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This is my AEG, the GBBR grip went on my MWS to match the ergonomics of this one!

Total mash up of parts (G&P, TM, PTS, Titan, lots more!) and colours but shoots like a laser beam ?

I have a Spitfire on its way to me because I am a 5 year old at heart ? (and PB still have a deal on ASG gas so might as well stock up!)

Looks like an Ugg boot...guess if you like FN SCARs it might be ok ???

I replaced my trigger internals as the previous owner had filled it full of sand and never lubed it WiiTech internals are very well finished and high quality materials. Graphite lock lube FTW. The stock trigger as new is ok, probably on a par with the L119A1 I had a play with one time although my MWS jams less ? My usual go-to comparison for triggers is the Weihrach Rekord unit in HW air rifles, and the Sandwell Field Sports tuned one the pinnacle. TL;DR until it breaks / wears out leave it be.

There should be a tube-type speedloader in the box, failing that people (including myself) have had good results with the TM speedloaders, either pistol or M4 size. Firesupport have them in stock - https://www.fire-support.co.uk/category/bb-loaders--holders/?manufacturer=87&submit.x=15&submit.y=12 Oh, and welcome to the club

Due to COVID I haven't had much of a chance to use the MWS but my initial thoughts are that the pull is lighter AND smoother with none of the notchy feel the original (and rather well used!) parts had. Break point is crisp and predictable, you can get a feel for pulling it to 80% of the way and holding it while deciding whether to pull off a shot or allow it to re-set. The parts were pricy but worth it and the quality of finish is a whole other level Lets hope come spring I can get back out to play and give it a full work over.

IIRC it has a lot less adjustment range than the stock one so it might be ok but if you are running heavier ammo it may struggle to lift it. This was covered somewhere in this thread...probably page 120-ish??

just measured mine (TM front, WiiTech rear) pins and they are 6.16 / 6.17mm diameter. Hope this helps!

I would look at a Black NPAS from RA Tech in the standard TM nozzle. Easy to get 370fps plus on 0.2g and green gas. I run mine 80% closed to keep under 350fps (0.2g equivalent) with green gas on 10-15DegC days. https://emperionstore.com/npas-kit-for-tokyo-marui-mws-gbb-ra-tech.html Stay away from AG stuff, tolerances and performance are all over the place. Also: FPS does NOT equal range. Run the heaviest BB you can consistently lift, it will be "slower" but actually carry the energy further and give better range. Time to target is minimal (or huge if your BB never gets that far down range! )

A spring won't change its spring rate after 24hrs, I have seen air rifles left cocked for years and still put out 95% of their original power ? The lost 5% was probably due to the grease turning into earwax over the years! ?

Really slick looking set up! How is the clarity of the mic and any issues with feedback screech when people on the same frequency are near?

Not tried one of those G&P rollers but I wouldn't put much stock in audio from mobile phone videos, having posted and re-watched the vids I posted up there ? there is a world of difference between human ears and phone mics

He can take a while to respond, but once he does it is sent out quick. Worth the wait.

So there is very little take up (due to much tighter tollerences) then a smooth, consistent pull until the break. No second wall or ramping up of tension as you near the break point. Still easy enough to half pull then release, but TBH in airsoft it is usually a quick, instinctive double tap, not a measured single shot at 1000m! Reset is shorter and crisper than the stock set up (which on mine was worn and pretty mushy!) But more of a 'thunk' than a 'click'. Can fire off 2 shots pretty quick, certainly easier than the worn stock trigger. If you are ever playing at a site near me let me know and you can have a play with it and see what you think.

