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    Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?

    in General Discussion

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    5 hours ago, mrfoxhound said:

    yes but the joules are not gonna change 

     

    My friend - take this from someone who runs chrono at a site as a marshal: a chrono cannot 'measure' the joules of an airsoft gun. It cannot be used to detect someone lying about the weight of their BBs.

     

    All a chrono does is measure the speed of the BB - it does not know the weight of the projectile or the energy it is carrying. Inputting the weight into some chronos allows it to calculate the joules based on the input weight of the projectile. If the weight input is incorrect, the subsequent joules calculation will be incorrect.

     

    If a gun chronos at 310fps and the user claims to be running 0.25g BBs, the chrono will say the RIF is firing at 1.12j. If they are actually using 0.3g BBs, the chrono will still read 310fps and it will still say it is firing at 1.12j when in reality its more like 1.3j. 

    Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?

    in General Discussion

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    1 hour ago, Colin Allen said:

    When I first went there, this surprised me; however, having played there a lot, it is the only site where I have never come across complaints about players potentially having hot guns.  There is something about the culture of the site, the way it is run and the attitude of the very large number of regular players that seems to prevent it being a problem.

     

    The time I went, I was really surprised by this - I think it was the first time I'd been to a site where the chrono was effectively voluntary (or more voluntary than other sites). However as Colin said it didn't seem to be a problem. There was a solid queue of people waiting to use them and I never really got a whiff of anything funny while I was there. 

    Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?

    in General Discussion

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    2 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

    Spot checking, in the field, with site BBs.

     

    Sorry yes what I meant was there's nothing to prevent me (or anyone), other than the threat of being caught. Ultimately, it's very very difficult to completely prevent people from cheating if they really want to. You just have to do everything you can to make it not worth it.

    Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?

    in General Discussion

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    In truth nothing is foolproof. I've been to places that give you ammo, tag your RIF etc but there would be nothing stopping me turning up an NPAS or similar in the field. I played first time round about 20 years ago, then got back into it recently, and I've never been spot-checked in the field. The only thing I've ever seen that was lairy was at DogTag last summer: a guy chronoed as a DMR (he was right in front of me in the queue), then in the field I clocked he was firing full-auto. I told a marshall, they spoke to him and reported back to me that he had turned off the semi-lock on his mosfet. They sent him home instantly.

     

    I do some marshalling at a site in the SE when I'm free and often run the chrono. Do the same checks in the chrono, tag the RIFS (and regs for HPA) then eyeball everyone out of the safezone to make sure everything is marked up. When I go out into the gaming area, I take a chrono out in my pocket and I have spot-checked people. I've yet to come across anyone doing anything silly like adjusting power post-chrono.

     

     

    TM g17 gen5 mos

    in Appraisals

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    I don't think they going to be so sought after that people will be paying over (or possibly even around) the RRP, but then people do mad things all the time. 

     

    You can buy G17 Gen 5 MOS GHKs for virtually the same price as the TM now - I did about three weeks ago, so I'm not sure the demand is really there. 

     

    Price it how you like but be prepared to appear in Macks...

    Legit tactic or...

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    There was a guy in the room playing the VIP (who was part of the organisation team) who saw the whole thing. He seemed entirely disinterested by it - in fact when I tried to bring him into the conversation, he remained resolute in his silence. I spoke to one of the proper marshals later, who agreed touching other pyro a no-no and was quick to point out he'd mentioned it in the brief but by this time I'd forgotten what the player who did it looked like. "I dunno mate, camo trousers with an M4..."

    Legit tactic or...

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by LMKipper

    If he'd thrown a bit of old shit in the door, I'd have been less bothered and obviously not taken it. It was the fact it was an impact, and it made a decent bang when it just hit the floor that I assumed it had gone off - like it had a little 209 primer in or similar.

     

    I think what also narked me more was that this was a battlesim/filsim/milsim-lite job and I expected better, but I appreciate this is on me. I know there's only so much realism you can cram into toy guns, but throwing a spent grenade at an actual enemy IRL would not result in them keeling over due to a misunderstanding 😂

    Legit tactic or...

    in General Discussion

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    I went to a filmsim/battlesim at the weekend and mostly had a good time but came up against a ‘tactic’ that I thought was a bit pants to be honest. However, I’m interested to know if I’m being overly sensitive.

     

    I was defending an objective, which was in a room in a house. It’s very noisy – shouting, loads of grenades etc. Generally hard to hear what’s going on. Suspecting some OpFor in the neighbouring room, I popped an impact grenade around the doorframe. Pop – no kills. About 10 seconds later, an impact grenade comes back around the doorframe into my room. I hear a loud bang as the impact hits the deck (I’ve got ear pro in) and take the hit. Bloke charges in, fair play we’re all done.

     

    He then loudly exclaims to his mates that he threw my own dead impact back into the room with me and starts laughing. I said ‘oh well I’m not dead then’ and knife kill him in return, and he says ‘no you are, you took the hit’ and it’s my own fault for not recognising the bang didn’t go off. I said this is stupid – for a start you shouldn’t touch other players pyro, but also next time it encourages people to not take grenade hits in case they were fake. He said he'd seen it on YouTube. I just took the hit and walked off, because I didn’t want any more aggro.

     

    Thoughts? Is this a legit tactic and I should shut up, or is this completely pants?
     

    GHK Glock 17 Gen5.

    in Gas Guns

    Posted

    Well my supplied speedloader just jammed up and broke on the first proper attempt to load the mags. I've got some pistol adaptors for a TM speedloader, so I'll see what I can get to work. Otherwise really great pistol and enjoyed runnin it for the first time this weekend just gone.

    The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Went to an evening game at the Invicta Black Site with @VictorFourTwo as a bit of a warm up ahead of an urban battlesim this weekend. As mostly woodland players, we just wanted a bit of a shake down. It was little bit of a mixed bag from my perspective, entirely because of one player, but we had a pretty good time anyway.

     

    Games were quite simple: first two games were domination with illuminated coloured beacons. Turn red on if you're red, blue if you're blue etc. Second game there were red and blue beacons dotted around the floor, and you had to retrieve them then bring them back to the spawn. From the outset, I was worried the traffic might be one way. Black site is a small, tight CQB arena with no lighting and lots of dead ends/cut throughts, so knowing your way around is huge advantage. All of the regulars set up on one table, then they all got put on the red team. But of a dud move from the folks running it in my opinion. The domination game did end up that way, with all the regulars knowing the sneaky little places to hide and pretty much locking us in the spawn for 10 minutes, but the second game that involved more movement was closely matched.

     

    There was also one regular who accused me of not taking my hits twice, which was a bit lame to be honest then whinged I was 'slow' to take one later one. In the penultimate game of the evening, the same player did the nonchalant dead player style walk past a few of us then shot us in the back. Again, just a bit lame really - genuinely never seen the point of doing that and it just tempts other people into shooting everyone they see just in case. It was only my second time there and said player was there both times. I think I'd give it another go but if that player is there again, acting the same way, that would be it for me.

     

     

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