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Yes you can, I wouldn't play without Rita! Lol. Just means it's more objective based game rather than attack and defend.

Let me know if you are going. You will have to ring and book a hire gun. I think it's resident evil night on Wednesday.

Agreed. We (different generations of my family) have been running a roofing contractors for over 55 years and have seen the rules change a lot. Even if we take every possible safety measure we are still liable although reduced if we do everything reasonably possible to manage risk.

Yes mate.

Yes mate and am goin Wednesday night.

First thing to do is find a site that will let you. From there you will find it takes logical steps. How meny of you are there that are looking to start up? Do any of you have any business exp?

Understood but it is there fault for allowing you access. It would be for them to prove your injury was as a result of your negligence as u said if you go into a marked restricted access area. Or that the owner had taken every possible step to stop you hurting yourself even then it won't help them. Health and safety would shit the site faster Jan you could dial there number. There's always a way to sue someone that's why these slip trip and fall scum lawyers get so meny successful claims. Side not, when they take on a no win no fee claim they take out insurance for there cost incase they lose. So for them it's win win.

So you all have other incomes? It isn't as difficult as you may think. Yes you would need some start up capital. It is possible you could apply for grants etc as you are repurposing a deralict building. what you need most of is time!

Trigger you are totally missing the point of a risk assessment. It is to assess the risk to person,property, environment, etc. It isn't so that you can say well that's an issue and here's a wiaver to embemnifi me from any liability of harm as a result of a risk I know is present. The idea of it is so that you can then implement measures in a method statement to reduce the risk. And then conduct another risk assessment. Untill all the risks are reasonably managed. The fact that the person who is allowing you access to his/her site knows about potential risks only puts them more open to liability. Whether people a pay or not or play or not you need insurance or you are putting yourself at risk.

Agreed trigger however even if you are playing without paying and at your own risk you can still hold the owner liable if you have an accident and absolutely no waiver would hold up in court if for example you fell through a rotten floor. Even if you don't have permission to be there and you have an accident you can sue the owner. Example; a man was walking over a fragile roof (asbestos sheets) looking for somewhere to break in. He fell through the roof and broke bones etc. He succefully claimed against the building owner for injuries and for exposing him to asbestos. All because there where no signs up warning him. You could do a risk assessment on the site but there is always a reason to stop it. I have to write Rams for working at hight and it's easier to get permission to see inside Cheryl Coles knickers. Ps I know that's not her name now but who knows what is is these days.

Agree with above post. Waivers only apply to injuries as a result of the activity you are undertaking. Public liability insurance would still be required and if somethin where to happen it would be the site owner who was equally liable. Then there is the police/public issue. With regard to the op. I find it highly unlikely for you to be grant permission to access that site because whilst it may be abandoned there is still value (even scrap) in the items in there. Also if they are looking to rent it out and lease it to you in the short term as people have mentioned, how do you think it would look with 1.64 billion bbs on the floor? Broken windows? Etc There would also be an increased cost on the building insurance due to it now having a purpose. Once you start to take money of people and hire premises you effectively have started a business. It is a lot easier to find a farmer with a couple of acres of woodland that you can all pay him to play on. Not even health and safety can find fault with a root. Although I think they would try. This is why cqb sites in America are the way ther are.

I charge my lipos outside. I have an outside socket but you could run an extension into the garden. Only thing I can lose is the battery and charger. And maybe a burnt flag or two.

Thanks for your help. I really like my cm16 it's the first gun I bought and have been buyin others since but can't find the feel am looking for. Not really bothered what it looks like it's how it behaves. Wantsomthin with a very fast trigger response and high rate of fire on semi. Not really into full auto. Don't mind somthin that I might have to do a bit of work on but it will be my first attempt at upgrading a gun myself. Would prefer not to have to change major internal parts but would if needed.

Never let it be said that the duck will be out done on length!

Go the gym! Got to train arms so I can cock my gun.

Thanks. Any suggestions for an alternative? I already have a g&g cm16, jg g36, Ump45 and a tm mp7. We play a lot of cqb but looking at starting to play woodland more. Looking to buy a "pro" platform.

Am looking for a new rif that has good trigger response and rate of fire on semi auto. Have a go of a couple of the new ares weapons. Was looking at the badger or the 009. Looking for peoples thoughts, experiences good or bad.

I tend to not take it all to seriously and don't really care what I look like. Have played in my work clothes before now (long story) but I do think that there is needs to be a distinction between milsim and regular Airsoft.

Even the new ones? Had a go of a couple and the rate of fire on semi and the range were excellent. Any other suggestions instead to get the same results? Should this be a new thread?

Are they that bad?

I really want an new ares badger and if anythin it's made me push my plan to get one forward. Once I've got it they won't get it off me!

There big and bulkie. That clip is exactly what I was thinking. Sod it am gettin one.

i don't know about everyone else but I can't help but look for cover wen am out and about. It's pissin down her at the minute and everyone has a brollie. Could I use a black was a a portable foldable tactical shield? Just for shits!

Yes but there are more things to consider than just the lengths of the barrel. Hop up, consistency of fps, barrel diameter, quality of bbs, in door or out door, etc. What kind of site are you likely to play at most, cqb or woodland? What kind of player are you? shoot and move or pick off players from the back?

Ok. I would spilt the budget that you have and buy a g&g cm16 long or short and get yourself a gbb pistol and a couple of spare m4 mags and a spare gas pistol mag. That combined with what u have will give you a great starting setup.