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Spring M rating in relation to bolt action rifles
Impulse replied to Reef's topic in Guns, Gear & Loadouts
I'm assuming you don't mean that you have an m110 spring in the bolt rifle expecting more than 1.2J, because m110 would get 1.2J(ish) and that would be my expectation. I'm assuming you mean you had an m130 or something and were expecting 1.8J? I am a gas gun person now, so my understanding of spring stuff is older knowledge, but I will attempt to give some sort of answer from my experience building spring VSRs a few years back So, the M rating is essentially a ballpark estimate of the m/s speed of a 0.2 BB. M100 = 100m/s with a 0.2 BB, or 328fps, M110 = 110m/s, or 360fps, and so on and so forth. AEG and bolt action springs do tend to be designed differently because they are different systems, but the M rating if it has one should be the same, for the platform it's designed for. For example: The m100 AEG spring for my m14 and the sp100 spring (Laylax use sp to denote, but it's the same thing) for my VSR are rated for the same power, but they're very different springs. VSR springs tend to be a lot longer than AEG springs because the VSR cylinder is a lot longer than an AEG cylinder, so if I put a VSR spring in my m14, it's going to have a wildly different power. The VSR sp100 spring is designed so that when that spring is compressed in a VSR with the VSR's compression distance, it will produce the force to propel the 0.2 BB at 100m/s. However, if I put that in an AEG which has a much shorter space, the spring is compressed more and therefore will produce a lot more force when extended, since the spring is compressed a lot more in that much shorter AEG gearbox. The opposite is also true. If you get an AEG spring and put it in a VSR, it will produce far less force (and will probably be less consistent too) since it's supposed to compress more and extend less, but the VSR's cylinder is massively longer. It's also why there are specific springs for the TM PSG1, because that gearbox was pretty different, though I also think it is the same for the v2.5 gearbox in the SR-25 and now I want to dig mine out again to try and fine tune the power again. Probably won't because I never use it, but you've given me food for thought. And after we've considered all of this, then we also have to consider cylinder to barrel ratio (yay, maths!), but I don't think that's going to be the issue here. It could very much be an issue (I don't know your build so I can't say) and will be a factor when it comes to power, but I don't think it is going to cause 0.6J difference on .3s and it's a whole other thing on its own and I don't want to bore everyone here with a wall of text as I talk about it (again). Look, long range stuff is my jam and I like it, okay? 🤣 -
Spring M rating in relation to bolt action rifles
Colin Allen replied to Reef's topic in Guns, Gear & Loadouts
Why were you expecting 1.8J from an M110 spring? -
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Spring M rating in relation to bolt action rifles
Hudson replied to Reef's topic in Guns, Gear & Loadouts
It could be a variety of things. A poor air seal, damaged bucking, using a shorter barrel (generally I've found that the standard 428mm length inner for VSRs gives closest to what they should, if you have a G-spec length barrel then you'll need to go up in spring strength). What rifle and set-up are you using? An M110 giving 1.2J seems not too far off what I'd expect though. -
I understand that the spring M rating refers to meters per second, firing .20 BB's in an AEG rifle. So I worked out using Code Red's converter that M110 spring should give you roughly 360fps and 1.2j? I have a M110 spring in the bolt rifle and when Chrono'd the weekend only got 1.2j with .30 BB's. I was expecting around 1.8j with this spring. Does the M rating only refer to AEG's or all Airsoft weapons? Have I screwed up my rifle or am I missing something? Thanks
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Vapor pressure of propane at room temperature of 25 degrees C is 8.3bar / 122PSI Probably need to be removing them then, if you can make them work without the NPAS great, but I doubt it. If you need a UK supplier of a better NPAS, Jaeger Precision makes them as well https://jaegerprecision.co.uk/products/jaeger-precision-mws-npas-adjustable-valve
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The issue you will have is that you'll often need a fairly high pressure for the rifle to cycle consistently. Airsoft green gas/propane is around 140psi at room temperature, so that's a good place to start with a reg setting, then see if you need the NPAS to bring it down to playable limits.
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Rogerborg replied to SkywardSoul117's topic in Guns, Gear & Loadouts
Damn, you're taking this seriously. Good call on the D30, and the 5150 fan. Mine's round the back, and I'm forever trying to find a ducting solution that works reliably. Having it on the front and blowing straight down is a great idea.