Tommikka

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Do tell us which section of the VCRA states that it applies to ‘shops’ only https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36 A defence does cover the shops back - it covers the shop against prosecution. You are correct that possession is not an offence under the VCRA. But a private sale is not possession but the transfer of the possessed item in exchange of monetary consideration, AKA sale

Back in the olden days, when PMR446 had 38 CTSS codes, before DCS was added making 121 codes, that people thought were sub-frequencies ….. There were also toy & other cheap PMRs without the CTSS function. I had a few Tesco stripey label PMRs which I would use to supplement our main PMRs. The lack of CTSS did not mean that channel 1.01 to 1.38 were unavailable, but that the cheap PMR didn’t know that it should not pick them up on 1.0 I could then allocate CTSS numbers to people, such as compressed air station (who had a habit of going to Vox and blocking the airwaves when running the compressor), another CTSS to safety Marshalls, another to game control Marshalls, another to the safe zone and one each to faction leaders. That way each CTSS group could have their own conversations whilst I could track them all or anyone could contact me. Then I’ll pull out my proper PMR and switch to the appropriate CTSS (The cheap PMR would only transmit on .0 rather than to the CTSS codes, but could hear everything from .0 to .38 as long as you were on the right core channel

The best mystery boxes are the ones I sell at comicons, which come from former loot type subscription boxes. Of those the smaller boxes are the better ones (better things - but that depends on whether or not you like the things) We were selling them as per their contents, but people prefer the ‘mystery’ and were buying total tat from mystery bags so we closed the boxes As @BigStew has noted, anyone selling mystery boxes/bags are shifting surplus/slow moving stock - and/or are getting in extra tat to tot them up

Slight diversion …… Popping large generation smart phones into the cup holder of camping chairs can engage multiple buttons and generate an emergency contact distress alert. Not too much of an issue if your emergency contact is in the camping chair next to you

You are correct that it is the seller who is legally liable under the VCRA with regard to a defence for a RIF sale But this does not mean that you must explicitly verify against the UKARA or other scheme, there have been verification services, but probably due to a combination of cost, resources and ensuring confidentiality there isn’t a UKARA public/self validation service (A secure process that doesn’t over expose content would be GDPR compliant as the purpose is validation - but there could still be a consent issue on public validation rather than controlled access etc - and retailer members of the UKARA may also prefer that there isn’t a public option) You just need to apply some common sense due diligence, which is also likely to minimise you getting to the point of needing to back up your decision to sell Does the buyer act old enough to buy an airsoft gun (RIF or IF) and for RIFs do they appear to be buying for a valid use? Be extra cautious in the school holidays, if on this forum do they have a posting history (don’t sell a RIF to me because I don’t play airsoft and have said so many times - therefore my forum membership content is evidence of my lack of valid purpose) You can ask, and their member site may also be happy with validating them PS if they tell you they have JustCos membership then refuse the sale

The rules and details are far too much to me. A hardcore fan of the game could be interested in that level, but you’ve then got a very niche within a niche for the customer base If you manage to build a regular crowd then things could build. I’d recommend either themed gaming which lightened down the elements into mission stages , or ‘actor’ led experiences with a very much toned down rule set. The app sends me major alarm bells with just the first mention of needing your own device then the battery issue on top. But then add on that it must be Android (I do understand about other issues of just getting an iOS app up let alone cross platform issues), but having to have the right specifications, possibly certain models etc means quite an expense, and then needing to uninstall / reinstall for a return visit You should be providing these - or even better having less reliance on them per person with an actor led experience and those being the ones carrying the app

I have not worn a watch this century, and probably not since the late 80s I would wear watches on the inside of my left wrist, but not for the reason @Basersaid - which does make sense. When I was motorcycling the inside left was convenient to look at my watch by moving my wrist and the display would appear from under my glove. (My real reason though was because as a kid I saw someone in a film wear theirs like that so decided it was cool) Since changing to car from bike there would be a clock in the car and whenever I needed to know the time there was a clock around somewhere - (no need to have a thing attached to my wrist - until trying a magnetic band with old age) Nowadays my watch/clock is my phone (I have also used my phone in game) On occasion I’ve had mini watch sized clock faces stuck on a piece of equipment for a timer etc A good old basic watch or a chunky like G Shocks would survive the general vigour of a game

