mightyjebus

its solid to be honest. I went back to the original motor as the high speed one was junk. I've got another 25000 motor coming next week that I'll fit and get back to crazy binary fire. I had someone message me a while back as they had problems with theirs feeding but every magazine I've tried (and I've got quite a few different brands) all work fine. Taiwangun as showing as "coming soon" so you might want to hold off until they get their new shipment. I'm hoping the Tan version arrives at the same time and I'll grab one. Oh and I've S hopped the inner barrel so it now chucks .36g about 65 meters.

These externals are the same quality as the Dboys AEGs. I think the material, fit and finish is good and the hop up and inner barrel do the job but its always an option to upgrade especially if you want to increase the range.

no real reason as they will probably be very similar based on price.

Vector AEG

CM.650A Mosfet Edition review – a replica of the SR47 assault rifle. A brief history of the SR47. There was a requirement sent to Knights Armament to produce a battle rifle capable of firing the 7.62x39mm round and use AK47 style magazines but keep the familiar rifle controls of the M16 family. At a cost of $1M dollars KA produced 7 rifles for the USSOCOM. The rifle titled SR47 never reached it’s intended goal of being mass produced and there are only 7 rifles in existence somewhere within the USSOCOM world. The idea behind the rifle was to allow SF personnel to replenish their ammunition using captured weapons and weapon stores and removing the need for a re-supply helicopter to be put at risk or reveal the location of SF operators in Afghanistan. The weapon ultimately failed for a number or reasons and 6 rifles did make their way to the war on terror. The most likely failure of the rifle was the result of not knowing where the captured ammo came from, how good the captured magazines would be, tight M16 style tolerances unlike the Ak47 and fouling of the working parts due to a direct gas impingement system and not a gas piston system similar to the AK or HK416 rifles. Basically it was a design that took all the crap parts of the M16 and AK platform and joined them together. The CYMA CM.065A is their interpretation of the SR47 and is a budget line AEG with a Mosfet fitted as standard. Inside the box you get the AEG, Hicap magazine, battery, battery charger, cleaning/unjamming rod and some basic paperwork. The AEG is very lightweight, and this is due to the AEG being mostly made of polymer. I’d comfortably say that you could run around the woods all day with this AEG and not notice it. It would be ideal for a younger player or someone who might find carrying a full metal AEG all day a problem. The polymer seems to be strong and doesn’t seem to have any weak spots as far as I can see. I’ve highlighted below just how many parts of this rifle are metal. As you can see it’s pretty limited but for an AEG costing £109 I’m not surprised. Starting from the front and working back I will show the parts that make up this AEG. First up is the flash hider. This is a plastic copy of the M4 style bird cage flash hider and is just jammed onto the threads of the outer barrel and there isn’t a grub screw securing it to the AEG. It’s not going to fall off easily as it’s jammed on tight but there are actually no threads inside the flash hider. This is a first for me to be honest. The front RAS rail is a copy of the Knights Armament SR15 rail but all in plastic including the delta ring. It seems thick enough and shouldn't snap too easily and the picatinny slots accept all the accessories I tried on there. The front sight is a plastic copy of the Troy front sight and folds up and down. There is no adjustment for height of the sight post. The magazine release is one of the few metal parts on this AEG and can be used 2 ways. You can release the magazine by pushing the button on the right hand side, the same way as a M4 or you can push forward on the lever inside the back of the magwell like an AK. You are unlikely to use it the AK way as the lever doesn’t protrude far enough out of the magwell to be useable. It really needed to be 1cm longer to be useful. The selector is made of plastic and clicks nicely into each firing position. The rear sight is a plastic copy of the KAC pop up sight and has adjustments of elevation and windage. Another of the rare metal parts is the end plate sling loop. This is nicely made and gives you the option to sling the weapon. The stock pipe is cast metal with the castle nut moulded into it. On top of that sits the crane stock. The rear of the crane stock is removal able to allow a battery to be fitted. There is plenty of storage inside the stock pipe and crane stock to fit a lot of different battery sizes however don’t both using a11.1V LIPO but more on that later. Removing the front retaining pin allows the upper and lower receiver to be split. The front pin isn’t captive but does have an Allen headed bolt to stop you loosing the pin when it’s attached to the AEG. Splitting the rifle in to should be done carefully as the hop unit and inner barrel stay attached to the gearbox and you need to remove the upper receiver and then twist the hop unit and barrel out of the lower receiver. When you piece the rifle back together make sure you attach the hop and barrel to the front of the gearbox before sliding the upper receiver on. The gear boasts a quick-change spring but I found that it was anything but quick change. You need to remove the stock and stock pipe and then turn the bearing spring guide into the slots in the back of the gearbox shell to remove the spring. I did several times and couldn’t get the thing to come out. I ended up lining it up in the cut-outs then used the stock pipe retaining screw to pull it out. I chopped my main spring 3 times to get to the required FPS I wanted and all 3 times I had to so the same thing with the stock pipe screw to get the spring guide out. Looking at the accessories in the box, you get a charger with European pins, a 8.4v Ni-MH 1300Mah battery and a Hicap magazine. The battery charger isn’t great. You’d probably want to just throw it away and buy something better quality. The battery is actually fine to use and I tested it out and get the same speed when firing as a 7.4V LIPO. The magazine is a 400/450 hicap magazine with a thumb wheel on the bottom to compress the main spring. It’s the usual CYMA good quality magazine that fits inside the magwell nicely. I’ve tried 1 other type of magazine (midcap palm AK magazine) which feeds fine but wobbles inside the magwell and would probably need some Velcro adding inside the magwell if you wanted to run these magazines. I’ll try some other magazines later to see how the fit and feed. So how does it shoot for a £109 AEG? Well good and bad to be honest. With a 7.4V LIPO or supplied battery it fires fine with a snappy semi auto trigger response and an average full auto rate of fire. The downside seems to be that it doesn’t like or want to use 11.1V LIPO batteries. I forgot to mention that when you usually plug a battery into an AEG with a Mosfet you get a beep letting you know everything is good. Not the CYMA one, oh no, you get a full-blown tune coming out the thing. It’s a bit amusing to be honest but will wear off quickly, I think. When you plug a 11.1V in it goes into a continuous singsong until you unplug the battery. Maybe I have a duff one but if not then 11.1V batteries can’t be used. Before I forget here’s a couple of more observations. The inner barrel is around 350mm and the inner bore seems to be 6.06mm and is crowned on the end. Accurate range is around the 45m mark and the hop up rubber handles .2g BB’s easily however I haven’t tried anything heavier yet. Initial conclusion is it’s not a good or bad AEG. It’s cheap, fires ok, very lightweight and has a decent snappy trigger, on semi, even with a 7.4 LIPO. The price is appealing however there are better options out there (think DE) for around the same price. Its appeal is going to be limited to either someone starting out who wants something cheap that works or someone more die-hard who wants to storm Tora Bora as a USSF fighter but on a budget (and it’s unlikely they will find the Hurricane SR47 conversion kit nowadays). I’ll get around to trying out different BB weights, stripping out the gearbox and testing different magazines in the near future.

