Joshb1612 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Hi all, being as I'm not long away from being UKARA regiested, I've started to look at what guns are around so I know roughly how much I'm going to need. After much searching I found this: http://airsoftzone.co.uk/airsoft-guns/rifles/electric-aeg/m4-mrp-combat-l-aeg-gnp I'm thinking eitehr that or a G&P Scar. What I really want to know is are the stock interalls relayable? because I was thinking of having a mosfet fitted. My mate said if I'm going to be paying that sort of money for a gun and change a few things, then he said it might be worth building a gun from scratch! Josh
TacMaster Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 With G&P you're mostly paying for external quality- however i've heard that they can perform at a decent standard out of the box, and in some cases only need a new hop rubber (decent ones can be bought for under £10)
Supporters M_P Posted March 18, 2014 Supporters Posted March 18, 2014 You don't need a new hop rubber, but you will benefit from one- they perform just fine ootb and have externals that very few brands can match. A g&g will out-shoot it out of the box but it's cheaper to get the performance out of the G&P than it is to get the G&G feeling nice. Either are a good choice, get whichever you prefer the look of really.
Supporters Monty Posted March 18, 2014 Supporters Posted March 18, 2014 G&P's have great quality aesthetics, but there's nothing really special about the internals though, you might as well go for a G&G.
TacMaster Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 G&G would be better for a beginner. G&P when you're confident with internals and ready to hand over more cash.
Supporters M_P Posted March 18, 2014 Supporters Posted March 18, 2014 G&G would be better for a beginner. G&P when you're confident with internals and ready to hand over more cash. That's a good way of putting it. If you intend on leaving it stock, go G&G, for upgrading go G&P
Joshb1612 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 I'm not confident with internals at all if I'm honest. I think I'll have a look at G&G, cheers guys!
Baz JJ Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Ive got the G&G SCAR. Fitted with a few cosmetic externals, its a really nice gun. My SCAR with the PMAG . Have also put a 4x32mm ACOG with killflash on plus a Noveske Flash Hider, stubby foregrip and UTG rail covers. You can also set the gas regulator on this model - doesn't do anything obviously.
Sam_G Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I had 2 G&P M4s and they both had the hop rubber changed and were fantastic out of the box. Never had a G&G but the basic ones the externals are plastic and i personally would never have a plastic gun, The top techs are metal but then your looking at G&P money and i would go G&P.
Supporters Samurai Posted March 19, 2014 Supporters Posted March 19, 2014 If you go for the G&P swap the gears and the piston head to some decent ones. Those tend break after about 10000 shots.
Unrustle_Thine_Jimmies Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 True Samurai,G&P gears are not the strongest Otherwise good guns. Externals are to die for and internals are usable for the most parts,aside from a few crap parts.
Joshb1612 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 I've been looking at G&G and I found this http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/tr_15_raider_l_top_tech.html gen 3 with mosfet already fitted, which is handy. Baz I do really like your scar but I would want one in tan. Would getting a G&P and putting a G&G gear box in make much difference, or would it not work? I apologise for my absolute lack of knowledge. I was think of learn one I get a new gun, and using my two tone SRC to practise on, because I know I need to be able to take it apart to maintenace it, once I figure out exactly what I have to do for that as well.
Supporters Monty Posted March 19, 2014 Supporters Posted March 19, 2014 Would getting a G&P and putting a G&G gear box in make much difference, or would it not work? No point really,
Joshb1612 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 so G&G have the better internals out of the two?
Supporters M_P Posted March 20, 2014 Supporters Posted March 20, 2014 Yeah the majority of their stuff has a pneumatic blowback system.
TacMaster Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 It's a nice feature but i'd like it to be a little stronger.
Baz JJ Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Im not sure the G&G SCAR is blowback. Nothing external moves anyway, unlike my G&G HK416.
Supporters M_P Posted March 20, 2014 Supporters Posted March 20, 2014 Im not sure the G&G SCAR is blowback. Nothing external moves anyway, unlike my G&G HK416. Was yours second hand? I think they should come with it, yours was probably disabled, it's a known weak point as the Scars and other older models weren't pneumatic so if it was stopped or caught on something it'd break. Edit: ignore i was wrong.
Supporters M_P Posted March 20, 2014 Supporters Posted March 20, 2014 It's a nice feature but i'd like it to be a little stronger. G&Gs are blowback not recoil, it's not meant to have a feeling it's just a moving bolt cover, that's it.
Joshb1612 Posted March 20, 2014 Author Posted March 20, 2014 does blowback make the gun more unreliable though? a few people at my local site said they need more maintenance or something like that!
Supporters M_P Posted March 20, 2014 Supporters Posted March 20, 2014 Normal blowback generally puts more wear on the gun but G&G's system is pneumatic so it's no worse than normal- nothing to worry about.
Supporters M_P Posted March 20, 2014 Supporters Posted March 20, 2014 Yeah just had a look, I always thought they did... maybe it was the l85s then, My mistake
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