[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

Anyone know what the rear stock compatibility is like? Can you use existing ones?

 

I didn't get round to pre-ordering any spare mags. So I'm going to have to get really really fast with a speedloader...

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

That looks like a useful resource, but I am not filled with enthusiasm about ever having to work on one. If you're using Chrome, Google does a good job on the auto-translation which helps a lot more with making sense of it.

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

It's inconceivable that TM won't do an SD version at some point. Whether or not you'll be able to get a kit before then depends on how modular the front end is I suppose.

 

As yet I haven't seen any videos indicating if existing (or real steel) stocks will fit, which would also be handy to know. 

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

I have no idea what MachSakai is saying, but he has the expression of someone who is thoroughly loving magdumping that MP5. Which bodes well.

 

You're right about the other guy though.

 

Having watched some more videos, including this one, it looks like the handguard attachment method is different, which is a shame.

 

 

I guess they've done it to make sure there's enough battery space. Maybe you could get creative with the cutting, but it's a shame that it's proprietary. If you've got a flashlight or railed handguard already it won't fit, regardless of if it's an old MP5 version or a real steel.

 

Expect more accessories further down the line...

[ASG Steyr Scout]

2 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

Interesting, I've not yet found that the colour of my gun affected my running and jumping speed, but they couldn't say it if it weren't true.

 

No, that's when you use a knife. Everyone knows you run faster with a knife...

[What Have You Learned About Airsoft Recently?]

No, it's a weird one. Generally I only run Geoff's, but I have occasionally picked up a bottle of some generic Blasters or similar if I've run out on the day. Honestly no idea how long that's been in there. Although now I look at it I'm wondering if the bb at the bottom of the loader is a bit oversized too...

 

I guess the answer to this is to shoot more ammo so it's not sitting around as long? Airsoft solutions to Airsoft problems.

[What Have You Learned About Airsoft Recently?]

Yes, I have no idea how, or how long it's been in there. Reasons not to use Bios I guess...

[What Have You Learned About Airsoft Recently?]

I learnt why my speed loader stopped working...

[LCT LK-53(HK53) out on 5th August]

I'm assuming it'll be possible to get alternate stocks/foregrips as well. Possibly even real steel versions, which opens up a lot of possibilities.

[LCT LK-53(HK53) out on 5th August]

Well, these look interesting. They've been on the cards a while, but looks like they're finally coming out. Both the A2 (solid stock) and A3 (sliding stock) will be out and I think they're doing a standard and an EBB version.

 

I've always had a soft spot for the HK53, so hopefully these will be as well built as their G3/HK33, but without quite as much weight up front. No idea on prices, but my guess would be £400 to £500 depending on version.

 

No word on the MP5 yet, sadly, but they might have missed the bidding on that anyway now that Marui's recoil version is due out.

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

Auto-translate now available on this, so I watched it again although it was a lot harder to follow this time. As best I can tell -

 

• Handguard mounts the same way as the real one.
• Will work with standard nimh batteries (looks like 8.4v mini).
• Marui are releasing their own Lipo, which will work with this but won't be available for another 6 months or so.
• There's some sort of proprietary connector in place that the lipo will plug into (but the MP5 comes with a converter as standard so you can use NIMH now and then the lipo later).
• Looks like the idea of the proprietary connector is safety so presumably it'll be directly monitoring cell voltage or something through the connector.
• The price we already knew - 59,800, which is exactly the same as the SCAR L (which seem to be around £430 - £460 over here depending on model/colour)

 

 

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

Interesting.

 

Price seems to be 59,800 - £388, but then I guess there's all the usual fees, etc.

 

Basing that on this video at 36 min. No auto translate yet so I didn't get a lot else, but there was a lot of talk about the battery.

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

Just rewatching the Youtube video and there are translations available now, which is worth a look if you're interested in that sort of thing.

Here's my interpretation of YouTube's autotranslate.

 

• Original TM MP5 released in 1992
• NGRS weighs 3.1kg, close to real weight (standard 1.9kg)
• Not sure on the frame, maybe die cast with some aluminium (trying to avoid front heavy)
• Furniture is all FRP
• Talks more technically about the paintwork,
• Magazine construction - how the hicaps are welded differently to lowcaps and will be cheaper. Mags are proprietary
• Fact that this is based on a 90's build MP5 rather than current
• Doesn't have 14mm threads, but a 3 lug adapter with a 14mm ccw thread is included so you can then mount whatever to it.
• New fire select system - magnetic with mosfet & FCU fitted. Voltage regulation and jam detection. Active braking based on sector gear detection. Auto-sleep to avoid battery drain.
• 300g recoil weight.
• Marui man loves the HK slap.
• 2 position stock, with very little wobble.
• Hop unit is behind ejection port (which reciprocates during firing)
• Method of attaching handguard is the same as the real MP5! (so no wobble and maybe opens options to use real parts)
• Release in summer, price still undecided.

 

 

 

 

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

So, anyone getting more details from this?

 

From observation/listening all I got was

 

• Custom recoil gearbox with "M system" trigger (mosfet & fire control) - Safe, semi, 3rd burst, full auto fire group
• Not sure on magazine compatibility but there is a new mag - there was a fair amount of talk on this section so maybe it's backwards compatible but doesn't support all the features or maybe adapter needed.
• Upper receiver? Aluminium?
• Need to use the cocking handle/HK slap to reload on empty mags
• Hop unit probably under ejection port (couldn't see if it was rotary or not)
• Front handguard not all creaky (not sure if compatible with RS parts)
• Ejection port reciprocates during firing.

 

Almost certainly to be followed later with other variants...

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

Well now, I don't know that I'm saying that. I mean, a dirty little MP5k GBB? Tempting...

 

I'm just thinking that, for me, if I had to pick just one then it's probably going to be the NGRS because... gas mags, full auto, winter, etc.

 

If I had a local that was all kill house then expect a very different set of priorities...

[Tm Mp5 NGRS on Horizon?]

It's the 16th April isn't it, not the 1st? Just checking...

 

I can't see it on TM's site, annoyingly. However, I'm kind of undecided which I'd prefer. Probably a recoil, but I'm kind of expecting a GBB.  The original AEG MP5 is so old now.

 

I'm also reading far too much into a grainy picture, but that polymer grip looks way nicer than the old shiny ABS.

[Quick Questions & Simple Answers.]

These drops ins are meant to be quite good, but US based and you have the usual shipping, etc. - Malkoff Devices .

[Wolverine MTW - Any one in the UK own one?]

26 minutes ago, leadly said:

Mine arrives on Tuesday....  

 

Nice, look forward to seeing a review. I've been keeping an eye on them for a while, but can't justify dropping that kind of cash in the current circumstances (plus lack of a regular site). I'd been holding off earlier in part due to the receiver. New one looks better, but my suspicion is that dust cover won't close as is - none of the photos/videos I've seen show that. Looks a good tool for some sneaky work.