ImTriggerHappy

£1500 to build? really?

Agreed but doesn't mean that the one site that has it on sale is always checked so valuation is generally done on average retail.

Disagree because it is not like a seller should have to check every site just to find if it is on sale somewhere. What next daily price checks in case something has changed? If you know something is on sale point it out to the seller when making an offer to drop the price but sale prices are not the norm.

Just to point out TM build quality is just cheaply made parts assembled by a low paid complete stranger who might have woke up that morning hung over and hating the world. Personally if new I would buy a specna, as for a lot less money I can put together a gun that out performs a TM on every front.

The €160 is not a normal price the normal retail in the UK is £200/220 average. Everything is always on sale somewhere so I would just base off normal price. Taking all the parts and offsetting the cost of them against what is removed my pricing is right-ish. Things like the Titan keep 2/3rds same as sights and accessories. Only cosumable parts like rubbers, batteries, mags really should drop to half. The part the people don't work out is things like you swap the barrel for a £50 one but the stock was is £25 to replace so you only add 2/3rds of the £25 difference not the whole £50. Not a lot actually gets 2/3rds lately anyway.

This is fuckin hilarious. True value of the gun when you offset the cost of parts removed to parts added is £335/350 second hand (on a good day) so £400 is not a actually a million miles away compared to some adverts on here lately. But @Dan Quadling the hostility is off the charts so chill the fuck out and explain your advert error instead of just chucking your teddies.

Another plus point is the seller is not a cockwomble

Airsoft metres are a magical thing they single handedly prove wormhole theory.

Best to ask @Cody Smart as he obviously knows way more about putting together a gun than I do.

Yes and no. There are internet sites and even tv shows dedicated to catching chancers in all walks of life as ripping people off is frowned upon. But in the airsoft community it seems that people think it is ok to take advantage of people and it is their own fault when they fall foul of a con merchant. I can't do that personally as it shows a level of character that is abhorrent to me. The problem with this sort of thing is the breakdown is bollocks. £220 for the gun? There is barely anything left accept the receiver and a&k receivers are meh at best so really it is 50 quid. SHS and ZCI are often cheaper than the original parts so when you swap you add no value at all. If you fit Riot gears and a retro arms box and other expensive high quality bits you expect to get some return but very little on that build fits that list.

What worries me is the poor bugger who falls for it and gives twice what it's worth.

You know when people say you should have PMed before putting them in here? This is why there is no point.

Varies hugely depending on your setup.

While I am always taking the piss about tabletop gamers I do appreciate the effort people put into painting this stuff. Some of the results people get definitely qualifies it as art.

What virginity stealing by proxy? Fucking hell whatever next! You obviously caught me on a good day as I can be a right cock when someone irks me. I looked through your other listings first and the prices were all reasonable so I guessed this one was just mispriced through error of judgement not you being one of the dodgy ones. So didn't see the need to make anything of it.

Why is your Dad giving it back?

To be fair bud you came out on the attack so it is fair that people come back. I do agree that a private message first is best but I think with huge influx of sellers joining and trying to flog stuff for ridiculous prices people are very quick to jump on stuff as it has been a bit much. Best response from you if you have genuinely over priced something you thought was worth more is just to ask what you think it is really worth and adjust your price. It isn't just new members falling foul of it just ask @AK47frizzle about his half a HK45.

People get targeted when they put up stuff for a silly price. People are just looking out for the newer players who have no clue what they are looking and regularly get ripped off. Anyone who gets salty for ending up on here needs to step back and remember it is their fault for over pricing in the first place. As for the offer button that is for when people are haggling as everyone expects things to go for less than offered but not for the original price to be so much above that it is ripping someone off.

Don't be sad that is a very very nice 416. The stickle brick gun will also appeal to the teenagers probably. Custom means one of a kind, bespoke not off a shelf. So in reality very few custom toys out there. Partially custom, all fucking ugly ?

Nice and pretty but not custom.

Not talking about trades those are a different thing and anything remotely close should just be called. More on about when you need to tag multiple opponents fast without giving them chance to respond.

Needed no, but does it improve the gun yes. The fast trigger response for the right player is important because while I agree it is the person themselves that makes the biggest difference in some circumstances the ability to fire fast helps. I prefer cqb and reguarly have to move through groups so the ability to move and fire on anything from half a dozen to lots is very important to my game so every little bit helps. As for opening it making it less reliable I have never had a gun I have worked on fail unless through misuse or just general wear and I know of some that have been used every weekend for years and shot 100s of thousands of bbs that still run well. That includes recoils.

Precock and equalizer means instant trigger response. Programmable burst fire Cycle detection Battery protection Bunch of other settings to play with if inclined. No cut off lever or crappy trigger contacts to fail. Better to ask why not

I saw but couldn't be arsed. Even working it is not worth much more than a standard second hand combat machine. People really need to learn the difference between upgrading and just swapping parts.