and tier changes of spending money on crap I don't need to try and cheer myself up a bit, the way you've prefaced this would imply you don't get the opportunity. Sounds like you've earned that money, and congratulations on the promotion... now make sure you make the most of it .

Definitely a pretty unique situation (though I can't relate to the whole 'needing partners permission thing'), I dare say that the fact you have permission takes half the fun out of it. But with that aside, perhaps you've reached the chosen land that so few of us ever reach, you're simply happy with what you have and don't feel like you need anything else. Which leads to the question of am I actually just content with what I have, or have I grown bored of that side of the hobby... escalating to is the hobby still for me. Lockdown and the inability to play has my brain doing an extremely irritating dance of trying to figure out what it is I actually want out of my RIFs, if you're truly just at a point where you're content I envy you to no end!

Aye, another tick in the box of 'is this extra faff worth it'. Granted the theme at this point is AEGs make life easier... if you have the inclination to learn/figure out the maintenance routines and/or preferences when it comes to upgrades and the like. Aye, I'll break them down below: Forged SBR (10", 10.3" outer barrel, 285mm inner barrel) which is my main squeeze for outdoors (or is intended to be once we can actually play again). Billet SBR (10" rail, 7"outer barrel, 200mm inner barrel, 33g CO2 stock, tracer/suppressor) was going to be the main CQB squeeze... my Hicapa changed that plan. It's since been returned to 'stock'. Billet SBR Limited Edition, never did anything with it because I couldn't bring myself to mess around with a 1 of 1 limited edition in the end. I do, I have a TM G19 and TM G17 in use interchangably as back ups. Though I favour the G19 for the most part. I also picked up a fancy Hicapa which is now my CQB RIF of choice, as much as it will incurr the 'wrath of the elite' I do have a Primary adapter for it. Given where I live I haven't been able to play a CQB game for months, so haven't been able to try it out yet. I imagine I'll pick up some more Hicapa mags at some point to see how it is if ditching the line. The benefit of HPA with a Capa seems great though, the consistency means you can tune them really tight without having to worry about inconsistency from gas... and also much like everything else, now I'm invested in HPA I find it hard to not use it for everything. Because otherwise what was the point in the investment 🤷‍♂️. If I decide to ditch the HPA I imagine I'll have a general rejig of things, likely just tweaking the leaf spring to make it less picky on the pressure it likes.

Aye, I've always felt HPA is a bit soulless (excluding the Tippmans with the 'recoil'). Largely down to the fact they're very quiet, which to many is a selling point, I guess that's a personal thing on where your 'fun' from shooting a RIF comes from. For some I'm sure it's the number of 'kills' a RIF gets, for some it's the feedback from the RIF. Hell for some I imagine it's getting through a day without a RIF entirely shitting itself and being functional throughout, which was one of big draws to HPA for me way back when I started with it. Don't get me wrong, I like RIFs, but they're not a huge part of the hobby for me. Getting out, running around, admiring other folks kit etc are all parts I enjoy more than messing around with RIFs when not playing. Having a reliable RIF which is easy to maintain is right at the top of my list for something I look for in a RIF, and in my eyes HPA is hard to beat in that regard. Which is why I've been asking myself this question over and over for a while, to the point I figured I'd open it up to others thoughts. I'd say I'm pretty much at a point where I'm jumping between: 1) Sell up my MTWs and HPA stuff, pick up an MWS and mags... generally downsize the amount of investment I have within the sport. 2) Sit tight where I am, but sell 2 of the 3 MTWs I currently have because no one really needs 3 MTWs. Continue trying to find the ideal solution for running HPA, which loosely speaking means continuing to throw money at it until I land in a happy place... or wind up here once more. I guess having worked through it, I feel like I'm at a cross roads where dispite the investment so far I don't feel like I've landed where I want to be. So now I'm trying to figure out if it's worth continuing going deeper, or tap out now.

Aye, suffice to say CO2 canisters in the stock is not an efficient way of testing out different barrels, buckings and nubs when it comes to the MTW haha. Almost as expected I'm not sure this thread is helping me unravel my brain much, but I do keep looking at the HAO wesbite and I can't seem to stop. Is it boredom, or is it a sign? Maybe we'll never know... I hate this hobby at times, all this lockdown stuff has given me far too much time to overthink things 🤷‍♂️. Granted it very much seems to be causing 1 of 3 things, folks selling a bunch of things to buy a bunch of new shinies, folks selling up entirely, or folks leaving things as they are/tinkering a bit and just waiting and paying very little attention to the hobby till we can play again. I think I've gone through/been tempted by all 3 at this point.

