Tommikka

Exactly The stated reason is valid, the actual legislation between VCRAs defences & the legal definition of a film would all fit. (and are in actual legislation rather than airsoft skirmishing which is an add on) If I were a retailer then I wouldn’t sell a RIF to a random person on the basis of ‘wanting to make a film’ But looking at the ‘defences’ that some retailers are taking now this is more compliant with the law. I also would prefer that this doesn’t happen, but if the OP can put a plan together, do things in a safe & controlled manner and avoid a public armed response then fair play to him. An alternative that’s not been mentioned, is involving an airsofter / some airsofters to provide equipment & ‘safety expertise’ ….. and talking with some experience as an international male model & TV star ….. as I advised a lady when her sister was interrogating her about this guy she was dating …

Suspended from film school for making a film in a public place with guns - one of them was suspended, presumably the one running that project, and having failed the lesson on planning

It depends on the outcome you are after. Obviously the more you can dismantle & seperate, mask/seal etc the ‘better’ a paint job you could achieve If you want a fully painted factory fresh colour scheme or a US style perfect camouflage job then you want to dismantle as much as possible But if you want some coloured highlights with a pretty design then you can work that around the parts that you are comfortable with disassembling and masking the relevant moving parts, holes etc, or for a classic British field expedient rough & ready camouflage scheme then mask what has to be masked and wave the spray can around Take apart what you can Mask off relevant areas, stuff ‘things’ such as rags, rods etc into the barrel, magazine well etc Prepare the surface as you would normally do - eg cleaning, a bit of rubbing down etc, and then paint lots of thin layers Periodically make sure that anything still assembled that should move still does If you want to preserve the finish then a suitable laquer, clear coat etc will do that If you want ‘wear’ then you can opt for ‘real’ wear as it’s used, or go for the harder option of painting it to appear worn and preserve that in the finish

Will a ping pong firing F432 do instead ? https://youtu.be/f7ga8Du2hv8 https://youtu.be/hk8jsxdgAXo This would be a nice ‘upgrade’ to our Battle Royale tennis ball guns, however I’m not so sure about the velocity and suitability for a CQB kill house of this Carl Gustav version

(As an unrelated / slightly related matter) …… Within paintball the UKPSF (representative body for paintball) have recently gone to a barrister to review legislation as a result of recent dealings with the Home Office & Border Force As a result they have changed their position on the sale of paintball guns from a previous couple of possibilities from the Home Office and now recommend that retailers protect themselves by requiring a UKARA style defence using UKPSF player membership The authorities are paying attention to the sale of gun like things

In which case then you don’t qualify under the terms of users of this forum, and under the legislation would need to be under section 37.2 paragraphs c or d https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/37 c)the production of films (within the meaning of Part 1 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48)_see section 5B of that Act); (d)the production of television programmes (within the meaning of the Communications Act 2003 (c. 21)_see section 405(1) of that Act); 5b goes into copyright, So you could argue that your intent qualifies, as anything you produce that is copyrightable is within 5b (However that could just distinguish the various definitions of the word ‘film’ from ‘a film’) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/section/5B 405(1) goes into better definition of TV programmes as broadcast etc, which https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/405 With any purchase of RIFs it comes down to whether or not you can justify your intent to a seller. As noted earlier the seller faces a considerable fine and potential prison time. I would want to see some form of documentation linking to a production company, and wouldn’t touch an individual with a barge pole. An alternative is via the media department college or university, but they can supply props etc, but as they are interested in the work itself would be happy enough with 2 tones etc (Note that one example I point to is Jesus Christ Superstar, it’s a film of a film of actors making a student show and they have things such as Roman centurions with steal pot helmets and SMGs There is the added risk of things going horribly wrong for you and a further knock on effect for the retailer See the example shown by @Rogerborg

