Russian loadouts thread

[MSSW Rune]

I'm surprised there is no Russian loadouts thread here so I'll start with some of mine over the years starting with my most recent kits.

 

TsSN FSB Alfa 2015 WIP kit with bonus dogo pic

 

 

 

 

 

Centre 2016 FSB inspired kit

 

 

 

TsSN 2016 FSB USO

 

 

 

 

 

2015 TsSN Alfa inspired kit

 

 

 

2015 ROSN FSB Ingushetia

 

 

 

Thats some of my kits over the past year or so. I look forward to seeing all of yours

[Tamberlin]

Looks awesome, man! I'm starting a Russian loadout, so when I'm done, I'll post it here

[ImTriggerHappy]

Bloody geardos

 

This thread has tipped it time for a new hobby.

[MSSW Rune]

Looks awesome, man! I'm starting a Russian loadout, so when I'm done, I'll post it here

Thanks dude. I can't wait to see your kit. Are you planning on doing anything specific or just a free kit?

[Tamberlin]

Bloody geardos

 

This thread has tipped it time for a new hobby.

What?

[Tamberlin]

Thanks dude. I can't wait to see your kit. Are you planning on doing anything specific or just a free kit?

No idea just a woodland camo with a PKM, balaclava, helmet, chest rig etc.

[MSSW Rune]

Bloody geardos

 

This thread has tipped it time for a new hobby.

Nothing wrong with being a kit collector is there? Some people collect loads of guns and no one bats an eyelid. Kit makes me happy so that's what I collect. The units I depict also really interest me so it's fun reading up on them and doing my research. Everyone has their own niche

[MSSW Rune]

No idea just a woodland camo with a PKM, balaclava, helmet, chest rig etc.

The sky is your limit then. There are some really cool mvd kits you could build around that or just buy some cool Russian stuff. Either way pkm's make everything look cool.

[Lozart]

Bloody geardos

 

This thread has tipped it time for a new hobby.

Or you could just ignore this and go about your day...

[ImTriggerHappy]

Or you could just ignore this and go about your day...

Could do but while I love airsoft I really cant cope with all the geardo crap lately. Thats why I am looking forward to the forum game because it will be good old no nonsense airsoft. All fun no drama and if anyone turns up wearing stupid amounts of gear like in those photos they will be politely asked to remove it so hit taking doesn't become an issue.

[Baz JJ]

Looks good mate.

Never mind, there are always those who feel that airsoft should just be about airsoft and skirmishing in its native form.

Of course, airsoft is only a medium, a type of replica gun, which enables lots of other quite different activities which include collecting loadouts, period reenactments like WW2 and milsims etc just to name a few.

 

There was a thread the other day about this forum being a bit quiet.

 

Either a forum is broad minded and tolerant of all the different ways people use airsoft to indulge in what they enjoy or it becomes a niche focussed on one particular part, which will of course affect its numbers.

 

This is probably why there are lots of specialist groups spread across the internet so like minded people can discuss what they enjoy e.g. Bolsheviks for Russian stuff.

[Baz JJ]

On a different tack, there is an increasing number of players touting AK derivatives and I see G&G are recognising this by launching AK receivers with western stocks etc to attract a more general audience. Maybe players are getting a little fed up of the common M4/AR15 platform and looking for something different ?

 

Anyway, Russian loadouts are often seen as expensive and confusing because there are so many and you cant just buy it up the local army surplus store.

 

A guide to getting into Russian kit, starting from the basic economy solutions to the more rare would probably go down well.

[ImTriggerHappy]

Looks good mate.

Never mind, there are always those who feel that airsoft should just be about airsoft and skirmishing in its native form.

Of course, airsoft is only a medium, a type of replica gun, which enables lots of other quite different activities which include collecting loadouts, period reenactments like WW2 and milsims etc just to name a few.

 

There was a thread the other day about this forum being a bit quiet.

 

Either a forum is broad minded and tolerant of all the different ways people use airsoft to indulge in what they enjoy or it becomes a niche focussed on one particular part, which will of course affect its numbers.

 

This is probably why there are lots of specialist groups spread across the internet so like minded people can discuss what they enjoy e.g. Bolsheviks for Russian stuff.

This isn't airsoft its dress up. While I appreciate the aesthetics of his gear most of it is too heavy for airsoft and should never be worn.

Maybe it is time it became 3 very separate things.