Epic post incoming! So I have fitted all the WiiTech trigger group to my MWS. I purchased this RIF second hand and it had been well used (to be polite!) and I had to give it a good clean out and service the mags as the empty levers weren't moving due to dirt/sand in them! The trigger box was in a similar state but after a strip down, clean and lube up it wasn't too bad, certainly nothing to write home about but better than it had been. Spin forward a year and I purchased a WiiTech marksman sear and fitted that...only to find that it didn't work (2 light strikes rather than a crisp break ?) so I removed that, replaced the worn TM semi-sear and shimmed the sear, hammer and trigger pivots to eliminate some of the play and torsion binding that wasn't helping the trigger feel. Last month I splashed out £60 for a WiiTech hammer and hammer&sear spring kit from the great Fire-Support thinking that this might play nicer with the Marksman sear. I tried this with the Marksman sear and still had the same, dangerous, issues. So in a fit of crazyness I purchased a complete set of WiiTech trigger parts direct from the manufacturer, excluding the hammer and hammer&sear springs, but including a regular semi-sear. After 2 weeks and an extra £12 to ParcelFarce I had the parts in my hand. The material and finish quality is the same as the other parts; ie smooth, precision machining and black chemical finish. I fitted the parts after thoroughly cleaning the trigger box shell and the parts I was keeping in. I used some Graphite lock lubricant on the parts as I assembled them as it is meant to lubricate precision mechanisms and the "dry" formula won't attract dirt like oil or grease do. Top tip - wear gloves, it gets *everywhere* and don't lean too close when spraying it as it is a powerful jet and you will end up with a shiny face if not careful! With the parts fitted I tested it out of the receiver (sans trigger pin) and there was a smooth, crisp pull and no slop. Reset was positive and audible, it not quite as crisp as the let off point. Once I had it all reassembled I tested it and hit the only snag...with the AngryGun ambi selector semi was full auto too ?? I replaced it with the stock TM one and it worked fine, I think it wasn't allowing the disconnector to rise enough, I tried fettling it but gave up and stuck with the stock TM one. I shoot lefthanded but can still manipulate a right handed selector. Note self: Never buy AG stuff I have included a video below of a before and after video and one showing the trigger reset. I have also hosted the after vids on Instagram, search alex_random_76 In short, although it probably cost me £170 all in it is worth every penny. WiiTech trigger parts can go on the list with SixG parts, Hao Mk16 rail, RATech black NPAS and DynamicPrecision lightweight bolt that is titled "MWS upgrade parts that actually work and are worth spending money on" It isn't a long list ? 20201021_141414.mp4 20201021_150510.mp4 20201021_152138.mp4

That is this evening's job sorted then ?

Don't forget the lifetime replacement if it gets shot out / dropped / run over / eaten by the dog ??

It certainly helped, and the trigger worked ok but the edges of the sears were still worn...and I love chasing incremental improvements ?

I have a complete set of Wii Tech hardened steel trigger parts on their way, I have the hammer already and the material and finish is much better than the stock TM stuff. I will post details once I have it all fitted.

I tested mine on Nuprol Red at the weekend, about 13-15deg and the standard TM valve. I was getting 30-40fps over ASG Ultrair green gas. Ended up refitting the RA Tech NPAS and will run the ASG gas at the weekend and save the Red gas for <10degC days.

Yep, only difference is the length of the outer barrel and the stock.

A SixG brass nub would be for first suggestion, eliminate all squish from the nub. What durometer rubber are you running? Maybe worth trying a harder or softer one? I have never run anything over 0.36g so can't offer a definite answer sorry!

Update on WiiTech Marksman Sear debacle....you know the one where it light strikes the gas valve with the safety on or when you release the trigger to reset! ? I bit the bullet and purchased a Wii Tech MWS hammer and hammer spring set from FireSupport. I figured the old hammer was worn and not playing nice with the precision WiiTech sear. It turned up in the usual fast time and like the sear was really well machined and finished. It will be interesting to see how the polymer roller does as this apparently is kinder on the bolt. I fitted the hammer, sear and springs and took out all my previous shims to ensure a fair initial test. Guess what? It did it again ?‍♂️ Seems that the act of the trigger resetting in semi allows hammer to creep up the face of the sear and push the valve knocker 1/3 of the way out. A subsequent trigger pull fires it the remaining 2/3 and drops the FPS output. I took out the sear and fitted the original TM one, this time it was working fine. I shimmed the trigger pivot and sears again to remove play / torsion and re fitted it all. The reset was a bit mushy / indistinct but I think the trigger plate / disconnector springs are a bit worn...most importantly it is working as it should and safely! I have ordered a regular semi auto sear (and all the other trigger box parts!) from WiiTech HK and will let you know how I get on with these, I think I just got unlucky with the Marksman Sear or it is *really* picky! At the end of the day I just want a smooth pull and reset I can feel, not a super precision sniper trigger!

I am not sure what size screw is needed but if you measure with some calipers the hole and round up to the nearest whole mm you should be able to Google for it. Eg. If it is 2.78mm hole I would get some 3mm diameter Metric grub screws in a few lengths (6mm / 8mm / 10mm maybe?! Not seeing the original I am guestimating!) I would love to know this too! TBH the MWS trigger isn't that bad, just has feel unlike AEG switches ? I have found that stripping the trigger box and polishing the parts (and clearing out the grit and sand that the previous owner had filled it with!) helped a lot. Some 0.1mm shims (M4 and M6 size) to get rid of any excessive play / twist on parts can help but too many and it jams up...you need patience for that! I spent a previous life servicing and tuning MTB suspension so I love this sort of thing ? I have a Wii Tech hammer and spring on order as my trigger set would not play nice with the Wii Tech marksman sear (maybe due to worn parts?) so I will report on that once I have fitted it all. The Wii Tech parts are really well finished but replacing the entire trigger box contents is about $200 ?? TL;DR: Don't let the trigger put you off.