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Note that ‘gifting’ has to be a gift. If you identify any friend with UKARA that is willing to be the middleman of a sale of a RIF (or also an IF) to a 16 year old then they are committing an offence Under 18 you cannot buy an IF or RIF But you can be given an IF or RIF which is where ‘gifting’ comes in. That is why parents usually get referenced If a UKARA holding adult wants to give a decent quality RIF to a 16 year old then be worried about their motivations
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…. Or in my case back in 2007/2008 responding to a RIF declaration that summed up as ‘it’s not airsoft’ ….. and then when receiving my package discovering the airsoft specifics that I had added onto the order
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A couple of things: The orange tip mentioned by the OP is irrelevant, that comes under US requirements for toys. In the UK it’s either a RIF or it’s an IF. An orange tip is less than 50% so it’s a RIF it’s a superfluous orange tip The VCrA covers sale (both retail and private, manufacture, modify (which includes painting, changing parts etc) and import The acts ‘defences’ indirectly includes ‘Airsoft skirmishing’ …… (by statutory instrument which supplements the actual legislation) UKARA is the main scheme recognised to justify the ‘skirmisher defence’ When it’s a sale the decision is made by the seller, and they make the assumption that their records will be good enough if a case comes back to a sale that they made When it’s an import it’s down to customs and/or the importing carrier. Any package could be handled purely by an approved carrier, they may either refer to customs, or customs may pick out packages (or full container loads) themselves Importing has many risks, it could sail through, it could get caught up in red tape, it could be flagged and challenged, it could be refused (and returned, seized, destroyed etc) You can challenge In the end for this case there was ‘just’ a delay
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I wear glasses, but my eyesight is ‘good enough’ to play - my target may be a bit blurred and I could have to lead in my shots or get closer, so I have tried playing with glasses & inserts but rarely bother I don’t fancy poking my eyes about so have never tried contact lenses Common choices I’ve seen are: Glasses - Dye I4s seem popular in airsoft but personally I’d recommend the VForce Grills/Grillz …. Which have been popular sellers for many years and only recently had a v2 come out. (I have not had hands on to the v2, but it’s effectively a 2022 ‘upgrade’ to the v1) Grills have a slit in either side of the foam to accommodate glasses Depending on the goggle/glasses combination it can take a bit of practice of comfortably put them on / off (especially the taking off) without going into a tangle Depending on your glasses it may be worth getting a small framed playing set. Take your goggles to the opticians or use an online ‘try before you buy’ optician such as glasses direct (order 4 sample frames, try them with goggles at home, pick the most comfortable combination) Prescription inserts work, there are a couple of brands that market themselves to paintball & airsoft but exactly the same thing is widely available for skiing. Look online, pick a recommended insert style for your goggle type and send in your prescription Local opticians will most likely be able to do them I have a set, which are fine. But I have a lot of goggles which means my prescription insert is in the goggles that I chose for a particular game, and have only been played in once or twice. They don’t change the situation for me enough to swap to whichever goggles I choose at any one game Contact lenses From the users that I know, disposable ‘daily’ lenses are the way to go now rather than messing with cleaning and storing. If you wear them occasionally then a months box will obviously last longer
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On a practical basis it’s not going to make much difference whether you signed up as a sole trader as yourself or a group as an association. e.g. If I signed up naming an association as the team TFD for gameplay and game organising - then it would be the team li licence covering all members plus on any particular day I can hand radios to hangers on that are playing with us or helpers with running a particular game Or if I signed up under my photography as a sole trader IWAC it would only be my licence - but I could have helpers that I want to use it for the day Note that I have neither - we have considered it but have stuck to PMR and existing site systems. Good enough for our purposes and the only time we have had range issues with PMR it was also due to terrain which also affected more powerful licenced site raidios, which we work around by relay and/or mobile phone Again not relevant to the licenced OP….We also have someone in comms who would not mess with OfCom - as above ‘sensible’ law breaking won’t be found out and ‘nobody’ cares, other than those like my teammate who would care about being caught with particularly reputational damage to him professionally
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Most efficient storage for rifles in a Studio flat.
