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If you like that one then you’ll love the Trump rally playlist Americans aren’t known for their sense of irony

If you really are set on this, at great expense, it’s also available from Germany €72 on the German site, add postage, VAT and handling fees https://www.hornerarms.de/p/hkp-quick-detach-sling-attachment-sling-pin-large I haven’t used the German language for half a century, so you’ll have to check out their shipping policy yourself

UKARA central registration is valid for one year, but is based on your local sites membership scheme Ask your site about renewal

@Tinpotmartian When it arrives have a check for information of what details the sender declared on the customs label

Those pesky laid back tolerant bastards

Can, but choose not to There is either no legal requirement (unless the VCRA gets applied with no listed paintball defence) So for just an average random they can buy from a UKPSF member retailer for an extra £5, or go to a non UKPSF retailer (Edit - some sites / events provide a UKPSF discount, which has usually been the price of membership - two participating events and you’re quids in - or some sites / events charge a higher non membership price) If a ‘proper’ player, interested in being a member then it can be £15 for 5 years (Optionally if you can find it then pay a paintballers business to turn your digital card into a pretty metal card - or do as I do now and pay a few hundred ££ for my own sublimation setup and make my own - in a few decades that will work out cheaper) For a little subliminal advertising, the original UKPSF one man band provided player membership with public liability & injury insurance, with the membership fee going to the premiums. My original membership came as ‘free’ with a magazine subscription, so I was a member and insured for free. (The insurance wasn’t really worth anything for me as my employment sickness benefits were better, plus my other life/injury/sports insurance, so I would not qualify for anything but causing someone else’s injury) At a later date they added a free uninsured membership - basically to push up member numbers , so for a couple of years I did that. Numbers did go up, but didn’t really count to anything (such as Sport England recognition - on the list for decades, still not formal, but with the new-ish committee getting traction did get accepted for the Covid reopening - which then boosted numbers due to people seeing an outcome The free membership was scrapped for the current £5 1 year / £15 5 year - and insurance dropped, with fees now going to the UKPSF (no longer a one man band as he retired and handed the reigns over to a committee , which has gained traction) End of pointless advert of paintball membership to an audience of airsofters disguised as a history

@ruskitsellerhit the nail right on the head about the supposed death of forums ….. often cited that social media trumps forums, in the ignorance of what social media is and how long it has been around. Social media is suggested as beginning in the late 90s and taking off in the 2000s, but was preceded by 70s chat groups & bulletin boards A forum is a place for discussion, and internet forum software provides hosts with the ability to structure them They have evolved over time with numerous features beyond their origins, but remain as structured places Social media such as Reddit may be just a bulletin board system of today, Facebook is the current flavour of systems such as MySpace, these go in waves based on the population of those environments as a generation moves on and doesn’t want their day to day social media to be fully connected to their great aunt As these forms of social media lack a clear structure there sometimes becomes a misconception that the past is the past and has gone away, until a reminder of your night of debauchery a decade ago flags up in ‘memories’, which you can choose not to reshare - or even worse your friend shares their ‘memories’ involving you - it’s fine for a chat over old times, less so when you are now management and it flashes over your profile Forums do die, but they are the place that keeps getting visited, and I do like it when someone comes up on a forum to tell the community that forums are dead so come over to my new forum

UKPSF maintain player membership, but do not run a UKARA style playing requirement. Players just sign up & pay for membership. UKPSF retail members have adopted a voluntary scheme to sell only to UKPSF members, or sell membership with the sale

It’s quite a hefty read, but there shouldn’t be prohibition of private use/filling/transporting There are parts of the legislation that will refer to private use, but as you’ve found is a hard read The bottom line is your Pi is effectively the same standard, (there was a slight difference between Pi & DOT), and manufacturers aren’t making different cylinders for different regions, but manufacturing to meet/exceed all standards and submitting for standards testing to qualify for the markings I would be more concerned that a cylinder is in serviceable condition, in date etc - but when cylinder checking for an event I would look for the key points of UK legal, in date, no danger signs - and I’m not doing any events so won’t be comparing Pi dates Yes - those would apply to the importers & sale There will be cylinders on the shelves that had preceded the changeover, and also may be some imported post changeover in ignorance (Quite a few post Brexit standards regulations have established EU standards as valid, but they didn’t for cylinders) The bottom line is whether or not it will affect you in being able to use a cylinder on site at the fill station or to play, and potentially whether it impacts upon getting a hydro test (not particularly worth the cost for an aluminium cylinder) A UK hydro tester should not permit you to test a wrongly dated Pi as they are licenced, but I don’t know what level that sites are checking ………….. As per the original post with the flow chart (which I disagree with due to over simplification) sites have been made aware and staff ought to be checking cylinders before filling (they should do so anyway) Whether or not they do check, and whether or not the checker knows anything beyond what they usually see can vary widely (Note my comment about a player I know, that I first met at one of our events when I refused use of his US cylinder - and loaned him mine for the day - he more recently pointed out that only I and two venues ever checked him until he retired it) …………….. Back in the day when I began playing there was a blind eye turned to the use of US DOT cylinders in the UK. Partly with most sites running CO2 systems and players getting HPA, filling from personal scuba cylinders. (So if you didn’t use their fill station they ignored your cylinder) As more HPA fill systems spread across sites, blind eyes and bad habits occurred - including under age self fills This came to a head when there was a flash fill explosion on a site in the South . The knee jerk reaction was to blame the specialist ultra light design and it harmed a manufacturers reputation, but it was found to be an unregulated fast fill combined with an unknown players poor maintenance and oil contamination That sorted the tournament world for years, but they seemed to forget years later slipping in awareness when the scenario world adopted those standards of checking and awareness training.