Note that for an airsoft gun purchase any offence under the VCRA is committed by the retailer / seller The question is “Would a retailer accept my claimed Defence at risk of a considerable fine and/or a custodial sentence?” The added problem of ‘I want to make a film’ is those who have done so in the past attempting to claim waving a gun in the park for YouTube is filmmaking - and ‘almost proper’ filmmakers getting reported to the police for guns in public. The odds are increased if you getting ‘caught’ and pointing towards your retailer An offence under this section shall be punishable, on summary conviction— (a)in England and Wales, with imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or with a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or with both; and (b)in Scotland, with imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or with a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or with both. A level 5 fine is unlimited (a level 4 fine is limited at £2500, and until 2015 a level 5 fine was up to £5000) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36 https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/

Are you a film maker working under a production company with various forms of insurance, indemnity etc?

The future is in the past, they weren’t all they were cracked up to be Spring powered boots worked out better than ‘rocket’ pistons

I’ve far too much to carry around, but I’ve carried many combinations I began carrying main and pistol, on a thigh holster But on the ‘just in case’ basis it was just extra weight If my main broke then I would be better off going out and fixing it However sometimes I would choose to go to pistol for a moment of fun On one stalemate line across a dry river bed I was observed to strip off my gear, taking off my vest, put down my main and walked off People wondered what I was up to and ignored me as no threat …… until some demented idiot came running back through the opposition line firing off single pistol shots after having crossed over in the distance There was the time at a rental game that I went out with just pistol, but failed to change 12 gram after being too busy chatting. Discovering that I was useless I did the sacrificial distraction running to the fort, but nobody shot me So I arrive at the fort, leant over waving an empty pistol and asked if anyone fancied surrendering - capturing the front half of a fort without firing a shot In defending a fort, the first time I was to use a pistol in game, I was sat in the corner of a tower covering the back door As the marshals began the final countdown to game end I emptied my main and couldn’t be bothered to reload ….. I then noticed a head pop around the door as they saw me put my gun down …. And in the 5,4,3… count suddenly three players run in the door …… so I grab the pistol sat beside me and pop pop pop, three guys are stopped in their footsteps

I did of course give that as something to consider If it sounds too good to be true then it usually is, and at the price shown probably was too good to be true and either some replica or something stolen Of course sometimes there are lucky purchases made of items very cheaply and legally where an easy sale can be made As @Johndaniel4863has also mentioned there are stolen goods going around, and recently on here was a reminder of goods going out of the QMs back door that found their way into Airsoft plus unsavory overseas buyers

Or ‘kick’ starting by hand with the other holding a spark plug against the engine to check the spark ? That put some energy into myself But in games there are tiny little moments where I still tell the tales 10, 15 or more years later

Exactly Not a win, but a case story of PayPal rules working and an example of the needs to ensure everything is documented, described properly et The PayPal perception of protecting the buyer is generally a myth, but the protection of each side is dependant on doing things ‘properly’. Some sellers are naive and don’t help themselves and lose very quickly to the unscrupulous When there’s a genuine problem there aren’t true winners, just an optimum result

Just keep it in mind that there are ‘Defences’ under legislation: Reenactment, museums, film & TV, Crown work, skirmishing etc These defences do not rely on any specific scheme, but for sales in the UK it’s up to the seller to comply So if you don’t have a UKARA number it is still possible to get yourself something to enable a purchase from one retailer or another I would definitely not recommend gambling on different methods to import as it all comes down to your responsibility - even ‘proper’ defences can fail at the border

Exactly We enjoy playing games about shooting people and getting shot at consensually for fun Once in a while I get my kicks from spraying a load of balls all over the place, mostly I like to sneak around a bit and fire off a few shots. More often than not I’ll get the perfect opportunity for a surprise shot but instead I’ll see how much closer I can get before anyone notices - which 9/10 times results in me getting shot at close range by a startled target. If you’re after the one in ten success, or the adrenaline rush of almost succeeding along with another war story then take out whatever’s going to be the most fun If you’re going to be demoralised if you don’t get your fair share of kills then load up with a reasonably ranged gun that has a decent rate of fire, can sustain a fair firefight and you can hit a barn door with Come out of the game smiling and you’ve won the day