 

Airsoft Skirmishing

Milsim

Military Cosplay

 

Either that or a 500fps limit on everything so people might still feel it.

[Baz JJ]

Either its gets split out or people are a little more tolerant and less vocal.

Im not a great fan of HPA personally but I dont comment on HPA threads because I suspect nobody cares what I think.

If people are asking for an opinion, fine. Players often post a picture of them in their latest loadout and ask for a critique in which case its fair game, but if people are just sharing a passion, then good for them. Variety is the spice of life and we do that on this island very well.

 

This isn't airsoft its dress up. While I appreciate the aesthetics of his gear most of it is too heavy for airsoft and should never be worn.

Maybe it is time it became 3 very separate things.

Airsoft Skirmishing

Milsim

Military Cosplay

[Tamberlin]

This isn't airsoft its dress up. While I appreciate the aesthetics of his gear most of it is too heavy for airsoft and should never be worn.

Maybe it is time it became 3 very separate things.

 

Airsoft Skirmishing

Milsim

Military Cosplay

 

Either that or a 500fps limit on everything so people might still feel it.

I reckon he'd still feel shots for the majority of these loadouts...

MilSims are incredibly popular in the airsoft world, so why do you dislike people trying to replicate the loadouts and uniforms of the countries they're trying to simulate?

[ImTriggerHappy]

Either its gets split out or people are a little more tolerant and less vocal.

Im not a great fan of HPA personally but I dont comment on HPA threads because I suspect nobody cares what I think.

If people are asking for an opinion, fine. Players often post a picture of them in their latest loadout and ask for a critique in which case its fair game, but if people are just sharing a passion, then good for them. Variety is the spice of life and we do that on this island very well.

 

 

I agree that variety is the spice of life but that doesn't mean everything should be included.

 

Airsofts has two main issues.

 

One is hit taking and I honestly believe that very few people consciously cheat. Most issues come from players wearing too much gear, which is generally only there for looks not purpose. Take backpacks for example no player needs a backpack to carry kit in your average skirmish. Milsim maybe but even then most kit could be left in your hq. A lot of military clothing is so thick that bbs fired from a distance or in the adrenaline rush never get felt.

Airsofters really should base their kit on what they need and think about the negative impact some of their gear has on the game.

 

The second thing is public perception. I used to play paintball which while seen as a bit geeky was generally accepted as a bit of fun and most people were up for trying. Airsoft on the other hand is way more awkard. First you start off with its like paintball but without the paint then you get into the weapons being more realistic looking and the fact that people like to dress up in military gear. Its at this point you get that look and the comments that you are playing soldiers then. Most none airsofters I know treat it with the same derision as playing Dungeons and Dragons. Take out all the dress up and play it as it should be then I am sure it would attract more people and be seen as less nerdy.

I have been trying to get my brother who is ex-military to play for ages but he refuses because he says that watching a bunch of wannabes pretend to play soldier is a joke and no pastime for grown ups. But he will play paintball because thats just fun.

 

If I as an airsofter find the whole thing a bit trainspotting weird how do you think it looks to most people?

 

To the OP I appreciate the effort you have put into your collection but stick by the fact it should just be a collection and maybe not airsoft gear.

[ImTriggerHappy]

I reckon he'd still feel shots for the majority of these loadouts...

MilSims are incredibly popular in the airsoft world, so why do you dislike people trying to replicate the loadouts and uniforms of the countries they're trying to simulate?

Arms and legs on few he would but centre mass not a hope in hell. The bottom one would be the worst all that material would absorb most bb impacts.

 

As for milsims I think they are a great idea in the fact that they require more thought and a more tactical game play. Also the idea of uniforms to seperate the teams for visual purposes is good but there is a point it all goes too far for me.

[Baz JJ]

Personally, I go for comfort at a skirmish and tend to just wear a chest rig to carry what I need for an hour or two until the next break.

Thats my choice but you have to respect the choice of others.

 

For some people, their enjoyment of a skirmish is dressing in a loadout of their choice. Providing they take their hits (and if theyre not because they dont feel it, that should be dealt with by the marshalling team), its up to them. Theyve paid their walk on and unless the rules forbid it, they have as much right as anybody else.

 

Concerning the military/walt thing, thats an age old argument. There will always be ex mil guys who resent airsofters. In the same way, there will be those who make money out of airsofters and those who dont give a rats either way. Soldiers are people and individuals and as such have lots of different viewpoints.

