Best GBB under £400

[samjay]

just joined this site today so I'm sorry if i put this in the wrong topic.

 

I am thinking about rejoining the hobby again, after leaving the hobby nearly 8 years ago. I'm wondering what's the best GBB m4 or ak platform under £400 new or used. will be playing outside, ideally what is easy to upgrade, easy and cheap to buy parts for. 

 

[Impulse]

If you're only budgeting £400, you're not getting a good m4 or AK, partially because magazines tend to be £50 per mag and they're only 35rds each, so you will need at least a few.

 

Not an m4 or AK, but the KWA mp9 has always been pretty decent and would come within your budget, including mags. They apparently do eventually need parts replacing later down the line for steel parts as some of the stock parts will eventually give up, though mine haven't gone yet. That said, I don't use mine much.

[Austeyr]

The VFC Colt M733 Commando, if imported, will set you back about £400. However, as Impulse said you'll be hard pressed to find a GBBR under £400 that's worth having...

 

If you are open to move from the M4/AK platform... the WE G36 is cheap, cheerful, works fine ootb and retails about £280 in the UK

[Gunboat Diplomat]

Undoubtedly one of the Double Eagle MWS clones. Around £350 depending on the model but they are all very solid and trade blows with their Marui counterparts. Leaves you another £50 for a second mag, but expect to buy more. 

[Lyndication]

Would not recommend a KWA MP9 ngl, they're temperamental even when you replace all the badly designed stock parts. There's an updated Maruyama one coming out that seems to just run a tonne better out of the box. 

 

The Double Eagle MWS clones are pretty good. Avoid the DE PMags, they're really bad. 

 

Failing that, wait around for a deal on here. IIRC there's a VFC 733 going for £350 that you could probably negotiate down a bit. They're generally quite solid GBBs.

[BigStew]

For that sort of money you are looking at importing a Submachine gun like a one of the VFC HK series you can get a gun and several mags for £400. You won't be able to get a Rifle that doesn't need work and enough mags for that. I highly recomend checking out Explosive Enterprises on you tube for everything GBBR. 

Edited Sunday at 16:11 by BigStew

[samjay]

18 minutes ago, Austeyr said:

The VFC Colt M733 Commando, if imported, will set you back about £400. However, as Impulse said you'll be hard pressed to find a GBBR under £400 that's worth having...

 

If you are open to move from the M4/AK platform... the WE G36 is cheap, cheerful, works fine ootb and retails about £280 in the UK

thanks, i did look at the WE G36 someone is selling one with 7 or 8 mags for £300 so i thought that was quite good but i really want a m4 or ak

21 minutes ago, Lyndication said:

Would not recommend a KWA MP9 ngl, they're temperamental even when you replace all the badly designed stock parts. There's an updated Maruyama one coming out that seems to just run a tonne better out of the box. 

 

The Double Eagle MWS clones are pretty good. Avoid the DE PMags, they're really bad. 

 

Failing that, wait around for a deal on here. IIRC there's a VFC 733 going for £350 that you could probably negotiate down a bit. They're generally quite solid GBBs.

thanks i did have a look at the Double Eagle MWS but still need to look into them, any chance you got a link to the VFC 733

[Lyndication]

Ah damn, it sold.

 

However, this is a decent deal:

 

 

[Austeyr]

39 minutes ago, samjay said:

any chance you got a link to the VFC 733

 

https://www.wgcshop.com/products/vfc-m733-commando-gbb-airsoft-colt-licensed?_pos=1&_psq=vfc+comm&_ss=e&_v=1.0

 

In case you want to import one new

Edited Sunday at 16:51 by Austeyr

[samjay]

29 minutes ago, Lyndication said:

Ah damn, it sold.

 

However, this is a decent deal:

 

 

thanks so much 

23 minutes ago, Austeyr said:

 

https://www.wgcshop.com/products/vfc-m733-commando-gbb-airsoft-colt-licensed?_pos=1&_psq=vfc+comm&_ss=e&_v=1.0

 

In case you want to import one new

is it hard to import a gun over 

[Lyndication]

Easy enough if you have UKARA

[samjay]

12 minutes ago, Lyndication said:

Easy enough if you have UKARA

thanks but sadly i don't have one 

[ButcherBill]

There are plenty GBBR's in the classifieds, some with extra mags too.

[Cannonfodder]

I don't have any hands on experience with gbb m4 or ak platforms so I'll leave that advice to others (although the TM MP7 is in budget if you're open to other guns)

1 hour ago, samjay said:

thanks but sadly i don't have one 

Tbh I'd get that sorted first. While being on the ukara database isn't essential it does make things easier when buying 

[Waven]

Performance wise, one of the Double Eagle MWS, but then you need magazines which will exceed 400 in total.

I don't trust vfc since it failed me multiple times on different models, and saved me a few times when my opponent player tries to hit me with VFC GBBR. I am not doing voluntary QC for them 

 

 

[Lyndication]

Huh, funny that

[Tackle]

21 hours ago, samjay said:

thanks but sadly i don't have one 

As @Cannonfodder said, its not essential, but it will make life so much easier when buying, even secondhand.

[Galvatron]

"Cheap" often becomes expensive down the line with GBBRs.

 

You can get a Golden Eagle M4 with 2 or 3 additional mags for under £400 but the Western Arms gas platform it's based on is somewhat dated and getting spare parts and upgrades can be a challenge later on.

 

Double Eagle's MWS-compatible GBBRs are arguably the most price-competitive you'll find at the moment and lots of parts can be shared across TM, including mag fill valves when they (not the gasket) leak. Upgrades are easy to do if you're reasonably technical.

 

Vorsk has a AR-based GBBR due out next year (expected in the first half) with MWS mag compatibility but pricing and details on the hop unit, trigger box, etc are TBC. I'd guess these will be even more afforable than the DE MWS GBBRs.

 

Another consideration you really ought to make is that now we're in much cooler if not colder temperatures, you should expect your running costs to go up. "Red" or "black" gas cost more money as green gas becomes less practical (if at all) in cooler temperatures. You can use hand warmers to keep your mags warm when you're running green gas but that's something you'll have to keep a close eye on to make sure you're not running a hot gun. Other expenses include lightweight bolts/carriers and with if you use higher pressure gas, there are NPAS and fixed power-down valves to throw into the mix.

 

 

[Baser]

I have a couple of WE Apache MP5's

 

1. Bought a used from the classifieds, came with fixed and folding stock and surefire light and standard hand guard and 3 gas tight mags.  Shoots really well but 120 rounds from the 3 mags is not enough. Cost £350

 

2. Bought a used MP5K PDW from the classifieds, came with 5 mags Cost £420.

 

Carry all 8 mags into a game and come back empty after 2 hours but I need to move on from my usual spray and pray AEG game and learn to choose my shots.  I also carry a small speed loader with 100 rounds in it so I can fill mags at spawn when I run out.

 

Both shoot really well and were in great condition from their previous owners. 

 

GBB is fun and more realistic and can be done for £400 but it will be tight especially for mags and carrying ammo. 

[Wavey_Gravey]

I would save a some more money, £500-£550 and you’re in the realms of a lightly used MWS with a couple of mags.