Tommikka replied to Asomodai's topic in General Discussion
He’s going to overdose on tinder and doesn’t want to scare them off as he gets them in the door Or being a studio flat it’s pretty much open plan and he doesn’t have a spare room to put them out of sight of anyone who visits On a legal basis there’s either general visibility if the flat is overlooked and doesn’t want someone calling in the police because they saw guns, or there is also a potential offence of having insecure airweapons if a minor ever accesses the property (Technically ‘air weapon’ doesn’t necessarily apply to airsoft anymore due to Firearms act redefinition of airsoft, but it’s good practice anyway) -
The guidance notes via the link below would generally cover airsoft users as a team (under incorporated association of people with a common interest) or an individual. An individual won’t have much use of a radio channel. But under either you can have handsets configured to an appropriate channel and let some extra people use the same channel to talk to them for the day under your licence (you could hand them a handset from your collection, let them Programme in your frequency, or as there are common frequencies which others may be licenced to use just agree on the one to use today - and conversely to use different ones so you are separate) Incorporated Association Is a group of people who share a common interest. Individual or Sole Trader Any person may apply for a licence in his or her own name. If the person runs a business solely in his or her own name then that person is known as the sole proprietor of that business. Legally that person is wholly liable for all aspects of that business and all its obligations. Thus the person will need a WT Act Licence in their name to operate a radio system which states the applicant/ licensee’s name. If the person holds a trading name, then this may also be stated on the licence but it is important that this is not substituted in the place of the individual’s name. Off topic as the OP already has a licence but PMR is the easy solution with free to use unlicenced channels, and again can be used together or seperately among groups (I used to set PMR ranges between factions and let them pick particular channels ….. and I could then be nosy and listen in with the very old fashioned cheap handsets that could pick up all the subfrequencies)
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I’ve seen prices as cheap as £15 (a few years ago) but would expect £30 to £40 A test centre can slim down the price when you’re bringing it in and collecting later, so £22 is a fair price The principle remains the same for larger cylinders and one of the IDEST centres will be able to do it. There are different regimes for diving cylinders that are used to dive, with some references below about hydro and visual inspection cycles for diving and just hydro testing for surface cylinders (random test centre from Google) http://teigndivingcentre.co.uk/prices/cylinder-testing-prices
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Yes/maybe - that can be unlimited due to the ISO standard Scan around for anything else, you have the born date of 2016/11, and as long as they have not sneaked in a death date then you do have an unlimited cylinder. You can get tests done by either a test centre or a middle man. The preferred test centre is Armourlite/HPAC as they are the lead air providers to paintball (and where applicable airsoft) sites http://hpac-armourlite.co.uk Any IDEST approved centre can run tests (dive shops often take in testing, either as a test centre in their own right or they pass them through a test centre) https://www.sita.org.uk/idest/idest_members.php (But as you’ve found not every dive shop is friendly - I used a dive place in Salisbury once with a friendly guy, they didn’t do testing but held on to it and sent it as part of a few bottles in a batch. (I was in no hurry) But when I went back with others a different guy didn’t like paintballers and according to him they never test out bottles (So I hung onto them and dropped them off with HPAC at an event to pick up at another)
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Yes - a 5 year cycle is correct If it’s Pi marked then look for the summary markings (example below) But there could be a variation on total life. The default has always been 15 year maximum, but a new ISO design could have an unlimited lifetime. However many manufacturers are producing ISO cylinders with a 15 year life marked, so don’t have unlimited life (I will turn a blind eye to a good condition Pi aluminum that has 5 years printed rather than 10 which will run off, but won’t be turning a blind eye to fibre markings) There should be another set of markings, like on here: Note on the top dial that this still has air in it, but it is currently out of test and cannot be refilled. Near the middle is the Pi gate symbol, so it’s UK & European legal To the right of that is ‘2010/01’ (manufactured January 2010, and was therefore due for testing in 2015) Left and down a bit is the final date of 2025/01 (therefore it becomes a paperweight from February 2025) The big yellow sticker shows testing at July 2016 (which means it could not be used for all of 2015 and half of 2016, and also that the test expired in July 2021) I can technically use the air that is in there, but cannot fill it as the test has expired. When I get around to testing I will not get a further 5 years as it’s final date is 2025 I’m going to say that they are wrong Under 48ci and I agree with them The other point they might have meant could be that with the cost of new vs testing that it’s not worth testing a 48ci aluminum The guru is Trevor of HPAC (There is a technical element on the legal status ….. TPED compliance affects the filling and transporting) If you’re not commercial (and do not have a company car) then you can wiggle your way out of transporting If you manage to self fill then that’s down to you, but a site cannot (should not) permit you to fill an out of date cylinder Back in the day some paintball sites turned a blind eye to scuba self fills in the car park of US specification fibre cylinders - they would refuse it at the site fill station but ignore use on the field
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That’s aluminium not steel (Actusl steel bottles were a thing) Yours is therefore valid for 10 years from July 2016 (2016/07) But the printing may still show a contradictory 5 year due date
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‘Under 1 litre’ is wrong A 48ci cylinder is subject to testing, which is about 0.78litres What cylinder type/size do you have? What a site will accept may vary, but in the UK: an aluminium 3000psi cylinder has a test cycle of 10 years, but have generally been marked as 5 years. A ‘standard’ aluminum 3000psi is sized at 0.48ci A 13ci aluminum 3000psi cylinder is test exempt and has an unlimited life, subject to visual checks TPED regulations cover the EU & UK legal requirements and cylinders under these have the Pi mark Trevor of Armoulite/HPAC is an authoritative contact, can confirm status and do the testing as an IDEST centre
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Most efficient storage for rifles in a Studio flat.