Aye, I tend to run mine (when running tank/link with the B5) 3/4 in, it varies slightly depending on how much grief my shoulder/wrist is giving me. Unfortunately I can't modify the B5 in the same way I've modified a MOE stock because of how the buttpad fixes to the stock, granted I doubt that'd help much if I could running 33g canisters just limits you on the variety of positions available to use. Outside of that it seems great, just pricey to setup. Nothing worse than screwing a fresh cartridge in to find out something isn't right in the hop chamber and essentially have to waste an entire £4 canister (price will vary based on what you can find I imagine). Aye, I'm very much a semi shooter (which is great because it seemingly means you circumvent a lot of the inherant issues various forms of propulsion present)... and a bag of 3000 BBs lasts me an age 😅. I imagine the vast majority of views to the YouTube link on your AK ad are mine 😂!

That glorious moment when 'Submit Reply' happens at almost the exact same time eh? I guess to expand a little on the Wolverine CO2 stock, I have the 33g version. Everything about it seemed like a slam dunk for what I was looking for, but it limits you to the last two stops on a 6-point buffer tube (assuming you want the canister covered). If I want to use my preferred stock (the smaller B5 Systems stock, I forget the proper name) it could only be used full extended. I'm aware length of pull isn't something many care too much about, in the grand scheme of things it's much less of a consideration when it comes to airsoft, but when you've got a bad back and a knackered shoulder it becomes much more of a consideration! Interesting that we seem to be in such similar places, where it seems like we're looking for much the same thing... with sound being a big consideration (your being 'as quiet as possible' and mine being 'doesn't sound like a 'sewing machine'). Granted if I had an ounce of ability/willingness to learn AEGs they'd likely be much more of an option. I'm very comfortable with teching HPA stuff (because it's generally very easy), and I was really happy with how easy the MWS is to work on... despite how scary that trigger box might look it's all very simple if you take your time.

The element you've hinted at is one of the larger reasons, namely the sheer amount of stuff you need to take with you for a game. I need the HPA tanks (varies based on the site/format of the games), batteries (because assuming you've not running a mechanical system you still need batteries) and then regular gas for pistols. The idea of just needing a few bottles of varying gas and I'm set is very appealing... and freeing up that space in the house. Airsoft tat takes up a bunch of storage room, HPA equipment ramps that up even more. That aside, not having to run a backpack/getting rid of the line was freeing while I was using my SRS. I wouldn't ever put it down as a huge con when playing, because I tend to agree that you don't tend to notice it all that much. However, I did find it much easier to throw myself around a bit once it had gone... though that could be entirely psychological in terms of no longer running around with what is for all intents and purposes, a bomb on my back (is that something I'm allowed to say?). Sniping made me realise I don't actually care all that much about raking in 50 'kills' in a day, very much landing on the 'quality over quantity' side of the fence. While minimum engagement distances very quickly got annoying. GBBRs feel like a nice middle ground of not using an AEG (nothing against them, I just don't like the sound... and tend to prefer being able to tech on my own equipment, AEGs are never something I've been comfortable working on) while also giving me the freedom while playing that HPA can take away (though it's not until you stop using it that you realise the affect it has). For reference, I like my replicas to look like replicas so the MTW Aero stocks are something I was interested in but have since changed my mind on... and the CO2 stocks while decent restrict how you can set your length of pull/which stocks you can use... which is something that bothers me more than I'd like to admit. Apologies, I'm waffling. I sure this all sounds like my mind is already made up. We all know the benefits of HPA, so it's just trying to figure out with of those benefits I'll be missing out on, and how much I'm likely to miss them. It's very easy to say 'I'm less bothered about consistent performance these days', I imagine that's something I may well eat my words on should I decide to rejig where I'm at.

Hi folks, Just a general canvas on peoples thoughts who have run HPA as their primary means of powering their RIFs and subsequently decided it wasn't for them. I've been running HPA as my primary means of powering my RIFs for a fair while now (I honestly can't remember exactly how long), I frequently go back and forth on whether it's something I can be bothered with. Since around October-ish I've been going round in circles as to what is the right decision for me and I just can't land on an answer. The biggest element to consider with HPA is the cost of getting into it, that's largely seen as the most painful bit. I have several tanks, a scuba tank, a few regulators, a hand pump with appropriate filters, lines so a fair ol' amount of investment before we even get to the RIFs that lot powers. Over the years I've found I'm much less performance orientated and have started to become much more interested in the GBBR side of life (I've tried many of them before, most recently an MWS which I very much regret parting with). I'm aware the easy answer here is 'why not both', which is something I've pondered on a lot... ultimately that falls with both systems being pretty finanicial investment heavy and with the lay of the land where it is at present I already feel I'm perhaps a little over invested in the hobby. So the question, has anyone out there felt like they were in a similar situation? Did you sell up and move to a different platform? Did you regret it massively? I'm aware it'll all be personal preference at the end of the day, but hopefully a bit of thinking aloud might give me some clarity. Cheers, Alex P.s. Yes, I'm sure having not played for month isn't helping... but it seems like as good a time as any to take stock.

