RossF

Here you are: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10RLbvPbq-HXDayhcAIPHgoSTcFIcd3Q5PKZc288_tL0/edit?ts=5e94858f

A great little gun, so much fun to fire as well what with the fire rate and the small foot print emphasising the recoil. Maintenance It is a bit of a pain to strip right down as you have to remove the fire selector and the bolt release which feel at both an inevitable de-threading - I just clean the barrel after every game, pop the stock off and take out the BCG and give it a rub down and lube up. I don’t think you need to strip it right down to get anywhere else unless you have an issue with the hop or something. Upgrades Performs great stock, but I did drop in a crazyjet barrel and autobot bucking, gives me a reliable hit over 60m I’d say with .3s. I heard the nozzle is destined to fail but I haven’t had any issues. I run Abbey Predator Ultra (red can) in the summer (gives me around 340fps) Hope that helps

Looks great!

Yeah of course but it’d be nice to have the flexibility to keep it at 450fps, hence the purchase! Even more irritating, I’ve had it in and out so much with all the problems the thread seems to have worn (or maybe I over tightened) so now I can’t remove the guide from the top of the BCG 🤬

Has anybody else found the angry gun MPA nozzle troublesome? Every time I take it to a game my gun goes down... first it was the grub screw, then it was the sealing buffer (have swapped to stock now) and today the nozzle seemed to be getting stuck in the bucking. It meant full auto just caused the mags to gas out and semi was sometimes fine, other times it wouldn’t fire (although it would bang). Winding me up. My MWS was flawless before this and ironically my WE MP5 and G36 are yet to fail on me so my MWS has gone from my baby to this troublesome irritant.

I was running my MWS until my issues then swapped to my MP7 and HK45 which performed as beautifully as ever. I’m yet to see evidence of this “gas guns don’t work in winter” filth peoole bang on about! Even had the MP7 on full auto!

It was around 7 degrees today and I was running Vertex. With the Angry Gun MPA as open as I could whilst still feeling decent resistance on the grub screw I was getting around 285fps with .43s (that converts to around 400fps on .2) Annoyingly, I had a few issues today that are worth putting in here to help people. 1. This has been spoken about on here but the Angry gun MPA nozzle wasn’t returning quickly upon firing. This seems to cause double feeds, jams etc. And eventually all my mags to gas out on the first shot. Upon investigation, this was because of the sealing cup is it called? I haven’t swapped it out with the stock Marui one, but instead put a bit of silicone oil around it, as well as on my thumb and put that around the chamber it slides into. The result was it going from slowly returning (bad) to pinging back almost instantly (good). Not convinced you need to replace with the TM one, will see if it keeps working with the lube. 2. The Modify Tan bucking has broken. I’m actually kind of surprised by this as I’ve only taken it out to maybe half a dozen games, and given that I play single shot marksman role and often swap to another gun half way through, it can’t have had that many rounds through it. Will put another in and see how it goes (wish it wasn’t so hard to get the front off!).

Hilarious. You’re not the only one. I tried silent fill, and I tried the laylax fill valves etc then I just decided to use Abbey Vertex gas instead. It’s just not worth the hassle, these mags just don’t seem to like propane for some people.

Oh yeah my mistake. I can’t quite remember as it was a while back I was looking but neither were viable. I think maybe the haphestus one had horrible seam lines on the body and was ridiculously hot out of the box or something.

Correct, but unfortunately there’s whole load of reasons why it’s not really viable as a purchase. @Asmodias had one.

Ditto. I got the whole thing swapped by the store I got it from. Was also considering a longer screw to prevent it happening again. Can’t see how it could cause problems but will leave someone else more informed to comment.

Looks great even before you consider the price whichIs just incredible! So badly want GHK to do one of these...

Just incase he/she isn't sure what a BCG is (that would have confused me 6 months ago before I started getting into my guns!) it's the cylindrical metal chunk that goes back and forth - connected to the charging handle.

all depends on how you’ve set your mpa nozzle. For reference indoors on Abbey Vertex with the same inner you run I get 340-345fps with .43s and the mpa fully open. That converts to around 423fps on .28s. But the MPA nozzle has a huge window of variance. I’d say if you have a target power, say 350 or 450 DMR just open up the MPA until you get there and just enjoy it until you know you have a problem. Everything’s probably fine.

Damn I misread this as a 416 zet is coming.

8fields d3cr or is there another clone out there?

this is what you guys are looking for. Summary of the entire thread.

Use the plunger. Takes seconds!

Update: took my MWS to a skirmish today running the Angry Gun nozzle. Outcome: my MWS went down for the first time since I’ve owned it... In short; the little grub screw that twists to adjust the gap worked itself loose and fell out. I assume this is what caused the nozzle to then jam forward (though I’m not sure why that’s the case). Gun would fire, no BB would come out and it sounded more like an instant hiss than a snap. Had to split the body open to get the nozzle to pull back. Will get it home later and inspect further, but definitely something to watch our for. I only had it I’d say 80% open and made sure I could feel good resistance on the grub screw when tightening as I was already mindful that this would be a possible weak point in the design.

What bipod is that? I’ve been trying to find an m-lok bipod for mine but don’t like any of the three options that I seem to have found.

I’m still using the TM plunger. I actually find it’s super fast and easy so why bother with a speed loader?

Hmm ok I’ll probably go ahead and get the high speed in that case.

Just FYI I got the Angry Gun MPA nozzle. Awesome piece of kit. 390fps +- 5 w/ .28s 340fps +- 3 w/ .43s My setup is 373mm prommy .03 barrel w/ modify tan bucking, Dave’s brass nub and spacer. G&P recoil spring and alu buffer @ max weight. Running on Abbey Vertex gas. Also I tried the Angry Hun high speed buffer weight and holy crap, it added so much recoil. Amazing! The only thing that stopped me buying it there and then was I want to try the heavy recoil kit now given that I’m running this as a DMR so ROF is irrelevant. @Wo1f I know you’ve tried both the high speed and heavy buffer weights from Angry Gun and said the heavy made the cycle way too slow to recommend. To clarify is that the ROF or do you mean even a complete cycle per one single shot feels sluggish and gross?

Mine didn’t come with a bow!? I got ripped the fuck off. 🤬😤😤😡

I had this question too. I’ve stuck to a “for MWS” g&p stock but would like to know my options preferably without shimming with tape.