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You mean to tell me a bit of black electrical tape doesn't double the value?

That's fucking hilarious

The conversion was as easy as swapping the inlet valve for the correct hpa adapter. Yes green gas does have silicone oil in it to help keep O rings lubricated . So far I've not had any issues with the seals in the drum mag though . The mag capacity thing does take some getting used to . When I run my L119's I carry 5 stanag mags and a speed loader , I can get 2 plus BB loads from a gas fill on those , so that gives me something in the 300 round total for an hour game which I find enough for my play style . It's all working in close to the other team , picking your shots and double taps ! The MP5 mags would need a refill of gas too , so when I use those I carry the speed loader and a can of gas . I have 4 stick mags . Just re fill during quiet moments or when re spawning . Same when I use my MP7 . The Apache certainly is loads of fun , I like the 3 round burst on it . I guess it depends on how much you enjoy the mag changes , if you aren't fussed then the drum might be the way to go , I'd still carry spare gas for it and give it a quick top off now and then . If the mag changes are a big part of the fun I'd stick to the stick mags . However if you want to run it in the winter the drum with an hpa adapter will work better given the size of the gas capacity in the stick mags.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned. How old is your son? I ask as some sites require under 18s to wear one piece eye and face protection rather than goggles/glasses and a separate face mask.

Lct is very busy of late

https://www.usedairsoft.co.uk/rif-s/gas-powered_1/vmp-2m-and-we-p-virus-biohazard-f226-set_i85835 This is dreaming big time lol

Hey, I got a Cyma CM355 abs version this morning. It is a cheap spring shotgun but it is a nice (not so) little thing! Doesn't have the hassle of gas and shoots FAR. Mind you I live in Italy where the limit for any airsoft replica is 0.99j, but this thing shoots as far as an AEG

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Don't forget knees aswell

Welcome ✋ Airsoft is one of the few sports that you can still play at 60 😁 Just take it easy and take care of the ankles 😉

Bloody hell, this place is only about 5 miles away. What a piece of luck... Spoke to the guy on the phone and I will pop there with my MP5 in a couple of days to get a couple of batteries. Bargain.

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Thanks all some good info there

No offence taken at all mate, I'm here to learn... Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm a pussy who doesn't want to get hurt, and especially not see my son get hurt. He's far too expensive to replace... Cheers Rick. And yep stupidly is far too common these days. Far too common.

The issue that I haven't seen mentioned is that whilst yes your intention was to show a cheap bargain and use them outside of airsoft games - A person could see them posted here, not read the rest of the context, go out to Lidl and buy a set, rock up to airsoft and then their next post is "I bought goggles I saw on an airsoft page and now I have 1 eye - It's all their fault!!!" Extreme? Yes, however stupidity is everywhere 😂 Roughly nine years ago my at the time regular site had a chap rock up with some cheap safety glasses (Think the type that comes with those £20 springer and BB bundles) who assumed as it was bought from an airsoft (More so hobby store where they sell samurai swords etc too, you know the types I'm sure!) store that they would be fine to use. He was walking back to respawn and had got a stray BB hit his glasses, shatter them and LUCKILY the BB hit just under his eye. I saw him again maybe 6 months later and he was still having trouble with where the BB had hit him and it had caused damage still. He tried to sue the site for negligence (It didn't go very far obviously) but it put the site owner at risk, all because he didn't do his due diligence and ensure he had correct safety gear. There's more to it than just you getting hurt. Imagine if you was the player that had shot at someone, not expecting to hit their eye protection (BB's aren't exactly known to go exactly where you want them to 99% of the time) and the next thing you know the dude you've just shot is on the floor screaming in pain because his cheap eye pro broke and now he has plastic splinters in his eye ball - That would be traumatic for everybody I reckon 😂 The site owners would also have to fill out an incident form for their insurance, which then puts that cost up for them. Sadly most sites are struggling financially as it is in this day and age, the last thing they'd need is premiums going up too. One accident from misjudgement or poor decision making from an individual can spiral into a big ordeal. I hope I don't come across as rude or targeting towards you as that's not my intention at all, I genuinely just don't want to see people getting hurt outside of "Ouch the BB hit me and it stung" 😂

My father and I used to shoot air rifles and airsoft guns in the back garden with no eye protection whatsoever, so you're already doing one better than we did 😂

I run a couple of grab bags (1 black, 1 OD), not the issue type, small bucket bags with molle on both sides & the ends, larger taco's on one side, smg taco's on the other, twin pistol on one end & twin 40mm on the other (which handily takes a bfg & small gas reservoir can). Main compartment takes nalgene water, chocky, spare goggs & battery, what more do you need ?. Perfect 👌 (Obviously I own about a million other rigs that invariably never get used lol) 😱

Long as I haven't offended anyone... 😆 I have no intention of letting anyone shoot at me with lidl eyewear, they were only for target shooting. But I do get and accept the honest and decent advice. Thanks. On a different note, I brought the CYMA blue edition mp5 for sale on here and am very excited... Can't wait.

Eye protection is something you should never cheap out on. I buy loads of stuff from Aliexpress (because it's great), but I will never buy eye protection from there, even though my general experience on the stuff I have bought from Aliexpress has been fantastic. For eyepro, I bought a pair of sawflys, a pair of heroshark's mesh goggles, and will get some Trittech glasses in the future. As I need prescription inserts, all of these options I think went into the triple digits since prescription inserts are pricey (the Trittechs will go into the multiple triple digits...), but 100% worth every penny.

Thanks Nick. Was it easy to convert to HPA? Do you need to add anything to the HPA tank to keep the gun lubricated? I thought (green) gas had silicone lube in the gas to keep everything running smoothly. This is my first GBB and I am struggling with the lack of ammo capacity. It came with 3 mags and I have been burning through the 130 rounds in 15 mins so need to use ammo more sparingly which is difficult as I am used to carrying 6 x 120 round mid caps for a 2 hour woodland game. I agree with the immersion side, I moved from a 1200 round drum on the AEG to 6 x mid caps as I enjoy the mag changes and keeping an eye on how much ammo I’ve used. Someone kindly let me have a go with their G3 which I almost bought but decided I wanted something smaller and lighter, also the G3 mags were only 20mm rounds each and he carried 10 mags which weighed a ton, more realistic I suppose. I thought I would be able to hold my trigger finger back but the apache is so much fun to shoot and I like to get stuck in so I am burning through BB’s at the same rate as I do with my electric MP5. Do I slowly build up to have 8/10 45 round mags or go drum? Decisions, decisions.