Zak Da Mack Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 So I was on their website today, looking at new kit and I found out they sell some airsoft guns in black. Are they UKARA licensed? Because I've noticed when you buy a gun, you only need to provide your age and not a UKARA number.... Isn't that illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 UKARA isn't mandatory. Although have not tried their process. All they need to do it make sure you have a valid defense against purchase. UKARA and being UKARA registered is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Da Mack Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 They don't ask for any sort of defence though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonQuigley Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 If you live in the UK you must be a registered Airsoft skirmisher topurchase any Airsoft gun. Please provide details of your Membershipafter purchasing this product. says that at the bottom of desc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonQuigley Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 oh bollocks, just checked out etc, dosent ask anything... BUY EVERYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrel Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Wouldn't it be confiscated as soon as you go to a site to play and not have a defense?? I know someone who bought a RIF before the law to have a valid defense. Would it be safe to take it to a site even though he isn't UKARA registered. Wouldn't the site inform police or whatever happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer306 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Just taken off their web site using my iPad ASG B&T MP5 A5 Black ASG B&T MP5 A5 Colour: Black Say the word MP5 and most people know what you are talking about. This is a true classic used by law enforcement and seen in cinemas all over the world. This Sportline version is the A5 with a retractable stock licensed by the Swiss manufacturer of the real MP5, Brügger & Thomet. Length: 735mm Barrel length: 229mm Mag. capacity: 200 rounds Hop Up type: Adjustable Velocity: 328 fps (100 m/s) Weight: 1900g Energy: 1.0 Joule Semi and full auto function Battery and charger included Manufacturer: ASG You must be over 18 to buy this product. You confirm that by purchasing this item If you live in the UK you must be a registered Airsoft skirmisher to purchase any Airsoft gun. Please provide details of your Membership after purchasing this product. £119.99 Email: [email protected] Terms | Privacy Copyright © eSellerPro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted March 26, 2013 Supporters Share Posted March 26, 2013 yeah, my guess is that they'll be in contact shortly after you make the purchase to get details of your defence, no defence = no gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Finius Posted March 26, 2013 Supporters Share Posted March 26, 2013 Wouldn't it be confiscated as soon as you go to a site to play and not have a defense?? I know someone who bought a RIF before the law to have a valid defense. Would it be safe to take it to a site even though he isn't UKARA registered. Wouldn't the site inform police or whatever happens? No. Ownership is totally legal. It's the actual selling etc that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev.k Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Wouldn't it be confiscated as soon as you go to a site to play and not have a defense?? I know someone who bought a RIF before the law to have a valid defense. Would it be safe to take it to a site even though he isn't UKARA registered. Wouldn't the site inform police or whatever happens? The site would have no authority to confiscate anything. If they tried it would be theft. This UKARA is a load of rubbish. Some people take it far to seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 This UKARA is a load of rubbish. Some people take it far to seriously. excuse me? Please elaborate on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted March 29, 2013 Supporters Share Posted March 29, 2013 I assume he's saying people take it too far and start believing that UKARA is a legal requirement, when it isn't. It's an easy way of proving you have a defence but definitely not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonQuigley Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 what would count as defence? could you just say you needed it for a skirmish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethaldave Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 site membership, reenactors, licensed film work, and of course ukara, there are plenty of threads about it, infact most "whats bestest" gun threads turn into a ukara debate, you got plenty of readable material on here about defences etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 1, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2013 BTW, you don't need a licence to make films. We're not quite a police state. If you want to film on private property, you need the owners' permission. Similarly, if you want to film in many cities, you need permission from whatever public body is in charge. If you film the general public without having secured that permission you are leaving yourself open to be sued by anyone who appears in the final cut for at least a pro rata percentage of money generated purely from the mechanical copyright, but also most likely a punitive sum for the aggravation. If a person can prove that your portrayal of them in some way harms their business, or media image if they can be proved to have one, you could get sued for way more than the film makes... it's similar with including music, artwork, in fact anything to which a copyright exists without having first 'licensed' it, which simply means the copyright owner/s' written permission for you to exploit their intellectual property in a given work of your own and any conditions that apply. But at no point can anyone jobsworth you with 'you need a licence'. All of the above is a matter of civil law, not criminal. As a matter strictly of law you could trespass on private property and film there and, so long as you did no criminal damage to effect entry or while you were there and your presence did not, by its very nature, constitute a 'breach of the peace' (in reality a number of different offences under the Public Order Act), the police could do nothing about it. That's not to say that they wouldn't find something to arrest you for, like suspicion of urinating on the public highway et al. but so long as you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of a court that any RIF's you had on you were being used legitimately to make a film, you would be in the clear. in reality of course the CPS would throw it out well before it got to court. The question of whether or not you were a licensed film maker would never arise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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