If you spend a large amount of time training and lets face it, often risking your life in the military, I can fully understand why they can get irritated by a Tescos shelf stacker masquerading as Seal Team 6 (no disrespect intended to either profession). Instead of seeing it as homage, they see it as a lessening or cheapening of their efforts.

I meet milsimmers sometimes who believe they are on a par with real serving SF because they've played a few hard core games at MOD facilities and go on some courses. Thankfully, its a very small minority.

 

However, our military largely fight for the freedom that allows us to have this choice. Ive got a mate who lives in Turkey and they have a lot of airsoft restrictions. Be thankful, that people can play as they want here.

 

We dont have to like it, but we do have to live with it.

[Baz JJ]

In regards to public perception, I was playing at Eversley once (it was a milsim in my defence) and we had a bit of the game where the Russians were having a secret meet with the rebels. One of the players turned up at the RV point in a Russian GAZ with his henchmen and after a few minutes, AK Toting rebels came out of the trees, barrels raised suspiciously.

 

Eversley has a few public thoroughfares and is located in Hampshire.

 

Two teenage girls on horses suddenly appeared coming up the track, They just rode past this frozen tableau and then one was heard to say "oh look Lucinda, men with toy guns".

 

We pi**ed ourselves with laughter but it sums it all up.

 

Tolerance and not taking yourself too seriously.

[MSSW Rune]

Arms and legs on few he would but centre mass not a hope in hell. The bottom one would be the worst all that material would absorb most bb impacts.

 

As for milsims I think they are a great idea in the fact that they require more thought and a more tactical game play. Also the idea of uniforms to seperate the teams for visual purposes is good but there is a point it all goes too far for me.

This makes me chuckle. Personally I wouldn't comment on kit if I hadn't used it as I don't have any issues with hit taking and nore do any of the locals I play with. The last one actually hurts the most as it's a thin summer suit and stings like a sod.

 

The excuse that people can't feel bbs in armour is just trying to cover up bad sportsmanship to be honest. I never have issues with it and if I'm ever unsure I just take a hit. As who cares most regens are just back 50 paces and count to 50. It's no skin off my back. I don't take airsoft to seriously unlike some of the milsim crowd so I'm normally just having a good laugh on site.

 

Interestingly my site has a really high percentage of ex and current serving guys and none of them have an issue with me or my kit. We just have fun playing with toy guns in the woods. That's one of the guys who served words not mine lol.

 

I think you have to stop caring what others think and try and have some fun for yourself. I would also maybe tune down all of the assumptions as you don't actually know me or my kit. That said I'm very approachable and if you're at a site with me in the South West your welcome to come and have a chat with me about it all. I'll even let you try some of it on if you like?

[MSSW Rune]

On a different tack, there is an increasing number of players touting AK derivatives and I see G&G are recognising this by launching AK receivers with western stocks etc to attract a more general audience. Maybe players are getting a little fed up of the common M4/AR15 platform and looking for something different ?

 

Anyway, Russian loadouts are often seen as expensive and confusing because there are so many and you cant just buy it up the local army surplus store.

 

A guide to getting into Russian kit, starting from the basic economy solutions to the more rare would probably go down well.

 

Yeah the scene has really picked up over the last 4 years or so. A guide wouldn't be a bad idea actually. I'll see what I can put together for some basic and cheaper kits to get people started and where is best to source the items. There are now dedicated stores in the UK who stock Russian kit so it's becoming quite easy to get now unlike 5 or 6 years ago.

 

I'll see what I can put together and people can add to it as they please if I make a new thread for it

[Baz JJ]

Yeah, I was under the impression that you had to go to Russia for kit as all I see are adverts for the main suppliers in Russia and Finland.

Im not really into Russian kit for my own use, but if I were, this would put me off.

[MSSW Rune]

Yeah there are 3 UK shops now I believe. 2 of which mainly just buy from Russia to order but have small bits in stock and one who stocks a fair bit UK side. Ru for you is one of the best choices as they have good UK stock and he's really reliable and honest. If you want something more specialist he will also order it in for you as he has friends in Russia who can hunt down what you want for very competitive price.

[Baz JJ]

Even more reasons for a guide.

 

I suspect that this people are well known to the inner circle and aficionados but largely unknown to your average weekend skirmisher.

 

Is Niko T one of these suppliers ?

[MSSW Rune]

Yes niko runs ru for you. Great guy to skirmish with and he has some of the most competitive prices about. I'll start a basic guide today and post it when I'm finished.