Super64 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I have checked and done a search and not found the answer. Do you still need UKARA to purchase a rif in Northern Ireland? I’m assuming the answer is yes, but I’m talking to a guy who wants to buy one of my guns and when I asked him for his UKARA details he informed me that the rules are different in N.I. and that you don’t need UKARA. I’m pretty sure this is bull and he’s just chancing his arm, but thought I’d double check in case I’m missing something. As far as I’m aware the VCRA and UKARA are for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and so the the same rules apply in N.I. Thanks in advance. As I say, sorry if this info is readily available, I have checked, but may have missed it in my foggy night shift condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you can`t shoot me Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Yes The vcra does apply in northern ireland same as the rest of the united kingdom, Southern ireland on the other hand vcra does not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 27, 2018 Supporters Share Posted September 27, 2018 RIF sales are the same- you need a defence, one of which is UKARA although other entities such as re-enactment groups also count (basically you just need to satisfy the retailer you're not getting it to do a bank job) the only difference between uk and ni regulatory wise for RIF's is anything over 1j is out (of course it doesn't stop some folk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super64 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 Yeah, I was sure that was still the case. Just wasn’t sure if I’d missed something that had changed recently covering N.I. A polite refusal is on its way to the chancer on Prefired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 27, 2018 Supporters Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Super64 said: Do you still need UKARA to purchase a rif in Northern Ireland? No. You don't need UKARA to purchase a RIF anywhere else in the UK either. You, the seller, need to adduce a defence. It doesn't matter to whom you are selling. UKARA is neither necessary, nor necessarily sufficient. You need to be able to show that you are selling the RIF for the purposes of airsoft skirmishing (or one of the other S37 defences). How you do that is entirely up to you, how much trust you put in your buyer, and how much risk you're willing to accept. Aside, S36 only applies to England, Wales and Scotchland, but Schedule 2 S4 applies the same provisions to Northern Ireland, so your buyer is talking jive about the "rules" being different there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg147 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Is it definitely Northern Ireland that has the 1J limit, or is that just the Republic? Website's I'm checking aren't making it too clear. I'm trying to sell a GBB pistol at the moment which fires between 320 and 340 FPS, and the buyer is based in NI. I don't really want to be responsible for the importation of a firearm! Also, has anyone ever posted a RIF to NI? I'm trying to figure out if I'd have any problems like I might have posting to another country, or whether it's the same as any other shipping within the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintrade Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 From PSNI (Police Service Northern Ireland) In Northern Ireland airguns and CO2 guns having a discharge kinetic energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) require to be held on a firearm certificate. https://www.psni.police.uk/advice_information/firearms/know-the-law/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg147 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, skintrade said: From PSNI (Police Service Northern Ireland) In Northern Ireland airguns and CO2 guns having a discharge kinetic energy in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft lbs) require to be held on a firearm certificate. https://www.psni.police.uk/advice_information/firearms/know-the-law/ Ah excellent, exactly what I was looking for. Not quite sure why I couldn't find that, clearly my Google-fu is lacking. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemsHD Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 28/10/2018 at 18:06, Greg147 said: Is it definitely Northern Ireland that has the 1J limit, or is that just the Republic? Website's I'm checking aren't making it too clear. I'm trying to sell a GBB pistol at the moment which fires between 320 and 340 FPS, and the buyer is based in NI. I don't really want to be responsible for the importation of a firearm! Also, has anyone ever posted a RIF to NI? I'm trying to figure out if I'd have any problems like I might have posting to another country, or whether it's the same as any other shipping within the UK. Out of date thread but as an NI Airsofter I get asked this a lot. Posting to NI is the same as posting in England, Scotland and Wales. The biggest difference is couriers like UPS and DHL like to extract the urine and charge a "Air/Sea Fee" which won't be any less than £15 for anything... Royal Mail/ParcelForce are best for posting to us here... or MyHermes if you're willing to risk handing it to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 27/09/2018 at 17:08, you can`t shoot me said: Yes The vcra does apply in northern ireland same as the rest of the united kingdom, Southern ireland on the other hand vcra does not apply. Would hope so given we had about 800 years of sectarian conflict to settle that little debate......its a different country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, EvilMonkee said: Would hope so given we had about 800 years of sectarian conflict to settle that little debate......its a different country Over simplified there..... Northern Ireland is a state in its own right. It is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is a country in its own right. (Generally known as the South despite having a border North of Northern Ireland) But they both remain part of Ireland and both Southerners and Northerners are considered to be Irish with the freedom of travel between the states. It’s one of the issues with Brexit But stepping away from the politics, on a RIF legal basis, the South is a totally different legal entity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Tommikka said: Over simplified there..... Northern Ireland is a state in its own right. It is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is a country in its own right. (Generally known as the South despite having a border North of Northern Ireland) But they both remain part of Ireland and both Southerners and Northerners are considered to be Irish with the freedom of travel between the states. It’s one of the issues with Brexit But stepping away from the politics, on a RIF legal basis, the South is a totally different legal entity I am Northern Irish born and bred..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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