Dan_W

I think we have a way to go yet before parts like (reliable) MOSFETs and parts become standard. There may be a day when mid range guns can reliably shoot with an 11.1 lipo, but it's a heck of a long a way away before Chinese clones can adjust to this.

Any idea how G&G intermediate range are out of the box?

I think the only reason I want to start upgrading stuff is the horrible whine out of my CYMA gearbox. That's what started this thread more or less. I haven't experience with higher end models yet so I'm not too sure what they are like. I'm hoping to get one of G&G's pneumatic blowback gnus this summer. Hopefully that will cover up the horrible sound a bit.

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I know they are good, very good in fact, but what I mean is EXCELLENT to the point where nothing can be done. Read the article below and it shows the tiny fixes that still can be done to improve. http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/43-longrange-aegs/892-holy-grail-building-your-dmr-aeg.html As the sport gets more popular and technology advances there will be more refinements and new innovations. Look at polarstar engines and r-hop for example. They have been 'recent' improvements and I don't think we are anywhere near the peak of what can be done yet.

I bought a standalone CYMA V3 gearbox and that's what got me on to the idea of this topic

Everything Marilyn Manson at the minute. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPJYnr48yU

When, if ever, do you think the out of the box performance will reach a point where we don't have to do much to them? Or maybe things like correctly shimmed and so on. I realise the problem with tuning in that it takes a while, but surely with advancements in the accuracy of production they could simply know how many shims to put on the gears because they are all precisely the same, and know exactly the correct angle of engagement. I'm using these two as examples. Have you any other ideas on how they could easily be improved with new and upcoming technology?

Three and a half actually.

Instead of painting the stand you could, perhaps, I dunno... two-tone your gun?

Heard the mags are a bit leaky. But it smelled bad so the noob was probs using the wrong gas.

I was watching with my headphones on and to be honest I was looking at my phone during the dark parts... then 3.50 happens. Currently getting a catheter placed. Sent from Erne hospital wifi.

I'm in no real rush at the minute, so I can wait until I find the parts I need. It's more of a little side challenge to build one. I've learned so much techy stuff I would have been scared to try had I spent loads of money on a new AEG. I too am enjoying just messing about with it and if I get it to a usable point I know I will love it like a child.

Supposedly the internals are a bit washy too. Might just keep away from this one

Anyone know how reliable and upgradeable they are or how they perform out of the box?

Anyone know if there is a difference between the one on gunfire and taiwan gun?

Could be the same as the one I linked. They are so tempting.