Steviewev23 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Hi, I'm looking at buying the VFC HK417 GBBR for my next rifle but it's available in an Asia edition version and just wondering what the difference is? I know this rifle is available in a German edition as that's locked to semi auto only. Any help would be appreciated before I go sinking some big bucks into it. Thanks, Steve
Airsoft_Mr B Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Not too sure but I think they're lower powered. I've heard the EU / US version is more durable too. Wouldn't recommend you buy it though VFC make shite GBBRs apparently.
team flex Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 yes, will just say everyone on here will probably recommend the WE hk417 or whatever and you can also pick up some ra-tech parts as well. check out http://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/
Supporters jcheeseright Posted February 6, 2015 Supporters Posted February 6, 2015 the VFC 417 is supposed to be really good, know a few guys who have been running them over the winter and are quite impressed. Asia editions are normally MORE powerful than the EU editions, the VFC 417 asia edition for example is ~400fps on propane, while the EU edition is more like 300fps.
Supporters jcheeseright Posted February 6, 2015 Supporters Posted February 6, 2015 yes, will just say everyone on here will probably recommend the WE hk417 or whatever and you can also pick up some ra-tech parts as well. check out http://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/ WE don't make a HK417.
team flex Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 WE don't make a HK417. yes, what was i thinking, sorry the 416. I thought it was meant to be really bad, oh ok, well i trust jcheese, he knows his stuff! Airsoft_Mr B 1
Airsoft_Mr B Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 the VFC 417 is supposed to be really good, know a few guys who have been running them over the winter and are quite impressed. Asia editions are normally MORE powerful than the EU editions, the VFC 417 asia edition for example is ~400fps on propane, while the EU edition is more like 300fps. Huh well I posted a status about wanting a 416C and heard they are bad :| or at least the WE is supposedly much better
Steviewev23 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 From what I've read the vfc 416 isn't that great but the 417 is a big improvement. Plus WE don't make a 417. Thanks jcheeseright, if I get an Asia edition are the internals the same as an EU spec but tinkered with to get the higher fps and therefore under more strain? I'm new to the GGBR world so what would I need to do to get the fps up on a EU edition? Thanks in advance Steve
Supporters TheFull9 Posted February 7, 2015 Supporters Posted February 7, 2015 The exact differences vary. A lot of the time it's actually trademarks, i.e. the Asia edition will have full and realistic trades because US and European arms manufacturers have a much harder job preventing their sale in HK/Taiwain/China etc whereas once those items get to Europe and America with unlicensed trades they might get seized. Sometimes there'll be bigger differences, like materials used for a pistol slide etc. Overall the term doesn't have a catch-all meaning, you've just got to research the specific model you're looking at. If you open both the different versions' product pages at a retailer and study the descriptions and pictures closely you'll sometimes see where the differences are. If not then contact the retailer (e-mail or facebook).
Supporters M_P Posted February 7, 2015 Supporters Posted February 7, 2015 Huh well I posted a status about wanting a 416C and heard they are bad :| or at least the WE is supposedly much better The 416c and 417 are different guns. Vfc do a good 417.
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted February 7, 2015 Supporters Posted February 7, 2015 well different gun but know the WE 416 don't have TradeMarks @ LWA (bought cheapo D-Boys instead then) but VFC one is licensed with markings n bits However as said above buy one from far east and it could very well have markings on them over here & US they are quite hot on markings if not officially licensed etc.........
Steviewev23 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 It's licensed by Umarex so I'm pretty sure it will have the correct trademarks on it, so I can't imagine it's that.
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted February 7, 2015 Supporters Posted February 7, 2015 soz forgot you was talking about VFC / Umarex which we all said has TM's on it unlike some WE models - my bad.... must be the higher fps model then @ 400+fps
Steviewev23 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 Right I think I've cracked it, there both exactly the same FPS wise as everywhere that sells it says between 360-380 FPS. But the difference I've noticed upon very close scrutiny is that the EU version says cal. 6mm BB on the right side above the pistol grip in medium sized white writing whereas the Asia edition doesn't have this instead its in very minute etching on the dust cover.
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