Rogerborg

Frikkin lasers. They've been promised for decades, but have yet to appear as robust, man-portable units. Cold comfort to combatants in the field now. Shotguns are a known quantity, can be churned out cheaply in big numbers, and work in trenches and buildings too. It's what both Ukrainian and Russian troops are crying out for, and I think we should be listening to them, rather than gambling on a wunderwaffe countermeasure becoming available, let alone the decade or so it would likely take us to get it into the field.

It may turn out to be a great gun to win the last war, or three or five wars ago. But combatants in Ukraine today are crying out for shotguns, or anything shotgun-like, right down to hand-made ersatz shot rounds for 5.45mm rifled barrels. One USMC Colonel is pushing for urgent shotgun training against UAVs. We're currently procuring an L85 replacement, and the thinking seems to be like-for-like. I wonder if we should be having a radical re-evaluation of that, given the targets and threats that exist now, let alone in the next conflict.

£450, in stock, with 3 magazines. Doesn't come with the carry handle or magic Luke Juice though.

You might get lucky, I took a year off but found one of my site memberships (which is all "UKARA" is) was still accepted. If you're planning to play at the same site that issued your membership, I'd ask them if they can renew it. They might be more minded to do it if you ask on-site while playing. If the answer is no, you can still ask retailers if they'll sell to you anyway. They're in the business of selling, not of not selling. Some are sticklers, some don't really care, some even run their own completely bogus schemes. You'll find a way.

How's the trigger? My cheap Jing Gong G36C is light, sturdy and has great ergonomics. The only thing I don't like is the loooong 2-stage V3 trigger. If Novritsch has sorted that, it'll strengthen the argument for it. Dress-up wise, I switched to a STANAG magwell and run M4 mags, and often just attach a MOLLE 3 x mag-pouch to the stock, making it a grab-and-go gun. It's a shame he's not doing them in beige, because they make you invisible in a typical CQB environment.

Why would I pay for a gun to have been "repaired" - and it will doubtless need it again soon if it's actually shooting 48rps. No wonder half the mags are unused, it's probably never worked for long enough to get through them. If you have that money to spend, buy one for £450 new (or less for used but stock) and send it off to Luke at Negative to be turned into a usable wankergun, with known components.

Mmm, we've covered this a few times here. Early "bio" BBs (before my time) did seem prone to swelling and shattering, and I had some 0.43g "bio" that experienced some slight surface crazing after years in the garage. But now we're onto PLA, which under woodland conditions might degrade in centuries rather than millennia for ABS. "Bio" is mostly marketing - but at least the prices are nearer parity now, so I use PLA anyway outdoors as it works as well as ABS, and requires less adulteration with Mystery Mass as you go above 0.2g.

"Permitted activities", of which only airsoft skirmishing is listed. And we could lose that at the stroke of a pen, as it's not even regulatory, let alone statutory. Uh... so, they can't sell to you under any circumstances other than by adding £5 to the price? 🤨

Trust me, bro.

Trusting you on BB weight? "Player was not ejected" is tragic. If there's no sanction for running hot, what's the point of checking? 😕

Is the Coke[*] can test a joke to you? [*] and/or Sprite. Irn Bru cans do not work, being made of girders.

He's "thinking" of selling it, but he doesn't really want to sell it. Pretty common.

Mmm. Biohazard is pretty good, and did actually in-game chrono an HPA pistol user who I fingered for blasting me shockingly hard. And they checked his gun with their own 0.2g BBs, also good. But what if he was actually running heavy BBs? My fingernail chrono suggests that he was.

That makes sense for CQB sites, it's what BioHazard and the Depot do near me. Outdoors, sites don't tend to do it because of the wider range of BB weights, but I think that's a bogus argument. Sites could be putting in (for the sake of argument) 0.36g BBs, which are at the upper end of what AEGs are going to be using, and in the DMR range. That's going to flush out most rogues, except for a few edge cases where people are Joule creeping with 0.4g+, so keep a single speedloader with 0.46g handy for bolties. If the event that someone does come out hot with 0.36g but claims they're OK with some pov-spec BBs, a third speedloader with 0.25g can confirm that. It really doesn't take much preparation to do this, but it seems to be beyond most sites. And of course, it only tells you what they're chronoing at, at the chrono, not 30 seconds later.

Probably bought it for £60 there, like I did last year.

Wait, have we been agreeing all this time? 😕

Thoughts conveyed. This drama too shall pass, and it'll pass sooner if you ignore it. If you're bothered by the feedback, just create a new account: it's not like reputation matters there.

Why would someone planning to lie to you tell such an obvious lie? They'd be under 1.2J with anything up to 0.45g anyway. We're talking about the situation where Harry Hotgun says "Yeah, mate, using point twos today, mate", chronos at 350fps, then walks onto the field shooting 2J with the 0.36g that he's really got loaded. How does trusting him about the BB weight catch that?

/thread AirsoftHub isn't going to give a stuff. Some joker posted an advert purporting to be a real Glock - with a loaded magazine - there. Multiple people reported it to them, and yet it was up for months, and might still be there for all I know. I know this drama seems real to you and your, uh, "friend", but in the real world...

I honestly have no idea what this is meant to mean. If my gun is shooting hot with 0.36g, but tell you that I'm using 0.25g, how can you tell? It does seem likely that insurers are happy with sites running a fundamentally farcical "Trust me bro" system. Until something does go wrong, and then they might discover that they were never really happy with it. "Trust me bro" chrono doesn't do that. Oh, I fully agree. But what I really care about are catching and ejecting people shooting hot in the field, because that's the actual risk. At that point, I don't really care what lies they told earlier - and they may not have told any, they might have just pulled a hot bag out of a gun and walked straight on with it. All that really matters is that they are running a hot gun. And the only way to catch that is by chronoing on the field, using BBs of a known weight.

Then what was the point of the chrono? If you believe players about their BB weight, why wouldn't you just believe them when they say "I'm shooting at 1.1J" ? It's a genuine question. If we can agree that telling a simple lie make the chrono calculation meaningless, then does it really matter what the lie is?

On that, I did some health and safety liability training last century - specifically about how to avoid being sued or charged when things go wrong, as they will. It was drilled in that the worst thing you can do from a liability perspective is to identify a risk, and then put in place inadequate mitigation, because what you're doing is creating the rod that the HSE (or an insurer) will use to beat you. "You claimed that all players must be checked before playing. So run us through how Harry Hotgun evaded your checks and injured Tiny Tim, and why your process failed to anticipate and prevent that." How would you defend pre-game chrono, especially with "Trust me, bro" BB weights? We all know that it's trivial to cheat it, it's not a secret. 🤷‍♂️

This sounds like a job for... https://www.thecageairsoft.co.uk/perun-nozz-x-nozzle-system/