Rogerborg

Thoughts conveyed. This drama too shall pass, and it'll pass sooner if you ignore it. If you're bothered by the feedback, just create a new account: it's not like reputation matters there.

Why would someone planning to lie to you tell such an obvious lie? They'd be under 1.2J with anything up to 0.45g anyway. We're talking about the situation where Harry Hotgun says "Yeah, mate, using point twos today, mate", chronos at 350fps, then walks onto the field shooting 2J with the 0.36g that he's really got loaded. How does trusting him about the BB weight catch that?

/thread AirsoftHub isn't going to give a stuff. Some joker posted an advert purporting to be a real Glock - with a loaded magazine - there. Multiple people reported it to them, and yet it was up for months, and might still be there for all I know. I know this drama seems real to you and your, uh, "friend", but in the real world...

I honestly have no idea what this is meant to mean. If my gun is shooting hot with 0.36g, but tell you that I'm using 0.25g, how can you tell? It does seem likely that insurers are happy with sites running a fundamentally farcical "Trust me bro" system. Until something does go wrong, and then they might discover that they were never really happy with it. "Trust me bro" chrono doesn't do that. Oh, I fully agree. But what I really care about are catching and ejecting people shooting hot in the field, because that's the actual risk. At that point, I don't really care what lies they told earlier - and they may not have told any, they might have just pulled a hot bag out of a gun and walked straight on with it. All that really matters is that they are running a hot gun. And the only way to catch that is by chronoing on the field, using BBs of a known weight.

Then what was the point of the chrono? If you believe players about their BB weight, why wouldn't you just believe them when they say "I'm shooting at 1.1J" ? It's a genuine question. If we can agree that telling a simple lie make the chrono calculation meaningless, then does it really matter what the lie is?

On that, I did some health and safety liability training last century - specifically about how to avoid being sued or charged when things go wrong, as they will. It was drilled in that the worst thing you can do from a liability perspective is to identify a risk, and then put in place inadequate mitigation, because what you're doing is creating the rod that the HSE (or an insurer) will use to beat you. "You claimed that all players must be checked before playing. So run us through how Harry Hotgun evaded your checks and injured Tiny Tim, and why your process failed to anticipate and prevent that." How would you defend pre-game chrono, especially with "Trust me, bro" BB weights? We all know that it's trivial to cheat it, it's not a secret. 🤷‍♂️

This sounds like a job for... https://www.thecageairsoft.co.uk/perun-nozz-x-nozzle-system/

Well, they bill the buyer for it. I do wonder how much is rendered unto Caesar[*]. [*] Caesar Smith, he works in HMRC. Good bloke, very active in the local Rotary Club.

It would be even handier if the ape says "I hope you're not using more than 0.3g, mate, or you'll have to put it back in the bag", so that the player can just nod and confirm "Yeah, mate, yeah, I'm using whatever you just said" without even having to make up a weight themselves. The reality is that measing velocity, but not mass, is like proving a car is efficient by providing fuel receipts, then saying "Trust me bro" about the taped-over odometer.

They provide a chrono so that players can check themselves. There seems to be some confusion here. If a site doesn't provide their own BBs or weigh the player's BBs, players can simply lie that we're using a lighter weight of BB than we're actually using. It makes the Joules figures calculated by the chrono inaccurate. A site that trusts players about what BB weight we're using might as well just ask us what energy our guns are producing. It's trivial for us to lie either way.

Simping for a dommy mommy. 🤢

This is how I think it should work - as long as there is a significant amount of in-game going on. And it's fine to profile: bolties, HPA, gas guns (later in the day, don't stop chronoing after the first game), "silenced" Mk23s being used up close, anything that screams "DMR" but is brrrting. Pre-game chrono is effectively voluntary. Even when sites check tags, even when they cut off the rainbow of historic ones, or clip the excess off at the first game, all they're checking is that the gun might have been OK 20 minutes ago, assuming the player told the truth about BB weight and didn't change the spring, gas mag, hop, or regulator. Heck, my G36C has a spring adjuster built in which (after a service and nailing the air seal) can push it to... well, let's say very close to 1.3J, with a few turns of an Allan key. Ultimately what really matters is what a gun is actually producing at the instant where it shoots some kid in their earball.

Bloke's life seems like this, on constant repeat.

There's only two things I can't stand on this forum: posters who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

Careful now: if you're on your phone all game, you might be mistaken for a marshal.

Damn, that's a shame to hear. How recent was that experience? They used to be all over it at the old Castlemilk site, including flat bans on Dan Wesson revolvers, and Mk23s with "silencers" (actually barrel extensions). I haven't tried the new site yet, I've not heard great things about it.

"locked" Spot checking, in the field, with site BBs. Good on you for doing that. More sites should, because anything else is chrono theatre, a way for players to find out if we're likely to fail in-game testing. Most players aren't going to be a problem, so most spot checks will be fine. But there are going to be some rogues, and the goal should be to identify and eject them. If everybody could be trusted, then chrono wouldn't be necessary, right? I mention the Depot as I was spot checked there, and they punted one of their marshals for running hot. I even saw the site runner getting checked by his own marshals once in game - although presumably he'd have had to pick himself up by his own collar and... uh... toss himself off.

Nah, you're fine. 11.1V can get a little spicy[*], but 7.4V is spot on for CYMAs and most other toys. [*]

Captain Walt, on his radio to his squadtoon: "Moving! Up! Staircase B! In! Significant! Force!" Yeah, no, it's just me and you, mate, and I'm planning to use you as a meatshield. Intercept away, see if it does you any good.

Nobody said it was illegal to buy, or to own, a RIF. It's an offence to sell, to import (or cause to be imported), or to manufacture a RIF, or to modify an IF into a RIF. The same offence applies to everyone. The same defences apply to everyone. In practice it's simply not enforced on anyone, retail or private, anywhere except at point of entry to the UK. But this isn't Facebook or Reddit where confidence and VOLUME hold sway. In the law section here, we cite and discuss statutes, regulations and case law.

Nope, it comes with (or at some point came with) a NIMH battery, as some CYMAs do. Bin it and go to 7.4V lipo, there's no reason to use steam powered tech.

Sites should be chronoing with their own BBs, not trusting players at all. They should also be checking that some hop is applied, and spot checking in-game, given how easy it is to increase power with springs, gas or regulator adjustments. But that would require preparation to maintain a selection of speedloaders, and to tell players to leave room in their mags. Most sites don't even check tags during the day, let alone actual muzzle energy. There are some very rare exceptions, like the Depot, demonstrating that it can be done when the site runner and marshals actually care.

Mmm, is his "financial crisis" that HMRC have caught up with him for unpaid corporation tax?

Their dimensions look right, as an 18650 is (wait for it...) 18mm in diameter (plus the wiring run down the side) and 65mm long. Well, 65.0mm, thus 18650.

EX3 appears to be a "file system full" error for Invision, so just delete all the attachments and posts and we should be fine. 💡