Oneshotscott

@Prince I will try my best to answer your question Am I an experienced sniper = yes I use the ssg10 (started off as the A1 model but later bought the A3 stock as I didn't like the A1 grip). Have I had other Airsoft sniper rifles? = yes (in order: well MB01, MB08, vsr10, SRSA1) 1)Hitting 80m with no problems is achievable with a few minor upgrades (tridos TDC and a very thorough strip, clean and re-lube of the entire RIF). 2)Hitting 80m with no problems is very difficult to do if there are variable wind speeds, poor quality BB's or user error. 3)Will you start hitting 80m targets on the first gameday after buying your new fully upgraded RIF? NO. things will need to bed in and the first few game days expect the odd shot to disappoint. 4)Would I recommend the SSG10? It's a great value rifle to start from and upgrade. There are other options out there such as action army, silverback and the TM VSR10 which also require upgrades to have that performance most players dream of (YouTube videos do not show airsoft sniping very well). I would suggest that you pop along to your local site, or visit a few and ask to hold/try out other players rifles as some options might not feel right for you, so find the one that you like the feel/look of and then research upgrade options into that model. You will also hear their stories on how good/bad it is sniping and the pain they had getting their rifle to shoot how it does. Good luck.

Thank for all of your input. I wasn't aware of the abundance of ways players could cheat. That said, this thread can be deleted as its clearly utterly pointless/futile. So MODERATORS, please delete or leave it to sink away into the abyss.

EDcase, This is brilliant stuff so thanks, just what is needed to resolve this issue. The more 'ways to cheat' or problems as I see them the better in order to eliminate them at the chronograph testing procedure. Regards the players who cheat the Chrono via applying too much hop: This would be difficult to police and I would like to think that sites have a very well airsoft educated/time-served Marshall carrying out the chronograph tests. This way the Marshall could jot the players name down if he/she had an incline that the rif was over-hopped and could carry out a random Chrono shortly after game start.

Please don't bite as this is just a passing thought. This forum (along with other Airsoft forums) has enough intellect in its member to collaborate and create a template email/letter to ask our sites to change how it measures our RIF'S at Chrono. If we ALL send/hand in this template the message will get across that they're acting wrongfully by potentially allowing "hot RIF'S" in gameplay. I can't see the site owners taking any offence to this as they should take safety very seriously to ensure the future of this hobby and their businesses. Something on the lines of; Dear airsoft site, I ...............................am asking for you to stop using the current method of carrying out chronograph testing with 0.20g bb's as this method cannot determine accurately the joule rating if a different weight bb which the user will use. I am suggesting for the safety of the players that you adopt the method of carrying out chronograph tests using the players bb's which they will be using and measuring the joule rating instead of FPS(feet per second). Regards, ........................................ signed .............................. Date ....../......./........ If needed, a concise explanation of joule creep could be included with an example to avoid any debate on how the physics works which may help avoid debates with site owners/Marshall's on these grounds. Can we all work together and collectively as a whole across all forums, social media etc to all apply this email/letter to sites? Dare I say it but...even get in touch with the well known YouTube Airsofters and ask them to assist in getting this off the ground? If we can have some big names and companies on board (brands/UKAPU/popular players/retailers) then maybe they'd be happy for us to mention them on the letter to add leverage.

All I'm going to say is that its nowhere near 2.5j but sadly its over 2.32j. I'm being lazy (plus I currently don't have the time to go and Chrono it again at this moment) but from memory I think it was 2.38j on 0.43g bb's. So when I get a chance il remove a spring spacer to get it as close to 2.25j just to be safe. That is of course unless I sell it first in the mean time. Thankfully my AEG is 0.98j with 0.28g bb's so it's pretty legal but still it can "HiT a ThReE iNcH gRoUp At 100 'airsoft' MeTeRs ObViOuSlY"

Due to airsoft site insurance policies you cannot max out those figures. I am a little annoyed as My springer set to 500fps on .20 which is great for some sites but other sites have the joule rule and some other sites enforce a different joule rating (this applies to both full auto & semi using the weight bb you plan to use).....Man I wish sites would all sing from the same hymn sheet for once and for all. I would change the joules of all your RIF's to meet the requirement by the site which you intend to attend which has the lowest joule rules per RIF. Unless that is of course that you enjoy tinkering and don't mind stripping a rif to change bits to increase/decrease joules/fps to suit each field?

So i'm going to my first ever battle-sim which is zombie themed (halloween I guess) and the game plan looks pretty fun, there is even prizes for best kills etc. I haven't played in a long time so i'm going to get shot to sh*t but it's all fun and for a good cause so what's not to like? If anyone else is interested in going its based near Richmond (N.Yorkshire) and all proceedings will be donated to 'the army benevolent fund'. link below to their Facebook advert or google Adrenalin Airsoft and give them a call to enquire. https://www.facebook.com/events/380456973783297 (Just thought I'd mention that I have no ties with this site what so ever and this will be my first time playing there)

Man that sucks and I am glad you and your family are ok. I am not a battery expert but his is the reason why Ive stuck to Ni-Mh batteries and renew them every 2 years. Im not a die hard air softer so my kit gets stored in a place where its out of sight (like a garage or shed) so If there were to be a battery failure/fire I wouldn't be aware of it until its too late. For me the extra rps Id be achieving isn't worth the risk, especially when you have a family and a house full of items that cannot be replaced. It's all about knowing the risks and taking preventive steps to avoid such tragedies.

