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This type of catering N20 cylinder is at 50bar / 725psi CO2 under pressure is in its liquid state and expands to gas on release in the region of 800psi (But with rapid fire can drop in temperature and go back to liquid) This is partly the reason why paintball HPA regulators and mechanical guns were originally operating at 800psi I don’t know how it would continue to perform in the cylinder or on transfer to a co2 magazine etc for practical use. Assuming it acted like co2 rather than compressed air then it would switch between gas & liquid states, stabilising into its ‘stored’ state and acting like low powered co2 It would be interesting to know the results if you go ahead

It depends on how much / how often you will use air If air is available at the site that you play then that’s the best option. If you need to source your own air then a compressor would be the easiest option, as it will give you the defined pressure. But they do vary in capability. Workshop compressors don’t give enough pressure (and aren’t clean which can be dangerous) There is a very slow option that piggy backs a workshop compressor with a boosting compressor (generally called the shoebox compressor) Professional compressors cost thousands, others have got cheaper (as linked above) Ensure that you are within its operating capacity, that it is maintained and that the air is filtered A cheap & ‘easy’ but requiring physical effort is a stirrup pump. Again it needs to be filtered. This is a fair option for occasional use In between is a dive cylinder. With one of these you are equalizing the pressure between cylinders each time, which slowly drops the source pressure. If you have 3000psi/206bar cylinder then that’s your typical aluminum cylinders maximum. Which means you need to only fill to the minimum that will allow you to play long enough in game and then refill. (eg aim for 2500psi fills to keep it going longer) The larger the dive cylinder is the longer it will take to gradually drop in pressure. If you have a 4500psi/300bar dive cylinder then the initial purchase costs more, but you have 50% more source pressure making. You can then decide to go for 3000psi fills for a while, but if you limit your fills then it will last much longer To fill your playing cylinder you need the appropriate hose fitting for the fill nipple. A compressor or stirrup pump will most likely have the right fitting For a dive cylinder you will need to get a fill clamp adaptor A few of the options are discussed in the following

Was that a bargain price that you paid, or a ‘bargain price’ for the purposes of her indoors ? As in when a team mate commented on the current second hand price of one of his guns ….. “That’s really good as it’s almost what you paid”. He had to bite his tongue when he almost replied as to how that compared with the actual purchase price

@rainyfur The video link I posted literally talks you through and shows the process of making a shotgun blast a flame out of the barrel Anyone with the tiniest bit of a practical minded brain could provide a solution that could apply that and costs pennies. The rest of the video shows the range of different prop guns that could be used and many different ways of ‘live’ SFX including various ways of minimising the risk involved

We tried out one of the multi person catapaults intending to use it to launch across a valley ….. the first test shot (or at least the first one to hit the target) knocked the goggles flying - frame in one direction, lens in another, prop head flying off This sort of thing

I used to be the Army lead in a particular subject area. I’d get at least one call a week with a sob story as to why their problem was special and my 3 answers were: 1) I hear your problem, oh dear how sad never mind. You are in the queue and will get yours sorted along everyone else’s as per priority / resources 2) That’s a shame, I’ll knock up an email endorsing it, and if you call them on Monday everything will be wonderfull But the most common response was number 3 3) You’re in the Navy, call x ”But we’re a bit like the Army and wear green clothes”

Flames don’t come out of guns If you want an effect coming out of a barrel then use a low calibre paintball gun such as .50” or .43”, dry fired with Co2 or air on a cold day and you have gas out of the barrel and of course ….. don’t shoot it towards people even when empty, especially not dry fired co2 near a person There’s at least one person in the UK blind in one eye due to co2 & general residue in the face If you really really must have unrealistic Hollywood gun effects then refer to this

As above the 2.5 joule limit and 8mm plastic applies to airsoft in a specific definition Exceeding that does put things back under firearms legislation, but doesn’t necessarily make something illegal - it could be a low powered air weapon etc Paintball of course exceeds 2.5 joules but fire frangible projectiles. If you fire paintballs or first strikes, within approx 300 and something fps then paintball isn’t exceeding acceptable lethality and is legal (First strikes are a shaped projectiles with a half sphere paintball and were subject to approved testing arranged by an importer) Tag rounds have gone through a few hoops and may or may not be legal, but there have also been other safety concerns (particularly with YouTubers abusing them) and are often likely to be disallowed by sites / organisers or restricted to particular use such as event effects Tennis ball guns can be perfectly legal - but tend to be aimed at the dog owner market with weak springs. (You won’t want one into your eye from a couple of feet away) But we’ve happily used them in a CQB environment for what was supposed to be a comedy weapon but proved to be a players favourite From the video it’s far from dog ball launcher territory! But 40mm launchers have been around a long time, and I’ve had a couple through customs post VCRA (one right in the early days and I managed to justify an import without UKARA based on my declaration) 40mm could still be grey area territory, and they can be used for numerous shell types from BB, paintball and depending on the shell as a booster to tags or nerf rockets etc Having found the price of the Carl Gustav, I won’t be finding out if they pass muster

