Ian_Gere

They give you a report of their chrono test. That was what I was asking - just trying to figure out what spring they may have replaced the original with.

What is the average of the chrono test?

Getting paint off guns:

No that is nothing like I'm imagining. I mean a grip at right angles to the barrel, about 18" long, at about 45 degrees from the horizontal. With some kind of adjustable spring...

It's oh so wrong but I actually quite like the red AK too ICS AK's are not parts compatible with TM/clones or VFC/LCT/clones but they do make a wooden furniture kit for their own AK-74's and the finish on it is lovely (although it's not the right colour for Russian AK's). Otherwise it's the dremmel and, in that case, you may find it cheaper to buy real steel (if you see what I mean) furniture to work from rather than airsoft parts (except the pistol grips - real ones can fit onto GBBR AK's but not AEG's). You do not have to wait for a UKARA number to convert your IF into an RIF. The defence applies to you so long as you are an airsofter. You should never have your guns uncovered in public outside of an airsoft site anyway and the very fact that you are there at a site airsofting means you are covered, so if you want rid of the red, get rid of it.

TBH Chris, bullpups are hardly new anymore either and if the point is to create a PDW which gives a downed pilot, for eg, a chance against someone with a MBR, then my money is on design the thing from the ground up, because ease of use is as much a factor in the effectiveness of firearms as calibre and muzzle velocity, surely. I don't know what the answer is off the top of my head, but next to no distance between the pistol grip and off hand grip is definitely not it. I mean, in this day and age of excellent materials science, why does the off hand grip even need to be inline? It must surely be possible to create a grip which could unfold and extend out of the side of the weapon, preferably also down like an upside down handlebar so that you don't have to hold your off hand up to the height of your shoulder, with adjustable stiffness to manage recoil throwing aim off, and you could probably design an off-centre but still perfectly stable bipod into such a thing - nylon fibre and titanium tube = light and strong = Bob's the geezer shagging your mum. But my point wasn't that real steel similar to this had no function anyway, it was that the PDR-C is a pig ugly object without a single redeeming aesthetic feature!

Which would be all very well, Chris, if ergonomic studies had shown that the people of today had shorter arms than those of 40-50 years ago. I just don't believe that they have...

OK, so having ruminated and cogitated, I've come to the conclusion that we are still worrying over nothing. While it is true that firearms legislation covers things other than what a dictionary would call a firearm, even tasers, it is very specific about things which propel projectiles from a barrel using expanding gas as propellant. I was going to look it up to be certain, because I cannot remember the exact figures, but then I realised I don't have to - it definitely talks about double figures of foot/pounds (14 maybe?). Anyway, these are made from very light polymer foam, just not bendy like a Nerf dart, and you can see them in flight... So yeah, maybe they are carrying more than 1 Joule, or even than 2.34J (0.2g BB@500FPS), but those figures are not the subject of law outside NI anyway and even 10 foot/pounds = no way. They definitely do not consider energetic potential in with those figures. If that were the case, something which was legal downstairs could be illegal upstairs due to gravitational potential energy. It was an interesting idea tho Anyway, if people are using TAG nades in the UK, I want to be one of 'em! It's just a case of deciding which launcher to go for now and whether to go underslung or standalone.

I'm going to come back to this after i've eaten and had a think, because, while i agree that if there's a way to stop fun with pyros, someone will find it, i also suspect that there must be a provision in the law which differentiates between pyros and explosive charges as defined as exploding munitions - because otherwise airbomb fireworks would be illegal, as would TLSFX mortar rounds.

Yeah, Skirmish are pretty cool - so long as you're not a dick they'll let you use just about anything. They've allowed home made bangs partially buried and fired by radio det before - obviously they were sure that the bangs were not mental, but they were bloody loud! It would depend on their (AW's or anyone else) interpretation of the relevant laws, eh? Edit: what i mean is, the old bill have got more important things to be doing than chasing around after people selling airsoft pyros, so even if the legal position isn't 100% certain, it would take a pretty determined campaign of jobsworthery to actually prevent anyone selling them.

Has anyone heard anything about Danmu full steel GP-30 replicas? ...afaik only available from gunnerairsoft.com but firing any 40mm MOSCART and thus also these TAG nades. I'm still concerned that it would make an AK too front-heavy for comfort, but probably less so than the D-Boys zamak effort which weighs in at a staggering 1.45Kg loaded.

