what gbbr ?

[valleylad]

you all been most probably been asked this many times guys but here we go again ... looking to buy a upgraded WE gbbr from www.airsoftzone.co.uk a few questions guys... is this site a good site to buy from ? and are the upgraded gbbr from this site any better than the standard rifles I could buy anyways ? thanks for your time.

ryan.

[Chock]

Yeah, that site is okay to buy from, although unless you have a valid defence in relation to the VCR Act, they'll charge you a tenner for two-toning your gun.

 

Check out the WE M16 A3 by the way, it's a bargain at the price they are offering it for on many sites (usually around 240 quid if you look about a bit), and is a very good GBB, even when completely stock. It even has some nice recoil, strips down pretty much like a real M16 A3, and is mostly made of metal too, so it feels realistic when you handle it. Being an ArmaLite (or M16/AR15/M4 or whatever you prefer to call that type of weapon) it's a good platform for upgrading at a later date with various bits and pieces, because there are way more upgrade bits out there for M-16/M4 variants than for most other types of rifle, and spare mags are easy to come by too, although I think you get a 30 round mag with that one anyway if I recall correctly.

[valleylad]

ah don't mind the extra charge if the job is done good.and I used to have a cm16 m4 raider l and it was bloody awful haha.so now I got the cash in my pocket burning a big hole and im looking to buy a fully or semi upgraded gbbr from this site.is there any difference between ghk gbbr and the we gbbr ? I seen some ghk rifles on proairsoftsupplies and been thinking either ghk or WE.basically looking for the biggest bang for my buck with all the bells and whistles on .... so to speak lol.thanks for your time.

ryan.

[Mr Monkey Nuts]

What did you find awful about the raider?

[Chock]

Yup, there are differences between GHKs and WEs, although they do often make similar replicas of guns, so you could be forgiven for thinking that it might simply be 'badge engineering', which does go on in the airsoft world, but not in the case of GHK and WE who are different manufacturers. Both are well respected and make decent stuff, so it is often down to subtle differences between their various offerings as to which one might prefer. This video comparing a WE and a GHK PDW pretty much epitomises that:

 

 

What you end up buying depends to a large extent on what floats your boat, and occasionally whether you like 'tinkering with stuff. A quick surf around this and other airsoft sites will quickly confirm that the vast majority of airsofters like gadgets and toys, and like tinkering with them and customising them almost as much (and in some cases more) than they like shooting people with them. So in regard to the biggest bangs for your buck, if you are the sort who likes to mess about with tools and build or customise something yourself, then 'the biggest bang for your buck' might start out with buying something relatively inexpensive as a base platform, and then spending more on it to make it something which is vastly improved and more specialised and personal. The WE M16 A3 is one which people do that a lot with, many people turning it into a Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). An even cheaper route for doing that, would be to take the inexpensive A&K SVD Dragunov (which when stock, is not not a gas blow back), then modify the living hell out of it to make it a semi-automatic gas blow back (there are kit parts which will enable you to do this, thus making it a self-loader, like the real SVD Dragunov DMR is, and that's not a bad thing either with the A&K, as it is quite hard to cock it by hand). The A&K can be had for as little as 130 quid new, so we are not talking megabucks here, and a plus point for two-toners, is that it actually looks okay in two tone black and green, since apart from the polymer stock - which in fact the present real SVDs also have - it is made completely from decent quality black anodised metal. The popularity of the SVD Dragunov in movies and computer games, and its somewhat macabre reputation as 'the Taliban Widowmaker' in Afghanistan, means it has a big following among airsoft modders, thus there are a lot of aftermarket upgrade parts for airsoft Dragunovs, everything from replacement wooden and polymer stocks, upgraded springs, sears, pistons etc, with even replicas of the Dragunov-specific PSO-1 telescopic sight found on the real thing. There are even online forums dedicated to modifying airsoft SVDs.

 

So having an airsoft rifle which can be modded and tinkered with is a bit of a hobby in itself even when you are not shooting the thing, and a good 'evening hobby for the Winter". I'm not a sniper when I do airsoft skirmishing, but even I couldn't resist getting an A&K Dragunov to mess about with, in fact, i was up far too late last night doing exactly that, modifying how I have its PSO-1 sight fitted to it and messing about with the trigger pull. So if the notion of messing about with guns as well as shooting them appeals, then think carefully about what you might like to buy, although of course you don't have to just buy one weapon.

[valleylad]

the raider was just not what I was looking for sadly.the kick the accuracy and the power seemed to be off ...could be I had a dud rifle but it put me off the cheaper end of the market.so now im looking to spend about 400-500 on a gbbr.and I don't mind buying new parts or tinkering with the rifle at all but im just looking to buy a rifle that has had all the goodies put into from when I buy it new then after that ill just slowly add stuff.

[M_P]

[Guest PT247]

GHK G5 is an amazing gun out the box. FACT.

[valleylad]

hey mate only trying to find out whats a good buy and some views of you guys.dont have to be a twat.ask me something on shotguns or firearms and id happily help you.dick.

[cavninja]

I got in to airsoft earlier this year and opted to go straight in to GBBs, I just didn't like the toy feel and effect of AEGs. I've shopped in airsoft zone in Romford a few times and the're good guys and very helpful. There are some good retailers out there with some great prices, (such as Patrol Base) or with great GBB experience (milspecsolutions). If you can find a store where you can actually try the guns out and do your internet research, you'll get yourself a good 'un.

I got myself a WE HK416, another very similar AR type platform, I've modded the hell out it, new inner barrel, fitted an NPAS, because it just ran way too hot! and a paint scheme and lots of ad ons with sights, lasers etc.

Bear in mind the mags,my WE M4 mags are about £35-40 a pop over here and only hold 30 rounds, I've managed to get six and I carry speed loaders!! The cost of ancilliaries and running costs, gas and BBs etc, may also be a factor, as well as having a local store who can help out if things go wrong.

I dealy love my GBBR, its awesome to shoot and so very realisitic, but the weather and temperature can have an effect on your gas mags and so on performance, its just one of those things to bear in mind.

PT247 is quite right, I've the the G5 used on skirmishes and it is a very impressive perfomer and the vid comparison above is excellent!

Oh and this is my baby...

 

[M_P]

hey mate only trying to find out whats a good buy and some views of you guys.dont have to be a tw*t.ask me something on shotguns or firearms and id happily help you.dick.

I think you'll find that was posted in jest and wasn't aimed at you. Calm yourself.