slayerkitty

I don't even have an mws, but scrolling through the forum on my phone it previews part of the last reply, the text above was what I saw😳, needless to say I had to click on it to get some context, otherwise I'd have probably had bad dreams tonight lol

Phaha well I popped to my dad's to see if he could sort my ring out, we used a log tube that failed, so then we tried hot air and a wood mallet, soon got it shifted, then deeper in its another ring so hot air and a home made prong tool sorted it in the end,no need for Dr's

If I were to get an L85 it would be the Army Armament one. It's a direct clone of the old G&G.

It's got the most basic gearbox of the 4 and it's the cheapest. It also comes with the older style 19 tooth sector and piston.

For £180 ish you get the basic gun, £20 more get you a RIS variant...

Send it to a decent tech, and have it shimmed sorted and a warfet installed and it'll be spot on.

https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/army-armament-r85a2-l85-sa80-aeg-with-rails-in-black.html


 
Ares/Star suffer with a bad reputation. The gearboxes are know to be overly complicated and prone to problems. They also directly compete with ICS who have a better reputation with L85's.

I would avoid the ICS based purely on price.

The G&G is reasonable but when you have a direct clone without the bells and whistles the extra price is hard to justify. Especially if you can do the upgrades yourself.

The biggest gripes about the army variant are cheaper plastics, and the gearboxes are a bit rough and prone to piston stripping. It's also a basic gun without the extras.... All can be solved for less than the markup of the others.

Just a couple remaining: 
https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/pistons-heads/ra-piston-head-pom

Oh a fellow KA PDW user  (old pic, the trigger is now a MAXX gold one and I reverted to the OEM stock)

 
Unfortunately in an AEG you can't do much to shut up the gun, one thing that works surprisingly well is a DSG setup, the sound report is so short that locating it is really hard (in semi, in full auto it's like an A-fucking-10).
Wouldn't go with alu piston head and cylinder head, especially on the stock gearbox shell. Plastic components will actually reduce the shock AND the piston slap, plus the stock compression parts (piston head, cylinder head, cylinder, nozzle) are really good and on mine they gave 101% airseal (I have swapped the cylinder for an unported one though to balance the volume ratio with a longer barrel and to actually make the gun louder).
A plastic piston rack could help in muffling the sound, but at the RPS provided by a 13:1 + SHS HT setup it'll get chewed to shit in no time, so a SHS 14T piston is mandatory (I've replaced mine as soon as I got the gun)..
 
As @Icenisaid, to make a quiet AEG build you need the right AEG to begin with
 
In the meantime, get a G&G MP5 drum mag to increase the gun's meme potential

one thing that is worth mentioning is that play-style can really effect how silent a gun needs to be.
 
i found it kind of odd when i started using the dragonuv but despite the hilarious racket that thing makes when firing (part of the reason i got it in the first place) some folk straight up wouldn't notice me shooting.
 
i suspect the main reason is that in the name of consistency with gas i'd space my shots much more than i would if i was using an assault gun (even an hpa) so after the initial racket there's no follow up noise/bb whizzing to give folk an idea where it came from.
 

The POM silent heads are quieter then the Alu ones. The Alu ones have significant slap the pom ones it's more of a thud. All that is for nothing if you can't deaden the gearbox and insulate it.

I have a silent AUG build. To the shooter it's still loud, but to anyone a few meters away you can still hear it, but it's muffled, without a pop and very difficult to locate. There are almost as many modifications to the body as there are to the gearbox to achieve that. Outside of 10-15 meters it's as good a silent.

The gearbox is lower on power (315fps), POM silent head, A solid brass spring guide, Greased mainspring with very heavy grease. Well shimmed. Heavy gearbox shells, Bushings, heavy gearbox grease. Brass thick walled cylinder (I think it came out of an old Cyma).

The body is stuffed with closed cell foam, it has a big silencer with the foam modified to create pockets internally. The silencer makes up a vast amount of the sound removal taking any piston slap pretty much out of the shot. It also has a 340mm inner barrel (should be 509mm) Creating even more volume and break for the suppressor as the sounds can be pushed back into the outer barrel.

My second aug has the SHS silent head set (it's actually a bore up set), No internal foam, No suppressor, QC spring guide.... It's nosier than a stock AUG.


So you can make a gun quiet but you need the correct base gun to do it. Something with volume round the gearbox that can be filled, and you want as much mass as possible in the gearbox itself. Think of a tuning fork more mass is a lower pitch, Lower pitches travel further, but are harder to pinpoint than quiet sharp sounds.

 

You're never going to make it that quiet, some people use sorbo pads but they in turn cause other issues.