Tommikka replied to Asomodai's topic in General Discussion
I was considering responding with the one liner you do have too much time on your hands (Unless readers got the context then the one liner response might have liked slightly odd!!!!) -
Most efficient storage for rifles in a Studio flat.
Tommikka replied to Asomodai's topic in General Discussion
I know a man who is quite adept at designing ISO conversions, we’ve spent/invested a good sum of taxpayers money getting some produced for various solutions Very strong point there - store appropriately, safely & securely. Then add those in context when travelling and 99% of issues that come up are solved Hiding and stored ‘out of obvious sight’ can be two very different things Personal circumstances will vary, but I’m assuming the OP wants a good ‘out of obvious sight’ solution rather than surreptitious hiding The local Bobby is aware that I’ve a good stash of various guns that could look attractive to ‘illegal doers’ and could spark off an armed response if seen out where they shouldn’t -
Most efficient storage for rifles in a Studio flat.
Tommikka replied to Asomodai's topic in General Discussion
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Regarding the hydro test lifecycle: The norm that you will mostly see is that aluminum 3000psis have been marked with a 5 year cycle, and unlimited lifetime if they are tested. (due to the cost of testing vs buying new it’s not necessarily worth doing) But in the UK their legal requirement is a 10 year cycle, and I’ve noticed that retailers are now mentioning this on listings For compact aluminum’s such as 13ci there is an exemption, they do not need to be tested as long as they are visually good When 13cis first came to the UK the printed markings have shown a 5 year due date, but a recent purchase does not If you turn up to an event and I’m the air checker then I would permit use of a 48ci 3000 for 10 years after its stamped manufacture date, and a 13ci of any age (as long as they have UK/EU markings) For fibre wraps the general standard has been a 5 year test cycle and maximum 15 year life, and due to their cost it is worth hydro testing There is a newer ISO type which can have an unlimited lifetime, but still a 5 year test cycle - but most seen in life are showing a 15 year maximum printed by the manufacturer
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Shots will vary depending on efficiency, but in airsoft you should get ‘plenty’ per fill As mentioned, o rings are the main cause or cure to air problems. Look after them as in the manuals and use the same types as the manufacturer when replacing. The most common is basic black, which just need very light grease and cost Pennie’s when bought in bulk on the common sizes But as long as you have a basic spares set with your kit then that will do you until you learn your systems particular needs For air cylinders the best value for money is the standard 48ci aluminium 3000psi cylinder …. Expect to pay £30 to £40 A 13ci is more compact, but costs about the same A fibre 4500psi costs more and comes in wide ranges of size and shape. Expect to pay £150 These have the benefit of taking 4500psi fills of available (about 50% more shots … but are not essential if you can get fills on site)
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Note that these sales are for the software only. The pictures are examples and they tell you which parts you need to build the devices. The software is sold compiled and any buyer needs to run some scripts in advance to provide the seller with internal codes to enable the software to be compiled to match your hardware. Fair play to the seller, but it’s a small market. A reasonably technical person could build and code their own devices, and there is open source code and demos there for free - the seller is marketing their game modes and device design We build our own, with our tech guy building professional standard ones and me experimenting with less professional ones …… (and ours aren’t for sale, as they are designed around our game modes for our events) -
I have done this on both sides of the camera. I have the perfect face for modelling work with a mask on The ideal location is on a site, but even that can get people calling in about suspicious activity when the site is normally closed. A remote location always becomes the most occupied public area as soon as you begin to do anything. It won’t hurt to let the local police know what you are doing, and to put up some signs. If you really are satisfied that it’s out of the way enough, that you will be quick and unobtrusive then you can just go ahead. But I guarantee that ramblers, dogger, bird watchers and a music festival will all suddenly arrive as you pull out the pistol