For a long game I run a helikon training mini rig (4 mid caps and 2 mk23 mags), a cheap molle shooters belt that carries a mk23 pistol, a quake 8 bfg, warrior slim dump pouch, 5 midcaps (why not)and a warrior med pouch for ssg10 mags if I play sniper. For shorter games I ditch the chest rig and run the 5 mags and the single mk23 with one mag in it and the trusty bfg. I tried plate carriers but they make me overheat and I find them excessive for airsoft. The helikon tmr is the best rig I've used (I've tried a few, but not all obv) for most styles of play and sits very comfortably whilst leaving the back free to help with cooling. Unfortunately the only way you'll know what works for you is to try each which means either buying stuff or borrowing it.

As previously mentioned, this image from the potato computer archive doesn't show poor weapons handling or safety. He has eyepro on, mags out, battery is unknown. He could of dropped it muzzle end in the dirt and is checking its clear. His eyes not even in line with the barrel.

This also.

Pretty sure lee wade from 6mm long range airsoft group (fb) has made 'lob' shots close to 150m with his tanaka. Yes he's above 1j but I imagine if anyone's perusing the longest shot for an airsoft rif it's someone on his group, whether they are in the UK or overseas.

Exactly the same here. If any players ask why I have it I might start telling them I'm the "god mode police" or that I enjoy recording people that ask pointless questions.

Yeah crack on its fine. Try to ignore thoughts of what others may think of you. If you want to video your game play then crack on and have fun.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was originally 2-toned. Saying that if he did state this the price would probably jump up by £20-50.

I'm in Cumbria so after trying NSC (I was working in Alnwick for a few months) I really enjoyed that site but I'm back in the lakes now so dirtydog was my closest that's open on a Sunday. Try out NSC if you're north of Newcastle and don't mind woodland. I'm going to try all arms and adrenaline airsoft next. You should still go and try dirtydog for yourself, I'd never try to deter anyone from going even though I've had a bad experience. You might go on a "good day" and love it.

My day at dirtydog in Shildon (NE England). I need to point out that I hate moaning about sites & players but this place became too much for me, or in a word..shit. Cheating players everywhere. The Marshall brief was below par when compared to other sites. - also worth noting that for the amount of players attending there was not enough Marshall to instil discipline and keep watch on the non hit takers. I accidentally shot some poor chap in the grid (he only had his head on display) on full auto from 30m away as I thought I was in an area which I was allowed to do so. However "the Village" spans well beyond the buildings that make up the village and even up the far embankments (which in an early game full auto was permitted) so I was confused but apologised immediately to the other player, twice just incase he didn't hear me. Then some muppet threw a mk5 at me from 15 m away, I saw it mid flight and ran back 5 m then slid approx 10m down the steep embankment and once it detonated I shouted "no kills". The other player shouted " bushes don't count as hard cover", I said "does 15m down an embankment count" sarcastically and he said "no". I continued playing and shot him but he didn't call his hit so I walked away and attacked another part of the village. I reported the cheating twats to a Marshall but he seemed uninterested to deal with it. I would have happily accepted a ban over a time period for full auto'ing that guy even though the rules were vague at best I felt shit once he called for it. I called my hits, I complied with MED's and all other rules through the day but others couldn't which pissed me off. The search continues for a decent site that's not 2hrs+ away. RANT CLOSED

Erm... No... I wasn't aware that I would need one? Its shooting great without it but il try to get one of those nubs and thanks for the information.

Update: Test shots provided me with confidence that even without upgrading it would be capable of tight groups. But... I bought a zci barrel and maple leaf macaron bucking from ak2m4 on here, fitting them took 10 mins including cleaning up the inner barrel prior to installation. The results are better than stock (back garden tests) however I will have to wait until tomorrow to see the real difference at its first gameday at dirtydog airsoft (never played here before so im hoping for good things). 332-335 on 0.20bb (20 test shots) If it's dire then il have the Ssg10 A3 & mk23 to play with instead.

New arrivals. G&G sr15 e3 mod2 knights armament and Novritsch SSG10 A3. The PEQ's 3m velcro adhesive sticker won't adhere on the rubber switch so I'm looking for ways to attach it to the top rail. Just incase the stock barrel and hop aren't up to the job (SR15) I've ordered a barrel and bucking from @ak2m4@ak2m4.

Thanks for the reply I bought that many because 1) theyre very cheap , 2) everything's going up in price and 3) I run 7 mags. If they don't work with any of my guns then 6 of them will be sold/or returned for refund as new and 1 sold as used. I'm all sorted. Buy it now or price boom.

7 x 150rnd Battleaxe mags arrived today from patrol base and 4 x g&g g2 THERMOLD mags should arrive by the weekend so il see which works best. Can't help but notice the majority of players buying a top tier rif then having to fork out more £££ to have it fire at uk limits with a small grouping, Deans blah blah. I'm hoping this is different. Everyday is a school day. Thanks for the information lozart.

Homeless snail - I play both urban and woodland so the longer version is best all-round for me. The shorter version looks great for cqb. Johnyboy1976 - Thank you for that info and at the ranges that your sr25 will reach out I can see those upgrades being pretty important. That said, ill take on board your recommendations.