£400 Budget

[sp00n]

Actually its not when compared to the guns I pointed out. With a £400 budget you can get a lot better.

Let me explain;

I never base my opinions on bias just on engineering knowledge. G&G internals are made from some of the worst quality materials in the airsoft world.

They are great if you have a low budget but the op says he has £400.

Yes they are easy to upgrade but I would rather recommend something you dont need to.

As for reliable I know an Ics plastic gun that has never had any maintenance (not even cleaned the barrel) in the 3yrs the person has had it and hes fired over a 75,000 rnds he reckons. It rattles 22rnds a second and shoots very well.

Think you can buy them for about £180.

As a comparison my TM mp5k had 6mm plastic bushings, where as my cm16 had 8mm oilite bushings. And my g&g l85 has steel bushings.

 

My cm16 had some 50k rounds through it, with zero mods, before I decided to open it up to have a play, I could have just lubed it, and rebushed it and it would have been good. But I wanted to jack it.

[ImTriggerHappy]

As a comparison my TM mp5k had 6mm plastic bushings, where as my cm16 had 8mm oilite bushings. And my g&g l85 has steel bushings.

 

Bushings are only part of the story though. Tms are a weird one to be honest the newer stuff is better but some of the older stuff you do wonder how it works so well. To be honest I would probably pick the krytac or ics over the Tm but being he wanted a cqb M4 had to chuck it in.

G&G l85 isnt a combat masheep I actually quite like them. Would probably still buy the ICS l85 over it though if I was after one.

Not all G&Gs are bad but still stick by the fact of if I was going to spend £400 I wouldn't even consider one.

[sp00n]

G&G l85 isnt a combat masheep I actually quite like them. Would probably still buy the ICS l85 over it though if I was after one.

Not all G&Gs are bad but still stick by the fact of if I was going to spend £400 I wouldn't even consider one.

I'll agree with you on the l85, I was just using it as a comparison gun (and one that I own)

 

I suppose my point is £400 is a lot to spend on a first gun, when you don't even know if your going to stick with it (long term)

 

I think we should be saying looking at eye pro, boots, batteries, mags, etc etc then see what you have left for a gun

[ImTriggerHappy]

I suppose my point is £400 is a lot to spend on a first gun, when you don't even know if your going to stick with it (long term)

 

I think we should be saying looking at eye pro, boots, batteries, mags, etc etc then see what you have left for a gun

The OP states in his post he already has all the gear but he bought a jbbg special and now wants something better.

I dont think I personally would ever say any amount of money is too much for a first gun. He gave a £400 budget and was given a £400 budget answer like he requested.

I totally understand your point of view and dont necessarily disagree but prefer just to give the OP the answer he asked for.

But as I always say every answer on here is just someones opinion not airsoft gospel.

[Sitting Duck]

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