Shayleon123 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Hi im starting airsoft soon and i want to import a DMR from the US because the fps is a lot higher (550) than the legal uk fps somthing around 300-400 i cant remember so if i import an airsoft gun from the us with a higher fps than the uk fps limit will it still be considered as an airsoft gun or air rifle will i need a licence will customs seize it and which licence(s) do i need and can i order the same gun without a licence if it is painted two-tone and if not will the gun be adjusted so that the fps is within the uk limits Thanks for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parado Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 To get any gun imported from any country you will need a licence or customs 'can' seize it. Meaning 'can' you get still have guns slip through customs even without a licence it's just luck. To get a gun imported it's preferable to a have your UKARA number printed on the box as customs can check it themselves, otherwise they'll have to call you for it. Regarding the FPS, it is fine. BUT YOU WILL need to downgrade it. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Parado said: To get any gun imported from any country you will need a licence or customs 'can' seize it. Meaning 'can' you get still have guns slip through customs even without a licence it's just luck. To get a gun imported it's preferable to a have your UKARA number printed on the box as customs can check it themselves, otherwise they'll have to call you for it. Regarding the FPS, it is fine. BUT YOU WILL need to downgrade it. Hope this helps. Where do you get a licence from? I am thinking of importing a gun and need to get mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parado Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Firstly read up on it: http://www.ukara.org.uk/ Summary of it, you get it at a local Airsoft site and you will of needed to have played 3 games in the past 2 months at the site. Some advice, if it's your first gun don't go overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Parado said: Firstly read up on it: http://www.ukara.org.uk/ Summary of it, you get it at a local Airsoft site and you will of needed to have played 3 games in the past 2 months at the site. Some advice, if it's your first gun don't go overseas. Okay thanks for the advice how much does the licence cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Where do you get a licence from? I am thinking of importing a gun and need to get mine. It's not an actual licence. To import a RIF you need one of the VCRA defences: For film / TV / theatrical production, a re-creation organisation or an Airsoft skirmisher Without those you can still import a 2 tone, but the sender will need to paint it in approved colours The UKARA scheme is the main skirmishes scheme, to become registered you need to play at a participating site 3 times in at least 2 months http://www.ukara.org.uk/player-registration.php Technically speaking if the imported gun exceeds the legal power rating it could become a firearm - and you would need to convince the police to grant you a firearms certificate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 But he said it was a licence? I am getting confused now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 minute ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Okay thanks for the advice how much does the licence cost? In itself it should not cost you anything - you will need to pay to play for the 3 games you attend & possibly pay to rent the equipment to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parado Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 It is a licence but you don't really need it, it is only there to ensure the world knows you are a airsofter and is going to use the RIF for airsoft. I don't have a licence and I have guns, but you will for anything overseas as customs will need a valid defence, and a licence is a form of a defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tommikka said: In itself it should not cost you anything - you will need to pay to play for the 3 games you attend & possibly pay to rent the equipment to play Do you have to pass a test to get the licence like a driving test? Or is it like a TV licence where you just have to give the goverment money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Parado said: It is a licence but you don't really need it, it is only there to ensure the world knows you are a airsofter and is going to use the RIF for airsoft. I don't have a licence and I have guns, but you will for anything overseas as customs will need a valid defence, and a licence is a form of a defence. I am getting really baffled now one said it's not a licence but you say it is? Its all a bit confusing can anyone else help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: I am getting really baffled now one said it's not a licence but you say it is? Its all a bit confusing can anyone else help? There is no 'licence' for an airsoft RIF Some people call the UKARA scheme a licence. It is not a licence, but a membership scheme of registered players to demonstrate that they are valid 'airsoft skirmishers' http://www.ukara.org.uk/questions.php Clarification of what UKARA is We do not issue licenses or permits to buy or own Airsoft guns. None are required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Do you have to pass a test to get the licence like a driving test? Or is it like a TV licence where you just have to give the goverment money. Neither There is no airsoft licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parado Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 It is a bit confusing, all that matters is to get something imported you will need a defence. Either that being a licence for film reenactment (which is a licence) or UKARA (which still is, but is kinda unneeded if you are buying from a store in the UK - aka I go to a site where they have a store attached to them, at lunch I can go into the shop and just buy a gun. The defence here is that they Know I am an airsofter as I am playing during that day and will mostly likely use that new gun during that day.