Rogerborg

First question: have you actually played airsoft? We generally recommend buying an electric carbine or rifle as a first gun, and if you're in the UK, renting first to get a UKARA or equivalent defence so that you can buy something realistic looking.

A data point! Thanks, that's handy. The only reason I haven't already crushed the buy button is that it's natively 11mm CW with a 14mm CCW adaptor, but is going on an R17 with a weird 12mm CW thread that I've already had to convert to 14mm CCW.

Mmm, I have a concern about some teams or squads who are more into the brotherhood-of-bros, dress-up, socialising or LARPing aspects, rather than just playing airsoft. And it's great when the folk who aren't really there to play airsoft pack up and push off in the afternoon, I find the games tend to get more fun. Of course, not all teams. If you're reading this, I'm almost certainly not referring to you.

That's my assumption, but someone may wish to rave or rant about one or the other. I guess: "Which one will be easiest to get replaced when it breaks" is also a valid question.

"5KU": https://airsoftdirect.uk.com/uncategorised/5ku-spitfire-tracer-unit-11mm-cw-14mm-ccw-adapter/ "Ghost": https://www.dkarmaments.co.uk/product/ghost-spitfire-pro-tracer-unit-14mm-ccw/ "Made In China II" "TREYTECH": https://www.amazon.co.uk/TREYTECH-Simulated-Spitfire-Tactical-Automatic/dp/B09DXPCSL8 Any views on whether these are equivalent / clones, or whether there's a brand to go for or avoid, or anything better available (that's actually available)?

Funnily enough, they explicitly exclude toy guns. The only thing they'll ship is "low powered air weapons" (but not imitations). I know that Post Office Counters are happy to accept airsoft guns, and are even happy to sell >£100 compensation for them that Parcel Force say they won't honour, so in the event of something going wrong it would be a merry old mess to sort out. This is why I ship with whoever's cheapest, well packaged (so they can't wreck it), and marked as "sporting goods" (because if they lose it, how are they going to prove otherwise?)

Why can't it be both? Which of these (if any) are legally lethal barrelled firearms, which of them (if any) are actually lethal barrelled firearms, which of them (if any) are not firearms, and which of them (if any) are realistic imitation firearms? BANG, too late, you've already been killed. I've yet to see a persuasive argument or case law on why definitions from multiple separate, unrelated Acts are exclusionary. Note that the definitions added in Policing and Crime Act 2007 for airsoft guns not being firearms apply specifically and only to the Firearms Act 1968, not the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. VCRA 2006 S38 says that a deactivated firearm is not a realistic imitation firearm, but does not otherwise define "firearm", even by reference to the Firearms Act 1968 - and BANG, you're dead again. 1000% agree, our entire body of firearms legislation is a Frankenstein's monster of cobbled together, ill-fitting parts that makes no sense and isn't fit for purpose. However, I fear that any comprehensive consolidation and re-write would be along the lines of "Nothing for nobody. Cope, peasants."

1.88J and 25m MED is a bit different. Sure, it's just a little extra range, but it is extra, and sometimes 5m is all it takes. What I don't understand is running a pistol with an DMR or boltie. A compact AEG gives you a lot more options.

Pretty good day today with Ex-Workmate Eddie at Biohazard. Quick respawns, intense action, good hit taking, lots of pistol play and MP5K Master Race point-blank larks. They even started (almost) on time and kept the lunch and breaks short, we got a fair amount of actual play in. As usual though, the briefs were rushed through and full of "obviously" and "you all know", aimed at the regulars who do all know. If you think people don't need briefed, why are you doing a briefing?

This again. "I've recovered and handled numerous firearms during my police career, and there was nothing in the appearance of the gun that gave me any impression it was anything other than genuine." Sounds like a realistic imitation of a real firearm to me.

You can replace the trigger contacts multiple times for the price of the cheapest mosfet. It's not something to worry about.

It seems like our firearms coppers are well aware that most Realistic Firearms out there are actually Realistic Imitation Firearms. The folk that get (rightfully) slotted are those who are actually shooting live rounds. When gun-Dibble rocks up and finds some Joey giving it "I'll shoot yers, I'l do it, I'll shoot all of yers", they seem inclined to say "ORLY? Have a beanbag to the ballbag, and let's find out". Well done to them for that.

I get that there are folk who turn up to socialise, dress up, show off their collection, flex and banter. I have no problem with that, within reason. What winds me up are site owners who content to hold court with their marshals and regulars rather than cracking on with it. Don't say "5 minutes" if you mean 20, is all I ask.

Maybe whoever sold a RIF to that obvious mental case should be prosecuted, convicted and sentenced. The law-abiding majority are not the problem, and nothing that we do will stop mentalists from abusing the law.

/thread You can get hits at longer range, on targets who helpfully stand still while you figure out where your BBs are hooking, slicing, lobbing or dropping at this exact point in time. Anyone who tells you that their gnu shoots like a laser out to 70m is delusional, or trying to sell it to you.

This. The only thing that regularly grinds my gears is the number of folk who pay to play airsoft, then find every possible excuse to not play airsoft. Smoke breaks, phone breaks, bantering while they should be bombing up, marshals and site owners who would rather chat the day away rather than getting things moving. A "whole day" of airsoft tends to be 10am to 4pm, with a 2 hour lunch and 20-30 minutes between games. We're lucky if we get 3 hours of actual play out of a day.

I'm sincerely sorry to hear that. Could you shoot a pistol off-hand in CQB? I mean, there are folk airsofting in armoured wheelchairs, life finds a way.

@Skara is my freebie. I can like him, and nobody gets to judge me. But yes, Airsoft Hell has one P90, everyone has to fight over it, and it has one mid-cap which only feeds at chrono, never in game.

What battery? How did you charge it? Why do you think that it's charged? When you "put it in the gun" did you connect it securely? Have you checked if the gun has a fuse, and if so is it present, connected, and not pre-blown? These questions aren't intended in any way to denigrate you, they're just basic fault-finding Most airsoft issues are a 5 second fix, once you've put in the hours to find the problem.

Reality is a harsh mistress. The only "problem" here is that there are still sites out there who are chronoing like it's 1999. Can you please tell us which sites didn't spot that your toys were shooting hot, so that I can make a note to avoid them?

Buy it broken "mint", sell it broken "mint", break even?

Perhaps not the most scientastic or replicable, but data points.

It's exactly the same, and the postage is £6.50 versus his £8. https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/tokyo-marui-glk-g34-gbb-pistol Sadly, they're out of sto- no, wait, they have 13 of them. Well, he knows what it's worth, all day long, mate. No chancer's going to mug him off, he wasn't born yesterday. It does bother me a little that folk with that level of mentation are on site with us. Although I rather suspect that doesn't apply here.

Very true if we're talking about dropping heavier BBs into the same toy that shoots 0.2g at 350fps without doing anything else to it. Which is another reason to scoff and flick snot at toys tuned for 0.2g, and sites and retailer who still think in terms of novelty weight BBs. But I'd assume that the folk interested in this thread will be tuning their toys for the BB weight that we want to use, in which case all that matters is that we've sprung and sealed them sufficiently to get 1.1J of linear velocity, as well as sufficient angular. Given that the cheapest stock CYMAs are sprung to produce 1.4-1.5J of linear (on novelty weight BBs) it's not a big ask.