The sight of tourniquets in a players gear always worries me, and if you’re carrying tourniquet & scissors do you also have the rest stashed in your pouches? …. And know how/when/if to use it ? There is the dressing up element of airsoft, but it does imply a readiness which shouldn’t be the need of the average player, and therefore if you’re that prepared you’re carrying a lot of extra stuff If it really came down to it in game that a tourniquet was required from a passing player, a makeshift tourniquet can be made from the more average items carried by players (((Practice is of course required - but not on real bodies))) “Life not limb” was my instructors favourite phrase, and for the timeframes we have in the UK for an emergency evacuation beats the length required for limb loss risk of a tourniquet. For starters on that kit (unless it is a dress up set) I would lose the tourniquet (unless you can bring up real examples of potential needs in game - in which case I’d worry about the site), the scissors aren’t taking up much but be extra wary of the stitch counting airsofter who sues you for chopping up their ultra rare original SAS ninja trousers when they’ve strained their ankle falling over a tree root, and the rope is overkill complete with bush snag detection Personally, I’ve done it all - from all the gear no idea, to t shirt, jeans and a pocket

No it isn’t, it’s a demonstration of security doing their job, the police officer called over was very aware of airsoft - a very good awareness piece from @Asomodai for people to think about what / how they carry things when travelling (use hold luggage checkin for things that should not be in carry on luggage), and to allow time. The first example was a magazine, the second was internal parts The internal parts were ‘weapon like in nature’ - the person operating the scanner clearly was educated to identify them

Transiting is a thing - but going to a destination to leave later is not transiting Visiting the UK to play at an insured site is a VCRA defence - but comes with the issue of convincing the airport staff, airline staff, customs etc Travelling by air / ferry / tunnel also comes with how you package, where it is loaded (baggage area) and very importantly the airline and airport policies (Travelling with real firearms would be easier due to explicit legislation / licencing / certification etc)

Bottom line - you called yourself out Adding a knife kill because you were grumpy makes you the dickhead of your own story Once you have called yourself out then you are out until you - exit the game & re-enter, respawn, get healed or an authorised person such as a Marshall declares you a live player Grenade elimination rules can vary widely, indoors the trend is that within a confined space (AKA not a giant room) all are eliminated unless they get out or get behind hard cover (in some rules soft cover could be defined as hard cover - such as herris fencing with a tarp over it if that is defined a wall etc) So without further information it is fair that you failed to get a grenade kill (they went to cover) and that a grenade kill succeeded against you (confined space) He may have been laughing that he was making a distraction throw but you called yourself out on a non-detonation (of your own grenade) Many things can be used as a distraction, eg if he threw a thing to distract you then run in and shoot you It’s still down to you that you misinterpreted the noise and called yourself out (The solution to misinterpreted noise of a heavy impact grenade on a hard surface is to not use them, but to use general disposable pyro with flag & bang) The other matter is that it is the general standard to leave other players gear alone - reusable grenades, discarded magazines, guns etc - I often put down my gun if I want to make a directed throw around a corner etc There is a level of common sense, in that if the object is in the way, could be a lost object etc - in which case you put it aside to a safer spot, to a marshal etc, bring it back to the safe zone etc I normally carry my empties but may stack them up, and one magazine alone may look lost, or I may have actually dropped it He was in the wrong to throw back your grenade, but an educational experience was ruined by the dead man’s knife kill

Ignore the PTT for now Use the handset alone with no ancillaries fitted and test transmit / receive Check that the frequency is correctly programmed into the handset and that you are able to both transmit and receive before doing anything else