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VCRA Section 38 does state ‘real firearm’, but does not exclude unreal / sci fi firearms etc. With 38.7a covering an actual real firearm, but 38.7b the ‘appearance of a category of firearms’ If someone sees it and thinks it is real then it meets the VCRA definition of a RIF unless it gets covered as an IF by the design age, colour or size (Star Wars wasn’t the best example as their blasters are real firearms with extra things - Sterling SMG, Mauser, MG34 etc, but others could be those from Aliens etc which are ‘unique’ sci fi guns but still tend to have a basis on real designs … the pulse rifle being part Spas shotgun in a shroud) The underlying solution is of course to bag them in public and never find out what the law thinks it is Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm” 38 (1)In sections 36 and 37 “realistic imitation firearm” means an imitation firearm which— (a)has an appearance that is so realistic as to make it indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from a real firearm; and (b)is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique. (2)For the purposes of this section, an imitation firearm is not (except by virtue of subsection (3)(b)) to be regarded as distinguishable from a real firearm for any practical purpose if it could be so distinguished only— (a)by an expert; (b)on a close examination; or (c)as a result of an attempt to load or to fire it. (3)In determining for the purposes of this section whether an imitation firearm is distinguishable from a real firearm— (a)the matters that must be taken into account include any differences between the size, shape and principal colour of the imitation firearm and the size, shape and colour in which the real firearm is manufactured; and (b)the imitation is to be regarded as distinguishable if its size, shape or principal colour is unrealistic for a real firearm. 38.7 In this section— “colour” is to be construed in accordance with subsection (9); “de-activated firearm” means an imitation firearm that consists in something which— (a) was a firearm; but (b) has been so rendered incapable of discharging a shot, bullet or other missile as no longer to be a firearm; “real firearm” means— (a) a firearm of an actual make or model of modern firearm (whether existing or discontinued); or (b) something falling within a description which could be used for identifying, by reference to their appearance, the firearms falling within a category of actual modern firearms which, even though they include firearms of different makes or models (whether existing or discontinued) or both, all have the same or a similar appearance.
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We agree to disagree on a few of the fine points, and ideally we can continue on that basis as it would ultimately be a court case that answers the question of interpreting legislation on those points. For ‘frangibility’ there is no reference in the legislation, but it is on that point that the home office have corresponded with the UKPSF referencing ‘frangibility’ of a paintball in line with ‘lethal barrelled weapons in legislation. On that basis Gel blasters would sit in with frangibilty, but as you say they would need to be a firearm ‘Firearm’ and ‘gun’ are thought to be dirty words, but they do carry the ‘protection’ of being defined in legislation and don’t require licences/certificates …. (Except of course NI & Scotland with other categories & requirements) ’Marker’ is a term I dislike, it was ‘popularised’ by Americans on a PC basis and has an incorrect urban history that it was the original name in paintball (As soon as we went away from actual oil based paint they ceased to have their ‘marking’ function and had always been ‘paint marking guns’ / ‘paint marking pistols’ etc Its either pointless if people I know what it is or a secret code to hide from the scary word ‘gun’, and if you’re using that secret code then it can backfire because the other party then sees a gun You have a good argument that a firearm could be a realistic imitation of another firearm, but I’ll still argue against it … and of course, have done on the basis that a firearm is a firearm and not an imitation of a firearm which might look like another firearm ‘Realistic’ of course being in the definition that someone might think it is real, which brings in fictional guns as opposed to looking the same as a real one
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….. and on their information / FAQ page they refer to frangibility plus that they are not replicas …. Frangibility has been paintballs get out clause for many years on the basis that they are air weapons / firearms and therefore not replicas, but a recent review by a barrister on behalf of the UKPSF recommended no longer relying on that one. The are selling realistic colours and with orange tips, which does not exempt from RIF definition. Unless they are sufficiently under sized then they have made a rod for their own back by claiming not to be RIFs, but have also slipped in the word ‘skirmishing’ Australia and parts of the US have problems with gel blasters, so there’s an industry here that’s potentially going to grow and be used by people/children who get themselves into areas that could cause issues