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Parado said: It is a licence but you don't really need it, it is only there to ensure the world knows you are a airsofter and is going to use the RIF for airsoft. I don't have a licence and I have guns, but you will for anything overseas as customs will need a valid defence, and a licence is a form of a defence. It's not a licence - customs will want the recipient to give evidence (or a statement) that they have a valid defence under the VCRA A valid UKARA reference that matches you on their membership database is what some people call an 'airsoft licence' I have in fact imported airsoft equipment by filling in a customs database stating it is for use in paintball events, (a number of years ago though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 Let me get this right its not a licence but it is sort of? There seems to be a bit of conflicting info going on. Its not this difficult when I play nerf wars you airsofters like to make things awkward for newcomers like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 minute ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Let me get this right its not a licence but it is sort of? There seems to be a bit of conflicting info going on. Its not this difficult when I play nerf wars you airsofters like to make things awkward for newcomers like me. Newcomer that's been on the forum for 2 years making >3000 posts Nerfs are fine under the VCRA as they don't look close enough to firearms, and if they did look like a firearm then they have bright 2 tone colours so would legally be an 'IF' imitation firearm and VCRA exempt, just like painting an airsoft gun in bright 2 tone colours To import an airsoft gun painted in bright 2 tone colours there would be no issue To import a RIF (realistic imitation firearm) would need a defence, for airsoft that would be reasonable proof of being an airsoft skirmisher. The main scheme is the UKARA and customs will recognise that - not a licence but having your details on a central database as a result of playing at a participating site 3 times in at least 2 months, which enables you to go on the database for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeturner2001 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Let me get this right its not a licence but it is sort of? There seems to be a bit of conflicting info going on. Its not this difficult when I play nerf wars you airsofters like to make things awkward for newcomers like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parado Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Let me get this right its not a licence but it is sort of? There seems to be a bit of conflicting info going on. Its not this difficult when I play nerf wars you airsofters like to make things awkward for newcomers like me. No I blame the government for this. 11 minutes ago, Tommikka said: It's not a licence - customs will want the recipient to give evidence (or a statement) that they have a valid defence under the VCRA A valid UKARA reference that matches you on their membership database is what some people call an 'airsoft licence' I have in fact imported airsoft equipment by filling in a customs database stating it is for use in paintball events, (a number of years ago though) You will these days, I have had a few imported in and so have a few friends and every time we've needed UKARA - and they don't like accepting other defence. Friends had a vector seized for not having a UKARA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted April 1, 2017 Head Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Shayleon123 said: Hi im starting airsoft soon and i want to import a DMR from the US because the fps is a lot higher (550) than the legal uk fps somthing around 300-400 i cant remember so if i import an airsoft gun from the us with a higher fps than the uk fps limit will it still be considered as an airsoft gun or air rifle will i need a licence will customs seize it and which licence(s) do i need and can i order the same gun without a licence if it is painted two-tone and if not will the gun be adjusted so that the fps is within the uk limits Thanks for reading If your gun has fps that is higher than UK site limit then you cannot use it unless you downgrade it to meet the site limit. Otherwise it is a "hot" gun. So then you will have to spend more money, e.g. buying a new lower powered spring, to meet UK limits. You need valid defence to import and prove that you have legal right to the gun, which is where UKARA membership helps as an accepted defence. TLDR; needs punctuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayleon123 Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 Jedi_Master thanks for the info i wasn't looking to play it on a site its just somthing to shoot with friends and just to own for fun so would i still be able to keep the power of the gun the same if i wasn't going to use it as a "hot" gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayleon123 Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 What would the max effective range of an airsoft gun be if it is using the maximum fps of the uk ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted April 1, 2017 Head Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, Shayleon123 said: What would the max effective range of an airsoft gun be if it is using the maximum fps of the uk ? 500fps (single shot not automatic) is the max power for a sniper rifle. A sniper rifle should have the best range and accuracy if correctly set up and zeroed. Other range factors are weight of BB, wind, elevation, and stabilty. So ball park range is 70m to 90m. Type word "sniper" into search and then wade though results to find some more specific useful posts and information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted April 1, 2017 Supporters Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Tommikka said: Newcomer that's been on the forum for 2 years making >3000 posts That was getting tips for a bit of dress up. The wife likes the uniforms and bit of the old Major Ramrod bedroom larp thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted April 1, 2017 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted April 1, 2017 Not sure if April Fools post... But this thread has been gold. The most I've laughed since the Alpha Wolves video review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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