CYMA SR47 - review to follow

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Just fitted a high speed motor and the speed has went from awesome to insane especially when on binary fire. love it!

Did you see any noticable difference with the High torque motor?

I'm going to try both. I think the biggest gain will be seen with a 7.4 using a high speed motor. Using a 11.1 might be too much.

I S hopped my inner barrel and added a prometheus flat hop rubber (Blue) and a Prometheus hop tensioner (also blue) and I can now shift .36g with ease. I've also uploaded the 3D battery extension for anyone who wants to print 1 off. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4352413 I've got a high speed motor in the post and I'll be interested in seeing what different it makes.

I need to tweak it slightly then it will go up on thingiverse for free. I'll post a link here once done

good video and internals look good. This also saves me stripping mine until I break it

here's a couple of pictures. You can easily get a 11.1v 1200Mah LIPO inside. I've made it long enough that the stock locks into position and adds a bit more support to the extension. I'll put the extension up on thingiverse once I do a bit more tidying up of the model.

I haven't opened the gearbox yet. The main reason is it works very well and I want to run it in anger before opening the gearbox up. I've seen nothing on the build quality so far to indicate that the gearbox will be rubbish. I'm inclined to think it might actually be good inside.

Pheas youtube review

inner barrel is 215mm long I also found a youtube video from DE and it looks like there will be a tan version released as well. Also of interest is DE state that if you put a better motor inside the binary firing will be even faster.

VFC gas block fitted after much swearing. It's not a direct fit and took a bit of filing, bashing etc to make it work.

Battery extension printed and fitted.

sorry mate, tell your wallet I'm sorry!

I agree. Normally when I review airsoft guns there is usually some soft of negative point but I'm finding it hard to find anything slightly wrong with the DE I just reviewed. I think that if all the DE models work as well as this then the big boys are going to have to step up to compete.

I forgot to mention I used 4 differnet brand/type of magazines and didn't have any feed issues with any of them. Supplied mag - good Hicap Pmag - good Midcap Emag - good Lonex fast mag - good

lol..that teaches me for rushing

So I tested the AEG today using various weighted BB's and the results are: 0.2g upto and including 0.28g no problem with hop or overhop 0.3g upwards don't hop. I'll probably run 0.28g BB's until I get around to S hopping the inner barrel. If you buy 1 and want to run heavier BB's then you will need to look at another hop rubber/bucking/hop unit to run the heavier BB's. I also tried to measure the inner barrel as I'm curious to see what the inner diameter is however I ran into a couple of snags. The first being the flash hider. The grub screw that holds it on and the flash hider actually have thread lock on them. I wasn't expecting this for such a cheap AEG and is something normally seen on high end AEG's. I had to end up press fitting a star drive bit into the grub screw to get it out and used set of pipe pliers to get the flash hider off. This sounds like a negative but its not. It just means the build quality coming from DE is pretty high. You can see on the picture below the red residue of the threadlock on the inside of the flash hider. Once I got the flash hider off I used my calipers to measure the inside of the inner barrel and got a weird reading of 7.4mm as I pushed the calipers in further it got smaller 6.4 until I couldn't fit the calipers in any further. It turns out the inner barrel has a taper for the last 15mm of the inner barrel. Again this came as a surprise on such a low cost AEG. I haven't stripped the gearbox yet but I did find this good photo on Taiwangun showing the internals. I've pretty much set on this layout for now (apart from a 3D printed battery entender which is printing as I type this). If anyone is interested it's now £104 on Taiwangun and this is a mental price for such a good little AEG. I'm tempted to go buy one of the longer models as I think this whole series from DE could be very good value for money. *EDITED as I don't know which way a red dot goes on a rifle

I did a quick field strip and found tha the gearbox is a quick spring change version but it's anything but quick change if you don't have a very long 4mm allen key. I had to jury rig something to get it out. This is the offending bolt. I wish they had used a normal star headed bolt. Getting the spring out is easy one you get the stock pipe off. I swapped my spring for a Modify S90+ and now I have an FPS of 310. I might try a S100 to see if I can get close to 345. The hop unit is plastic but seems good enough for the job. I'm going to try a few differnet BB weights tomorrow to see how it handles up to .36g