gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Would this be good for a newbie? Currently looking round for my first gun and this has caught my eye as it comes with a red dot, RIS rails and seems reasonablty priced http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=8510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Gooday Sir Welcome to Sons of Guns. What is your budget and do you want that customized at all ? No seriously Gareth, buying guns is like my wife buying dresses.. Tries them all on, cant decide and then back to the first one again. Its very subjective. They're a good gun but what do you really want, really really want ! I was browsing in an American gun shop once and their opening pitch was, what do you want to take down and how much did you want to spend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Gooday Sir Welcome to Sons of Guns. What is your budget and do you want that customized at all ? No seriously Gareth, buying guns is like my wife buying dresses.. Tries them all on, cant decide and then back to the first one again. Its very subjective. They're a good gun but what do you really want, really really want ! I was browsing in an American gun shop once and their opening pitch was, what do you want to take down and how much did you want to spend ? I know what you mean about the dresses, I can never decide either I would say my budget for the rifle itself is between £120 & £150 and I would be looking to add a fore grip and possibly a light to it (although I am sure it would be further customised once im 'up to speed') Just looking around to see whats available and how much I will need to save/steal from the wifes purse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The G&G Combat Range are a good starter gun. I have their Top Tech rifles and are they are nice solid, dependable guns. My advice is to for a model with rails rather than the M4 type hand grips as you have more space for attachments. Foregrips are cheap so worth doing at the outset. Buy the gun with iron sights and get used to it, then decide which optics to go for. Choosing optics can be harder than choosing a rifle ! They even do a pink one if you want to use it on your dress weekends ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 The G&G Combat Range are a good starter gun. I have their Top Tech rifles and are they are nice solid, dependable guns. My advice is to for a model with rails rather than the M4 type hand grips as you have more space for attachments. Foregrips are cheap so worth doing at the outset. Buy the gun with iron sights and get used to it, then decide which optics to go for. Choosing optics can be harder than choosing a rifle ! They even do a pink one if you want to use it on your dress weekends ! Maybe if I buy a pink one the mrs might not see it as such a monumentous waste of money! As for the sights, the one from Zero comes with a red dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted October 11, 2013 Supporters Share Posted October 11, 2013 Maybe if I buy a pink one the mrs might not see it as such a monumentous waste of money! As for the sights, the one from Zero comes with a red dot I say go for it with the caveat that it may be a bit long if you fancy a bit of CQB. I've used my buds GR4 (the one with all the faux Magpul stuff) and it's a nice gun. Front end was a bit wobbly but I think it just needs a bit of a service. Reliable and accurate enough for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The point Im trying to make is that you might not like their red dot. I have one rifle with an EoTech and x4 magnifier, another with a red dot and integral x2 magnifier and a pistol with laser red dot and light. I move them all round depending on what I need. All I was suggesting is getting used to the gun with zeroed in ironsights and then assessing what optic you might like to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 The point Im trying to make is that you might not like their red dot. I have one rifle with an EoTech and x4 magnifier, another with a red dot and integral x2 magnifier and a pistol with laser red dot and light. I move them all round depending on what I need. All I was suggesting is getting used to the gun with zeroed in ironsights and then assessing what optic you might like to fit. got ya, good tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted October 11, 2013 Supporters Share Posted October 11, 2013 Equally if you get the one with the red dot and you don't like it, you can always sell it on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Equally if you get the one with the red dot and you don't like it, you can always sell it on.... Another good point. Eventually i think i would want a magnifier but not for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky vimto Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Also think about where you will play mostly. I play indoor CQB so a shorter gun is a bit more handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike636 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 My best mate has one, cracking gun, performs really well out the box, the red dot sight is a pretty good quality his only feedback would be that it's a little bit too big for cqb. The front sight post on most of the combat machine range is fixed on so you can't remove it with dremmeling it off but this one doesn't have that issue and Pro Airsoft Supplies fitted it with deans for £1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Also think about where you will play mostly. I play indoor CQB so a shorter gun is a bit more handy. It will be mostly woodland so prolly not a lot of CQB My best mate has one, cracking gun, performs really well out the box, the red dot sight is a pretty good quality his only feedback would be that it's a little bit too big for cqb. The front sight post on most of the combat machine range is fixed on so you can't remove it with dremmeling it off but this one doesn't have that issue and Pro Airsoft Supplies fitted it with deans for £1! One of the reasons im looking at it and not the raider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike636 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 It does look good with HK style iron sights fitted too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Ive got their version of the HK 416 which has a folding front sight and the HK turret type rear sight. I just fold the font down and remove the rear sight when I use my optics. By the way make sure you get the HK tool for adjusting the sight if you buy it standalone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted October 11, 2013 Supporters Share Posted October 11, 2013 i have the CM16 Raider L , fantastic EPIC gun , i would have got the R8, but they had only just come out at the time. They do look good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 i have the CM16 Raider L , fantastic EPIC gun , i would have got the R8, but they had only just come out at the time. They do look good though Wonder what it would look like with the scope from my air rifle mounted on it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Like a badass assault rifle with an air rifle scope - :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethaldave Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 http://proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/m4_and_m14_variants.html for g&g guns, their cheaper and for £150 you can get the mk18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted October 11, 2013 Supporters Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wonder what it would look like with the scope from my air rifle mounted on it lol it would look cool , but go with a 20mm ris riser and a acog ... you know it makes sense also if your going to buy from pro airsoft supplies, have a look here >>> http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/16141-wwwproairsoftsuppliescouk/ as in my post there is a way to get your gun even cheaper! (but feel free to use ian's link ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 They have the GR15 with blowback at £170. Gareth, don't forget you will still need to buy a charger and battery which isnt included ! or if you want to keep on the right side of the wife: http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/femme_fatal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Thanks for the ideas/tips guys. All I need to do now is save up and get my ukara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazm1 Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Given the comments about CQB's, I think ive changed my mind http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_495&products_id=6351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz JJ Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Do you know my wife ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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