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This is screenshot from Battlefield 6 trailer - can someone let me know why military would use mesh lower face protection? :)

 

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Wow - you learn every day!!!! 

Honestly I tough "real boys" would have something more sophisticated that what we commonly using on our game day :D

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1 minute ago, Ajax said:

Wow - you learn every day!!!! 

Honestly I tough "real boys" would have something more sophisticated that what we commonly using on our game day :D


No point reinventing the wheel when a mesh mask will be just as good and cheap already. As for why a pilot would be wearing one, who knows. I imagine battlefield creators just thought it looked cool lol

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Now I will wear it with pride as well :D 

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55 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Wow - you learn every day!!!! 

Honestly I tough "real boys" would have something more sophisticated that what we commonly using on our game day :D

 

I mean they're using AliExpress gear in Ukraine rn on both sides. 

 

Partly out of desperation, partly because something that does a crap job is better than nothing at all.

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1 hour ago, Austeyr said:

No point reinventing the wheel

This. Governments are notoriously tight fisted so would pick the cheapest option available (although it also wouldn't surprise me if they doubled the budget doing feasibility studies to tell them what anyone with common sense would already know)

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This is one of the first ones I can remember (UKSF - Exercise Winchester Accord, May 2016). Its worn in place of a Balaclava when the only reason to wear one is OPSEC as it helps with "not breathing out your arse".  Its not PPE. 

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I still don't get it myself, a mesh lower face mask seems pretty marginal to me when up against shrapnel. And as to why the Metropolitan Police would be wearing them proper boggles my noggin. But I was never any kind of armed forces so what do I know.

 

But I will say I was VERY glad I was wearing mine yesterday as I was shot HARD in the head by something full auto that felt like well over 2 joules, more a full auto sniper. But my mesh mask with ear pieces and US surplus ESS goggles saved me from losing teeth I have no doubt at all.

So yeah, lower face mesh and ESS for the win I say.

 

I still bled though and I'm now considering a helmet, which I never did before, as the beanie wasn't enough.* I always thought helmets were a bit much but now... well a thicker beanie at the very least.

 

*Plus he aimed for my head not centre mass, AND fired another burst at my face after I called it and raised my hand. I'm left wondering what I did wrong that someone disliked me so much that they wanted to cause me pain. I called all my (frequent) hits, wasn't anything but nice to everyone I spoke with, complimented people's kit and guns, I don't have any political or controversial morale patches, deliberately steer clear of talking politics so... why?

I've been playing airsoft for 10 years+ now and I've NEVER been hit with a full auto like that before.

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1 hour ago, Defender90 said:

I still don't get it myself, a mesh lower face mask seems pretty marginal to me when up against shrapnel. And as to why the Metropolitan Police would be wearing them proper boggles my noggin. But I was never any kind of armed forces so what do I know.

 

But I will say I was VERY glad I was wearing mine yesterday as I was shot HARD in the head by something full auto that felt like well over 2 joules, more a full auto sniper. But my mesh mask with ear pieces and US surplus ESS goggles saved me from losing teeth I have no doubt at all.

So yeah, lower face mesh and ESS for the win I say.

 

I still bled though and I'm now considering a helmet, which I never did before, as the beanie wasn't enough.* I always thought helmets were a bit much but now... well a thicker beanie at the very least.

 

*Plus he aimed for my head not centre mass, AND fired another burst at my face after I called it and raised my hand. I'm left wondering what I did wrong that someone disliked me so much that they wanted to cause me pain. I called all my (frequent) hits, wasn't anything but nice to everyone I spoke with, complimented people's kit and guns, I don't have any political or controversial morale patches, deliberately steer clear of talking politics so... why?

I've been playing airsoft for 10 years+ now and I've NEVER been hit with a full auto like that before.

As Chev said, its purely opsec, although why someone in the military would wear it on an exercise is beyond me, even if they were SF slumming it for the weekend, who there would care ?.

As for the plod though, completely different kettle of fish, particularly sfo's that work in the cities they live in, not being recognised in your downtime, or progressing in to undercover work, being recognised could put you in grave danger.

Had a row on here few years ago with an ignorant fuckwit who couldn't get his head around the principle of opsec, when I "criticised" an image of firearms officers on a raid in a public street, one in particular had tattoos on his neck & head, & a shaven mullet, this guy would stand out at a prodigy or def leopard concert, never mind walking down a Manchester street in police uniform & head uncovered.

Apparently personal freedom is more important than opsec to some people, whatever the potential consequences 🤯

 

I wonder what his pronouns are now ?🤣

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