That depends - if the joules don’t change the velocity also does not change The joules as per the muzzle velocity is different from the energy imparted in the chamber based on many physics things happening along the barrel The energy imparted onto a BB in the chamber remains the same irrespective of the BB (or actually it might, because force has to be exerted to begin the momentum and a heavier BB will resist more than a lighter BB) It accelerates down the barrel, and depending on the internal barrel size vs the BBs actual size could theoretically float on air, but will have friction or bounce around in the barrel, and also get some friction from the hop up before escaping into the open air These various factors are generally called joule creep when a heavier BB does not come out at the ‘right’ slower velocity to match the equivalent energy. The combination of different configurations / efficiency Joules do change - which is of course the whole argument over with regards to chrono checking After leaving the barrel different BBs and different RIF configurations can result in different performance in flight with some losing monentum gradually, some going further, some flying almost perfectly then suddenly dropping when losing backspin.

The main legislation is the ‘transportable’ one which covers the movement of compressed air cylinders. This covers both commercial and private use (eg in your car to & from a game would be private - but complicated if you are in a work van or company car) Parts of the legislation may not apply to private individuals, but that gets into grey areas with the odds being that a players cylinder would qualify as small / low capacity and exempt from parts of the legislation Other related legislation for filling etc is in the world of HSE and therefore not applicable to individuals (but applicable to the sites we play at) I discussed carrying cylinders with a firefighter neighbour with regard to the need to display diamond warning signs in vehicles - a commercial requirement, but not required on private vehicles with low capacity cylinders. His preference for dealing with a crashed vehicle is that markings are shown so that they know what it is when cutting into your car The references to ‘placing on the market’ are due to the timings of Brexit and the status of NI post Brexit, with the relevance being that a pre Brexit / transition Pi cylinder was fully valid and remains valid based on EU TPED regulations and related legislation. Cylinders with an early enough birth date sat on the warehouse shelf are still valid for UK sales and usage. Those with a later birth date are not - but as the UK is a tiny market in the world of compressed cylinders and even smaller for playing cylinders then it’s hardly worth the manufacturers going to the expense of certification and therefore it took a long time to get any to market Retailers should not have stocked and sold post transition Pi cylinders, but will have done so Its up to the site you play at as to whether they check and whether they let you use a cylinder - but they are liable under HSE legislation when it gets filled

Joules are a measure of energy Chronographs measure velocity Some chronographs calculate the joules from the velocity based on the entered mass

Don’t do it!!! Keep this forum going However, there are many Facebook groups This forums Facebook is linked below. That doesn’t have chat going on as it acts as a touch point for the forum and is likely to be used for the status of a major outage etc. It can be handy to have it anyway, for both its main purpose and for the Facebook algorithm to top up tour interest in airsoft, thus then suggesting others https://www.facebook.com/share/18gojAvwDN/?mibextid=wwXIfr A thing that Facebook compliments well along side forums is for sub groups - especially local region and/or site groups, that gets the opportunity to see what’s going on, meet like minded local people etc Next is the niche parts of airsoft - MilSim, speedsoft etc - good for like minded people and finding things further afield for your preferences (or discovering the local one that you have never heard of) It goes bad when the dispersed groups take the world away from the forums, which was the cause of the fall of forms, but followed when Facebook added more rules and people trickled back to forums (mainly for a sale) I suggest searching Facebook for local site names, sub genres and then seeing what else the algorithm comes up with I know that you say that you don’t use Facebook, but along with Reddit it is where chat happens Consider making a basic account just for airsoft that does not need to be your real name

All chronographing is by FPS Anyone claiming to chrono in joules are either a conversion formula within the chrono based on setting the claimed mass, or a reference chart of FPS to joules The ‘benefit’ of FPS chrono is that any weight can be chronoed without making changes to the settings Problems remain when chronoing with different BBs than playing, when not properly declaring the BB weight etc and especially when it is a lip service exercise