Other than not touching with a barge pole there are two follow up actions: 1) Forget about it 2) Notify the police / RMPs From the information there are two likely possibilities - nothing exists and money will disappear, or there is an open door at the back of someone’s armoury The RMPs would be interested in the 2nd possibility

It should bounce / funnel into the back and down the pole Of course reality might not always occur

The simplest answer is to just get what already exists for the task, and will probably also be cheaper than making an alternative with PVC pipe An airgun pellet catcher is under £15: https://www.amazon.co.uk/pellet-catcher/s?k=pellet+catcher Or you could build something similar with a drain hopper which will cost less, at £10 or less, but it’s made of plastic so will end up getting broken at some point, and doesn’t have the in built angles in its design to reduce the risk of bounce back https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-universal-hopper-65-68mm-black/13847 To save a plastic system from being broken, and also to cut the noise of any material including a ‘proper’ pellet catcher is to line it with foam, material etc Other systems with varying levels of ‘temporary’ will be a box or bucket lined with something to absorb the unpack

He was also up to his tricks in paintball, which I’m sure was quite a long time ago One particular forum he had a go out no longer exists, but on another he is one of the people responsible for the implementation of certain rules. I can see some rule changes in 2018, but also references to rule changes as far back as 2014, 2013 and 2011 I’m going to hazard a guess that his activities dated back at least as far as the 2013 & 2014 ones - and I’m inclined to say that 2011 was an early attempt also related to him The only thing that makes me unsure was that there was also the ‘Sutton Coldfield triangle’ as opposed to NI Behind the scenes moderators between forums were keeping each other up to date on suspicions etc and Glennie was a frequently occurring name that still triggers the hairs on the back of my neck PPS. If you Google his name you can find mentions and a photo

Are you me in the past? 30+ years ago an account was being signed over to me. Flicking through the pages, good, good, good ….. pistols ? Why do we have pistols? We don’t Why do we have pistols that ‘we don’t have’ on an account? Where did they go, when? Prove it …

It gets seen as a grey area, but the law affects the purchase / sale to over 18s only Possession / ownership isn’t covered by that so it is seen as legal for an airsoft to be gifted to you before you are 18 There must be no payment or other ‘compensation’ otherwise it wouldn’t qualify as being gifted Though gifting is seen as a grey area, in a slightly unrelated / semi related situation recently in paintball the UKPSF (recognised representative body for paintball) have consulted a barrister on legislation and ‘gifting’ to under 18s was seen as legal PS I trust that you are / will be over 14? There could be other legislation that could affect possession if you are under 14

This is setting the scene for free advertising when the papers pick up the story. The original post in a paintball forum dropped the name of a paintball site owner who was going to make all the arrangements This site owner is responsible for gems such as “job vacancy for paintball bullet tester” on a (pro rata) salary of £40,000 Which translated to zero hours contracted gopher who gets their photo taken being shot to be sent to the Daily Mail under the next headline “Student gets £40,000 job as paintball bullet tester” However to answer the original question - yes, airsoft hurts a lot less than paintball A suggested next route would be to enquire if the Gel blaster community is big enough yet to have a forum, then the Nerf tournament community

@Johndaniel4863will probably be a good help here. I would be inclined to tick for ‘RIF parts’ but stress the parts element for shroud only, and avoid too much in the UKARA /Defence area other than making it clear that it is for parts only which don’t require a defence Its interesting that the paintball section only refers to making a velocity compliance statement, and the airsoft skirmisher section is UKARA specific. Whether or not a paintball gun can be a RIF or not is a different discussion - a Home Office letter on that exists, and isn’t entirely conclusive

You had me worried there My ‘attachment view’ is still working, and I’m at about 78%

If both radios are tuned to the frequency’s within the licence then they can talk to each other