Right, well i think that what those of us who have been worrying about this have done once again is mis-conflate our toys with firearms, because in no way are these "cartridge", "bullet", or "capable of being used with a firearm". So happy days

Just found out i've been overcharged £126 for gas'n'leccy... 3 guesses what that will be going on

In another thread it came to my attention that Airsoft World are now carrying the TAG launcher system, which looks like this if you are not familiar: They're not new, but until recently were not available from UK retailers. Indeed there is some question over their legality under the letter of British law, since here it definitely is illegal to fire explosive projectiles out of/with anything. I'm hoping that these fall outside what the law defines as 'explosive' for the purposes of the law and perhaps someone can enlighten us on that score. In any case the law is intended to prevent dickheadery on a monumental scale, not to stop us adding a much needed dimension to airsoft, accurate indirect fire, or to stop people having a laugh with well designed safe equipment. There is a vid somewhere of someone allowing himself to be shot with this system, but I cannot find it. If someone can help me out there, I'd appreciate it. Anyway, it shows that the system is safe for our purposes. I'm definitely going to get some and sooner rather than later, just in case some jobsworth takes it upon him/herself to end the fun. However the question arises, from what to launch them? Most of my loadouts are Soviet/Russian so my first thought was the D-Boys GP-25 underslung noob tube for AK's: ...but apparently it makes an AK uncomfortably front heavy and they take a funky shell, like a Russian VOG grenade: ...so the TAG may not even fit. There is a steel GP-30 made by a company called Danmu which does fire any 40mm MOSCARTs, but it was £80 shipped last time I looked, which did not compare favourably with prices for the D-Boys effort, however since taiwangun.com have discontinued free shipping except on mahoosive orders, it starting to look less outrageous... especially considering what you get for the money. Nonetheless, if there is one thing I hate it's front heavy guns - they make my left arm ache within 10mins. So that leaves stand alone launchers, unless I was to add weight inside the stock of my AK-74. The latter is a viable possibility because I've rewired her to carry her battery under her top cover, like all my other AK's, but I'm interested to see what you recommend also. Now would seem to be a good time to discuss what else you can launch from tubes also, such as Enola Gay smoke bombs and, has anyone ever fired a thermobaric 'nade like this (by just jamming it into a 203 in front of a 40mm 'nade gassed up but without BB's)?

Yeah, it's a fair enough price, but I'm not sure I want to spend £135 on little smokes all at once and, even though I do have a big CO2 fire extinguisher, I'm pretty sure that if my landlady found out I was storing them in my place, she'd have 2 words to say = "Get out!" I'll see if Matt (Ammo Drop) carries them. Actually I'm going to start a new thread.

What I mean is, if you're getting them from AW, how much are they charging for shipping via courier?

Where do you get EG smokes from, PT?

TBH I think that, by the letter of the law, they are illegal. But it's stupid to use a law which is intended to criminalise home made grenade launchers, ie proper dickheadery, to stop people having a laugh so i don't care. We just have to hope that nobody feels the need to get on a jobsworth one about it. I mean, it's not as if UK police are known for refusing to use laws which were not intended for a particular purpose to nick people... I'm gonna get some sooner rather than later though, just in case they turn out to be a flash in the pan :groan:

Yeah, I've got a PDI 6.01x590mm in Svetlana - nobody has said that could be a problem though. It's those white BB King 0.4's which have a question hanging over them in that regard. But yeah, as soon as I can form an opinion I'll let you know...

I've used strobe during a night game to allow me to move from cover to cover - just chucked it on the ground ahead of me, let the opposition get their spray and pray out of their system and then went into the bush I was planning on. I'm pretty sure that the flashing prevented them seeing the foliage move and it may well have kept them looking in the wrong place while i crawled forward about 10-12m into a sniping position: stayed there for the rest of that game, maybe 10mins - got a few kills and nobody even fired at me, even though i was within AEG range (the reason i went forward was to shoot diagonally across the field to put pressure on the only place where they were doing well). Strobe does seem to fuck night vision up more than a simple light - it puts a bunch of conjoined residual dots on your vision rather than just the one.

I bought some Welts 0.43's from patrolbase, but I haven't tried 'em yet. Dave reckons they're good and he's not known for talking shite.

^^Actually GP's aren't as cheap as they once were - about £35+P&P is the cheapest i've seen them recently. But yeah, they are the way forward. They just may be a bit hardcore for feet used to trainers so, if that's you, you'll probably need gel insoles for comfort and 2 pairs of socks (thin Slazenger sports socks inside chunky walking stylee ones is my current arrangement) to prevent blisters; the inner ones slip against the outer ones which prevents your feet doing the same.

Hey, i stole it!

Yes. Yes, it definitely does. You weirdo!