Magic chrono trees only really tell you that it has been fired with sufficient velocity / energy to reach the tree, and without enough force to knock the tree down

Documentary ? YouTube celebrities can’t qualify for ‘fly on the wall/tree’ observational documentaries, but ‘participational documentaries’ are valid social commentary

Exactly The stated reason is valid, the actual legislation between VCRAs defences & the legal definition of a film would all fit. (and are in actual legislation rather than airsoft skirmishing which is an add on) If I were a retailer then I wouldn’t sell a RIF to a random person on the basis of ‘wanting to make a film’ But looking at the ‘defences’ that some retailers are taking now this is more compliant with the law. I also would prefer that this doesn’t happen, but if the OP can put a plan together, do things in a safe & controlled manner and avoid a public armed response then fair play to him. An alternative that’s not been mentioned, is involving an airsofter / some airsofters to provide equipment & ‘safety expertise’ ….. and talking with some experience as an international male model & TV star ….. as I advised a lady when her sister was interrogating her about this guy she was dating …

Suspended from film school for making a film in a public place with guns - one of them was suspended, presumably the one running that project, and having failed the lesson on planning

It depends on the outcome you are after. Obviously the more you can dismantle & seperate, mask/seal etc the ‘better’ a paint job you could achieve If you want a fully painted factory fresh colour scheme or a US style perfect camouflage job then you want to dismantle as much as possible But if you want some coloured highlights with a pretty design then you can work that around the parts that you are comfortable with disassembling and masking the relevant moving parts, holes etc, or for a classic British field expedient rough & ready camouflage scheme then mask what has to be masked and wave the spray can around Take apart what you can Mask off relevant areas, stuff ‘things’ such as rags, rods etc into the barrel, magazine well etc Prepare the surface as you would normally do - eg cleaning, a bit of rubbing down etc, and then paint lots of thin layers Periodically make sure that anything still assembled that should move still does If you want to preserve the finish then a suitable laquer, clear coat etc will do that If you want ‘wear’ then you can opt for ‘real’ wear as it’s used, or go for the harder option of painting it to appear worn and preserve that in the finish

Will a ping pong firing F432 do instead ? https://youtu.be/f7ga8Du2hv8 https://youtu.be/hk8jsxdgAXo This would be a nice ‘upgrade’ to our Battle Royale tennis ball guns, however I’m not so sure about the velocity and suitability for a CQB kill house of this Carl Gustav version

(As an unrelated / slightly related matter) …… Within paintball the UKPSF (representative body for paintball) have recently gone to a barrister to review legislation as a result of recent dealings with the Home Office & Border Force As a result they have changed their position on the sale of paintball guns from a previous couple of possibilities from the Home Office and now recommend that retailers protect themselves by requiring a UKARA style defence using UKPSF player membership The authorities are paying attention to the sale of gun like things

In which case then you don’t qualify under the terms of users of this forum, and under the legislation would need to be under section 37.2 paragraphs c or d https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/37 c)the production of films (within the meaning of Part 1 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48)_see section 5B of that Act); (d)the production of television programmes (within the meaning of the Communications Act 2003 (c. 21)_see section 405(1) of that Act); 5b goes into copyright, So you could argue that your intent qualifies, as anything you produce that is copyrightable is within 5b (However that could just distinguish the various definitions of the word ‘film’ from ‘a film’) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/section/5B 405(1) goes into better definition of TV programmes as broadcast etc, which https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/405 With any purchase of RIFs it comes down to whether or not you can justify your intent to a seller. As noted earlier the seller faces a considerable fine and potential prison time. I would want to see some form of documentation linking to a production company, and wouldn’t touch an individual with a barge pole. An alternative is via the media department college or university, but they can supply props etc, but as they are interested in the work itself would be happy enough with 2 tones etc (Note that one example I point to is Jesus Christ Superstar, it’s a film of a film of actors making a student show and they have things such as Roman centurions with steal pot helmets and SMGs There is the added risk of things going horribly wrong for you and a further knock on effect for the retailer See the example shown by @Rogerborg

