Del Monty

Are you asking how to 'unsweat' your goggles or 'unsweat' in general .. cause if its the latter my answer would be deodorant and a shower.

Do you think its those who 'take it seriously' that cause the most issues ? I am meaning this in general .. not personal to anyone .. I have played a lot with ex forces members and never seem to have any issues with regards to hit taking, over aggressiveness or general attitude towards the game.

Well this has turned into a good debate ... not something I was expecting so soon. heh

This is something that's been niggling me for a while now ... I have been to several site recently that have mixed rules on ricochets and hits .. Some sites do not count ricochets as a hit, but you must declare a 'Gun Hit', where other sites count ricochet as a hit, in which case you are dead and need medic/re-spawn. What is the general consensus on this .. does it make a difference to the game play if they count or not ?

To be honest, If I am unsure if I have been hit or not, I will always call the hit regardless .. there is no shame in being hit .. it doesn't make you elite or a good player not being hit and its part of the fun of airsoft .. plus chicks dig scars .. being hit is 80% of a skirmish day in my opinion .. you will be fair more respected and admired if you call your hits.

This is not intended to start a flame war or point fingers at anybody .. its more an informative yet interesting article I found while browsing Facebook this morning. (Fair amount of reading coming up!) "Call your hits." A phrase commonly uttered at a majority of airsoft fields, most often by younger or newer players. But it is not rare to hear the phrase used by disciplined, experienced players, even if an event's rules request otherwise. Full disclosure, I have, at one point yelled out this often overused phrase. But it would be hard to find someone who plays the sport and has not done so, at one point or another. Recently, I took some time to think on how troublesome the statement can be, and the negative consequences it can cause. It creates a negative experience for everyone. There are many often overlooked factors that play into the situation when a player accuses another of cheating. Factors like range and equipment can often create an scenario where the bb hits the player, and because of fps drop over distance or the thickness of their vest, the target does not feel the hit occur. Whether or not the person was guilty of cheating, accusing them creates an awkward scenario for both parties involved. You, the shooter, view them as a cheater, even if it was an honest oversight on their part, or you just misjudged your range. They will most likely consider you as a hostile person, who they should avoid. This weakens one of the best aspects of the sport, socialization. Alienating one person can also have a domino effect with other people. By putting yourself in a negative mood you become less open to socialization with other players, unless they also want to complain about people not calling hits. It makes it harder for the refs to supervise the games effectively When a ref sees a person cheating, they usually take action against it. When a ref hears a player yelling "call your hits" they usually go and investigate. This means that a ref overseeing an important objective now has to go settle a dispute between players. If something happens at that objective while the ref is gone, it could have negative consequences on the flow of the entire game. While the ref is distracted it could also allow people who are actually cheating to get away with it, and feel confidant to repeat their behavior later. By calling attention to a minor and easily resolvable issue, you potentially make the entire game less enjoyable for a majority of the players involved. By saying it, you rule out inaccuracy By far the largest issue with the phrase I have observed, is that the accuser automatically assumes they are a perfect marksman. I have several times heard an accuser state that "If this where a real gun, they would be calling it." Urge to murder your fellow airsoft aside, this attitude further rules out the possibility that the shot could have been inaccurate. Or, that the gun's range is shorter than where the target is located. A common problem experienced in airsoft is also relevant to this issue. Any amount of foliage can alter or entirely stop a bb mid flight, making a shot perceived as straight and accurate drop short or veer off to the side. This means when an enemy is behind foliage, It can easily appear as if the shot hit them, when it was stopped or deflected by the cover they are behind. The foliage could have also caused a significant fps drop in the bb, causing it not to be felt by the target, especially if they are hit in the gear. The easy solution All three of these issues share one common solution, take more shots towards the target. If you lay down a couple of extra shots, it could be the difference between a successful "kill" or a day of frustration. Taking extra shots Increases the likelihood that that the target is aware they were hit, or that the foliage in your shot's way is removed from the next shot's. Remember, always play safe, respect admins, and be fair. That is all.

One of the best ever CQB Sounding tracks ever! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k830wSv9lW8

Talk about a Blitzkrieg .. the Germans was on a rampage! Still think however that the Netherlands will/should win.

Sounds like a blast .. can I bring the jaffa cakes and hookers ?

I have Insurgency, it is an awesome close to real life first person shooter as you can currently get .. its a mix of Battlefield, COD, ArmA and Counter Strike all rolled into one game, with realistic actions and consequences in that killing someone takes 1-2 shots, not 2984094540503 it does on other games, its very well thought out, great strategy game that keeps you thinking and on your toes .. otherwise you end up dead before you know it.. Very much recommended and available on Steam quite cheap at the moment.

I may take a drive down and see whats cooking .. and not just the pork batches ^^

Only 1 person has mentioned NAE as a viable place .. most of the other recommendations have been in the MIDLANDS .. thats a vast area in the middle of England that is accessible to 75% of the forum users .. give or take .. To those who have not been reading the whole thread, we have also considered splitting the meet up down into 3 separate ones for those too north or too south.. so those in the north can organize something within reachable distance as can those in the midlands and south subsequently ... however these meets would require people to volunteer time to organize something for their fellow members of locality. Besides at the moment NOTHING has been set in stone or planned, this is simply a brain storming idea to see if a meet up could be possible or would be considered by the masses.

I used to play there and forgot all about it .... my bad. Great thinking though!

Now we have our own forum space we can plan and brain storm a little more openly .. Spartan, Asylum and Gunman have been mentioned as possible site candidates along with a few others .. I am however more open to splitting the meets down to locational get together ( North, Midlands, South ) first, to see how they do and then try to organize something larger down the line ... those however are just my personal thoughts.

Following on from the general discussion thread, we now have a set place to discuss and plan meets and events for the future .. Thanks to Dev for setting this up.

You will love the Asylum, I used to marshal for it before I moved away.

I'll send a message to Dev and see what he says ..

That's what I said before ... try and get a forum set up for meetings and then sub-divide for the 3 regions ..

Pre-bought .. for how much ??? Springers are not considered for skirmishes due to their lack of range and single shot .. as its a pistol/side arm. They are however good for plinking tin cans in the back yard or scaring your brother into giving you his pocket money ..

Maybe we can ask Dev to set aside room on the forum for the organisation/discussion of the meet ups, if anyone wants to volunteer in helping get these set up it would be a good step forward.

It might not be a bad idea organising 3 separate get together's for the North/Midlands/South. Maybe delegate 3 people from those areas to organise something local(ish) to them and see about a larger event in the summer next year .. perhaps a 3 way war to see which division is the best ( It's south by the way)

Actually the FPG was only £150 from Black Dragon Airsoft, and I've been playing Airsoft for so long now I no longer care for looks or fashion ... I play with what I feel happy with and like to be different with the pink gun collection, the girlfriend loves it and so do most skirmishers I come across. We all get shot anyways so camo doesn't factor much ... Hence pink.... Innocent laughable fun.

Why Yes ... Yes it is Pinky and Perky.