I swear I read an advert in the classifieds of someone selling one of these really recently but I can't find it for the life of me now. Seemed like a very honest summary of it in terms of the reasons they weren't entirely happy with it, and why they were looking to part with it. TLDR seemed to be they didn't feel the price was justified, they felt the externals were lacking especially with slop throughout. Regrettably I payed less attention to comments on the internals/performance. Fingers crossed I'm not going mad and someone else saw the same ad I'm referring to, but a seemingly honest run down with warts and all showing from someone trying to make a sale seems about as close to unbiased as I've seen of late.

Another MWS is all I'm looking to pick up at this point. Very much regret selling the one I had, textbook case of not knowing what you have till it's gone. Alongside the constant ticking in my brain of whether I can really be bothered with HPA anymore or sell up that side of things and treat myself to that Zenitco GHK AK I've been eyeing for a while but can't justify unless I have a bit of a clearout. Decisions, decisions.

Haha, I wasn't actually referring to the 'gameplay' channels. I get zero enjoyment from squinting to try and see a video capture of a BB moving toward someone, only to have a video game hit marker and sound cover up what's actually happening. Truth to be told I only tend to watch things which are airsoft related when hunting for information on something I'm looking to buy (which I've largely stopped also, because QA isn't something which exists in airsoft, so it's a waste of time alongside the bias).

I specifically remember watching this video when it came out because it was the point I found out that Krytac is Kriss (I'm aware it's not hard information to find, but I'd never had any reason to look for it). I've definitely seen Haley in support of it prior, but seemed largely on his own in that... again, granted it's not information I was out there looking for, I stumbled onto the video Lucas posted entirely by accident. As hinted at, but not directly said, in my initial post I'm not overly arsed what others make of what I choose to do in my spare time. Just very much saw it as a 'this is refreshing' versus the usual throw away 'lul airsoft' statements which often come from the 'gun guy' YouTube crowd. For reference I tend to watch more of the real steel YouTube stuff than I do airsoft stuff, no disrespect intended toward some of the airsoft content creators out there... but the lions share of it is hot garbage and so steeped in bias that it offers no real useful information to me as a potential buyer, nor entertainment. But that's a whole other topic to this one. If real steel companies become more interested in making replica stuff for airsoft purposes I'm all for it, if this sort of thing gets us closer to that then ace. If not, I'll get over it.

I imagine many of you have already seen this, popped up on my 'recommended' front page and it piqued my interest. My overall take away is that if the attitude of real steel companies can shift from 'looking down its nose at' to 'we can see the benefit' it'd be great for the hobby as a whole. I don't personally take a lot from some of the benefits Lucas puts forward (though I do share the sentiment that I'm more into the gear side than the RIF side), it's very much a pastime for me... and I imagine many here given the practical application of 'training' outside of airsoft in this country is somewhat limited to my knowledge). Nevertheless it's pleasant to have someone involved with the real steel world not just mocking the hobby/sport/whatever we do is.

They've been set at the price since their release a while ago, no idea if that's likely to change given the various ongoing situations regarding logistics but I also wouldn't personally price an item based on speculation than an RRP might go up. I've seen nothing to suggest Silverback aren't going to continue sending items to UK stockists, so see no reason as to why they'd never be available here again. For me personally there is a difference when it comes to availability between 'discontinued' and 'currently out of stock', with the latter ultimately meaning you'll perhaps catch the attention of someone that really wants one and wants one in a rush. Given the fact we can't really use our toys at the moment I don't know how likely that is, but I already own one so it's hard to put myself in the shoes of someone that would be a potential buyer. I don't personally see anything here that would lead me to deviate from my usual pricing, but if you believe otherwise then you do you.

I'd probably be looking at listing it for around £23 including PayPal fees and postage. (Maths breakdown 60/70% of price new is around the £20 mark, plus a couple of quid for PayPal and postage.)

See's Macks is 'hot'. "Is this it, has something happened that may cure my boredom momentarily?" See's someone grumbling about Macks, while the thing they're grumbling wasn't actually on Macks. Thus causing a bit of ruckus on Macks, while still referencing the thing that wasn't on Macks. Booooooo, I'll put the popcorn back in the cupboard. Anyway, I imagine it'll be entirely ignored but I might suggest it'd be easier the sell the RIF itself with 1 or 2 mags at a cheaper rate and sell the rest of the mags separately. Ultimately depends on how much of a 'rush' there is on completing the sale, but had it been a RIF I was interested in I'd probably look at 8 500 round hicaps as a tad excessive to the point I'm paying for things I don't really have a use for. Food for thought 🤷‍♂️.

Just going to throw this in as note to avoid potential disappointment when the time comes. It's not likely (read as 'I've never found') a dive shop that would fill 48ci tank, largely because they wouldn't have the correct fitting to do so. Hence most advising picking up a scuba tank with an adapter, partly so you can actually get it filled at a dive shop and partly because it just works out better in the long run for convenience/cost. Depending on the size expect a scuba tank plus relevant adapters to run anywhere between £150-200. You mentioned air rifle ranges in your initial post, if you're against setting up your own refill station using a scuba tank you'd likely have more luck there than a dive shop.