Note that for an airsoft gun purchase any offence under the VCRA is committed by the retailer / seller The question is “Would a retailer accept my claimed Defence at risk of a considerable fine and/or a custodial sentence?” The added problem of ‘I want to make a film’ is those who have done so in the past attempting to claim waving a gun in the park for YouTube is filmmaking - and ‘almost proper’ filmmakers getting reported to the police for guns in public. The odds are increased if you getting ‘caught’ and pointing towards your retailer An offence under this section shall be punishable, on summary conviction— (a)in England and Wales, with imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or with a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or with both; and (b)in Scotland, with imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or with a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or with both. A level 5 fine is unlimited (a level 4 fine is limited at £2500, and until 2015 a level 5 fine was up to £5000) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36 https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/

Are you a film maker working under a production company with various forms of insurance, indemnity etc?

The future is in the past, they weren’t all they were cracked up to be Spring powered boots worked out better than ‘rocket’ pistons

I’ve far too much to carry around, but I’ve carried many combinations I began carrying main and pistol, on a thigh holster But on the ‘just in case’ basis it was just extra weight If my main broke then I would be better off going out and fixing it However sometimes I would choose to go to pistol for a moment of fun On one stalemate line across a dry river bed I was observed to strip off my gear, taking off my vest, put down my main and walked off People wondered what I was up to and ignored me as no threat …… until some demented idiot came running back through the opposition line firing off single pistol shots after having crossed over in the distance There was the time at a rental game that I went out with just pistol, but failed to change 12 gram after being too busy chatting. Discovering that I was useless I did the sacrificial distraction running to the fort, but nobody shot me So I arrive at the fort, leant over waving an empty pistol and asked if anyone fancied surrendering - capturing the front half of a fort without firing a shot In defending a fort, the first time I was to use a pistol in game, I was sat in the corner of a tower covering the back door As the marshals began the final countdown to game end I emptied my main and couldn’t be bothered to reload ….. I then noticed a head pop around the door as they saw me put my gun down …. And in the 5,4,3… count suddenly three players run in the door …… so I grab the pistol sat beside me and pop pop pop, three guys are stopped in their footsteps

I did of course give that as something to consider If it sounds too good to be true then it usually is, and at the price shown probably was too good to be true and either some replica or something stolen Of course sometimes there are lucky purchases made of items very cheaply and legally where an easy sale can be made As @Johndaniel4863has also mentioned there are stolen goods going around, and recently on here was a reminder of goods going out of the QMs back door that found their way into Airsoft plus unsavory overseas buyers

Or ‘kick’ starting by hand with the other holding a spark plug against the engine to check the spark ? That put some energy into myself But in games there are tiny little moments where I still tell the tales 10, 15 or more years later

Exactly Not a win, but a case story of PayPal rules working and an example of the needs to ensure everything is documented, described properly et The PayPal perception of protecting the buyer is generally a myth, but the protection of each side is dependant on doing things ‘properly’. Some sellers are naive and don’t help themselves and lose very quickly to the unscrupulous When there’s a genuine problem there aren’t true winners, just an optimum result

Just keep it in mind that there are ‘Defences’ under legislation: Reenactment, museums, film & TV, Crown work, skirmishing etc These defences do not rely on any specific scheme, but for sales in the UK it’s up to the seller to comply So if you don’t have a UKARA number it is still possible to get yourself something to enable a purchase from one retailer or another I would definitely not recommend gambling on different methods to import as it all comes down to your responsibility - even ‘proper’ defences can fail at the border

Exactly We enjoy playing games about shooting people and getting shot at consensually for fun Once in a while I get my kicks from spraying a load of balls all over the place, mostly I like to sneak around a bit and fire off a few shots. More often than not I’ll get the perfect opportunity for a surprise shot but instead I’ll see how much closer I can get before anyone notices - which 9/10 times results in me getting shot at close range by a startled target. If you’re after the one in ten success, or the adrenaline rush of almost succeeding along with another war story then take out whatever’s going to be the most fun If you’re going to be demoralised if you don’t get your fair share of kills then load up with a reasonably ranged gun that has a decent rate of fire, can sustain a fair firefight and you can hit a barn door with Come out of the game smiling and you’ve won the day