AndyGif290368 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Well the only way this thread will ever end is to throw the shop and parents under the bus and let the law courts decide by reporting it. At least there will be a court case on the books to inform us to the current legal interpretation of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarathe Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Well the only way this thread will ever end is to throw the shop and parents under the bus and let the law courts decide by reporting it. At least there will be a court case on the books to inform us to the current legal interpretation of the law. The shop contravened VCRA s.36 (1) (c ) - though it's entirely possible they thought they had a defence, on the basis of my previous post, they don't. If the purchaser retained legal title to the RIF, that's when it should go to court. The OP of this thread has not said that: Had a discussion on facebook with a 17 year old who was saying his local shop have sold him RIF's "legally" by selling them to his parents who gift them to him. As he plays regularly at their site and know him they consider that to be a legal defence. His parents do not play Airsoft. This store have got it wrong haven't they, or are they ok?! I can see the logic in their thinking, they aren't selling to an under 18 and they know its going to be used for Airsoft, however I don't think the rules work like that do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarathe Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 If I ran an airsoft store, I'd have "gift cards" for certain guns that parents could buy, and those with valid VCRA defences could come and "cash in", so to speak. Legally that wouldn't work because the offence doesn't say "sells for money". Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 14, 2017 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2017 As you have so far accused people of being illiterate, deaf, cognitively impaired and frankly just been down right irritating are you going to say sorry now and except you were very wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Legally that wouldn't work because the offence doesn't say "sells for money". Nice try though. How do you mean "sells for money"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxticus Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 HI, I'm 15 years old and im rather new, i have played 2 games in the last 2 months which is required for a site membership which as of a week from now i will have. I have bought all the gear i want/need but left the guns for last. Now im all for realism and authenticity and i feel a two tone gun would ruin my immersion. i am looking at buying the ASG Cz805 at £349.99 and the TM 1911 MEU at £124.99. Yes this is a lot of money for my first gun I'll be owning but i am familiar with the sport now and have the money too so i would like the best in my price range. I am just wondering if it is illegal for my dad to buy me the guns without a two tone service applied and it be legal, Also i am looking to order it online which could also be a hindrance. So could somebody help me out please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springs Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Baxticus said: HI, I'm 15 years old and im rather new, i have played 2 games in the last 2 months which is required for a site membership which as of a week from now i will have. I have bought all the gear i want/need but left the guns for last. Now im all for realism and authenticity and i feel a two tone gun would ruin my immersion. i am looking at buying the ASG Cz805 at £349.99 and the TM 1911 MEU at £124.99. Yes this is a lot of money for my first gun I'll be owning but i am familiar with the sport now and have the money too so i would like the best in my price range. I am just wondering if it is illegal for my dad to buy me the guns without a two tone service applied and it be legal, Also i am looking to order it online which could also be a hindrance. So could somebody help me out please? unless your dad holds a UKARA Membership or another form of defence then he wouldn't be able to purchase the weapon either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxticus Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Ah thanks mate no worries, How will my dad get a viable defense and UKARA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Baxticus said: Ah thanks mate no worries, How will my dad get a viable defense and UKARA He would have to become a regular player and play no less than 3 games in a minimum of 2 full months, just like everyone else does who wisjhes to be UKARA registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxticus Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, PT247 said: He would have to become a regular player and play no less than 3 games in a minimum of 2 full months, just like everyone else does who wisjhes to be UKARA registered. Oh that makes sense then, as i said before i don't want to be ruining a new rifle with a two tone color scheme. But as i am new i dont want people at my local site confronting me about having an RIF at 15 years old and being new to the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 They wouldn't, it is none of their business and there is nothing wrong with you having a RIF at any age. The issue is buying one, which you'll not be allowed to and unless your old man gets a defence he will not be allowed to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxticus Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Oh cheers mate,I'll speak to him about things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 He also wouldn't be able to buy you a gun using your own money as that would be a proxy sale, although if he gained ukara number he could buy one himself and gift it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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