Mk6/Mk7 British helmets.

[Kommandant_Epicness]

Hi, I'm currently working on a British army styled setup. I've been looking at helmets they use but can't seem to find one in my size. My size is 60cm so if anyone could give some pointers or sell me one it would be appreciated, cheers.

[jcheeseright]

Size large Mk6 will fit you fine.

[Mike636]

To be realistic get either a Helmet that is too small or so one so huge and vast that it sits at a jaunty angle every time you move - bonus points for a musty odor.

[Kommandant_Epicness]

To be realistic get either a Helmet that is too small or so one so huge and vast that it sits at a jaunty angle every time you move - bonus points for a musty odor.

Haha, nice. Maybe I could get a child's version. Hah.

[Kommandant_Epicness]

Size large Mk6 will fit you fine.

Cheers, just needed some pointers

[EvilMonkee]

^{I for one will take an interest in arresting you if you manage to procure a Mk7 helmet as they are on the prohibited list. Stick to Mk6's please!}

[Albiscuit]

Prohibited how?

[AirsoftTed]

Civi's aren't allowed to own them yet - they've not been made surplus so any being sold are stolen from the MOD by cheeky chappies.

 

Same way MTP was prohibited for civilians to own until enough was procured for the troops.

[Mr Monkey Nuts]

Have you actually got the legislation to support that?, Obviously selling unauthorised ex MOD kit is illegal, but the items themselves aren't as far as I can tell.

 

I have legitimate access to a Mk7 and know many that do, and Level 4 plates for that matter. I can guarantee if you approached Morgan with enough cash, you could walk out with a Mk7.

[jcheeseright]

The difference is when that Mk7 has a little arrow stamped on it somewhere... I expect about 99% of the Mk7s in public circulation are knocked off MoD property, same for osprey plates.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Have you actually got the legislation to support that?, Obviously selling unauthorised ex MOD kit is illegal, but the items themselves aren't as far as I can tell.

 

I have legitimate access to a Mk7 and know many that do, and Level 4 plates for that matter. I can guarantee if you approached Morgan with enough cash, you could walk out with a Mk7.

 

It would count as stolen property?

[EvilMonkee]

Bar my being current Military Police and seeing the posters all over my workplace? I can dig the policy out if you like....

[EvilMonkee]

Found the export restrictions https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/313616/strategic-export-control-militarylist20140517.pdf

 

Ebay also has policy on it and apart from the fact its common theft is that enough for you? Cant track down the specific DIN at the moment but will keep looking

[Albiscuit]

Fair enuff.. makes sense i suppose. Was just curious.

 

 

What have I started? hahahah

[cavninja]

If its so illegal, how come the MoD hasn't cracked down on the sale of them on ebay? The current price for a good condition or new Mk7 is between £70-100.

I know RMP and MoD have pursued cases in the past for certain items, but nothing seems to be done in this case?

A friend of mine who is a serving QM has told me that the only items of accountable kit on your 1157 are now the Mk7 and the GSR, everything else gets written off.

[Mr Monkey Nuts]

I don't deny that selling stolen MOD kit is illegal, I disagree with your insinuation that all mk7 helmets are stolen.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Is it only illegal if the helmet was listed on a 1157 or 1098, or are they all universally considered stollen if not returned, and them not being listed as returnable kit a clerical error rather than permission to keep/sell?

[cavninja]

Surely if the MoD considered all Mk7s as their property and have not given permission for any to be sold privately, then ebay would not be allowing the sales to go ahead as they would be assisting in the sale of stolen goods?

Has anyone heard of anyone having been prosecuted for selling a Mk7?

Has anyone ever been arrested for owning one they were not issued??!!

I'm guessing no, but I'd be very interested to hear Evilmonkee's thoughts? I'm sure he could shed some light on this?

Perhaps there are so many Mk7s out there now that the MoD considers any sort of legal action impracticable and unsustainable?

I get the export ban, it is for very good reasons, but domestic, UK based private sales? There's no legal difference between a Mk6 and a Mk7, they're ballistic helmets.

[EvilMonkee]

No insinuation intended. Selling one THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED to you (Caps for emphasis) is illegal. There is a team that looks at this currently but they are probably so over worked.....

 

Apologies for derailing the thread, its just this particular issue is a bit of a bête noire of mine.

[Kommandant_Epicness]

No insinuation intended. Selling one THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED to you (Caps for emphasis) is illegal. There is a team that looks at this currently but they are probably so over worked.....

 

Apologies for derailing the thread, its just this particular issue is a bit of a bête noire of mine.

It's fine, it's just something to talk about!