What sort of styles are you interested in from their range? https://wellsmadecompany.com/collections/slings Some of them are just colourful / patterned 25mm webbing straps. You can get colourful or patterned webbing straps from a variety of places. You may have a local haberdashery / fabric shop that stocks at least a few different colours than black and would be willing to order in others. These are great places to go and buy material / straps by the roll or by the metre. Take a selection of slide / clip fittings and you can make a whole range of different slings types for a fraction of the cost of the ‘custom’ ones. If you want something a bit more complex such as adding padded sleeves to the straps just ask at the counter and they will either offer a custom service or have local seamstresses that take custom work to make a sleeve from your choice of custom material from the shop Ask with enough volume to be heard around the shop and some of the customers could offer their skills (For the first event we ran the objective colour flags on pulleys came from the local fabric shop, I asked for something cheap and brightly coloured that could be cut up and tied to ropes. I was handed a few lengths of fabric pre cut to my rough sizing These were reused for many events - they will still be in my boxes of event kit) Something else to consider for padded / wide straps are guitar straps, you can use them as made or cut off the guitar ends to fit webbing strap fittings instead Take a look around your high street, or browse Amazon, Google, Ali express, Temu etc - you will be spoilt for choice https://amzn.eu/d/4V9G7PR https://amzn.eu/d/04uWeIA https://share.temu.com/RKz4Th6WuLA https://amzn.eu/d/ey0qcvC https://amzn.eu/d/0SGHJmu (Don’t feel obliged to go for 25mm, there is a wide variety - just remember to get complimenting sizes of straps & fittings - or don’t automatically use buckle clips etc, a loop of para cord does the job as well and can be the ideal fixing for some guns)

@Roryhas granted me the shoe in to think ‘outside the box’ The key thing is of course to have a safe environment, not break the law (proximity to footpaths and roads) and not annoy neighbours If you want a fairly simple target then setup some simple targets to hit, add something ‘reactive’ such as metal that will pint (as per Rory’s can lid) or a soft thing such as paper that will show your hits A novel option (which can work for airguns but may not work properly for airsoft) is to put paintballs on golf tees For an airgun a good centre hit will burst the paintball, a glancing blow or whizz past might knock or blow it off For airsoft I suspect a BB at any decent range may just knock down a paintball unless you had a good fresh tournament grade paintball But that does give a small target to try out your accuracy & your RIFs consistency If you’re a student or road worker then put some cones out However - be aware that hits will bounce away in various directions, so limited in where it would be suitable for garden targets Cones are great for an easily relocatable but solid target of varying size (not just that cones come in all sizes but you can aim for an easy shot at the lower wider bottom of the cone and work up to the slimmer top of the cone. You can also pop a can on top or a stick through the cone holding up another target If you have a few cones then space them around at various distances and practice switching target Remember again that if you’re switching target then your hard backstop needs to cover the wider range of potential misses

I (think) that I referenced this somewhere on the forum last year. The flowchart is broadly right, but fails to take into account test exempt small capacity aluminium cylinders, and simplifies some points It’s not exactly a legislation change, but Brexit, and the move out of European standards. For a number of standards separate exemptions were made to remain as per the ‘legacy’ EU standards. Such an exemption was not made for transportable pressurised cylinders, and therefore EU TPED regulations are no longer valid in the UK. (the Pi mark is from TPED) We now therefor have the Rho mark for the UK Below in italics are some of my notes from the UKPSF AGM of July 2024 (with the odd tweak) The flowchart shows a ‘Northern Ireland exemption’. This relates to the complexities of Ireland being UK in the north and part of EU in the south with no border. The extract image below from the Department of Transports document “Placing transportable pressure equipment on the market in Great Britain from 1 January 2023” highlights that Ireland is one market and therefore Pi remains valid in NI - though the flowchart demands documented proof - what could that be? An invoice - which could legitimately be from a French retailer selling to an NI address?? A players ID with an NI address?? A cylinder on the NI market?? The flowchart does not take into account multi national UNISO 11119 cylinders, which are internationally recognised, therefore may not be Pi or Rho marked The flowchart tries to take into account hydro test cycles (by referencing a 5 year date. It is not explicit as to which date is within 5 years - born date or test date. (A non GB Pi cylinder born after 1/1/23 doesn’t become a GB cylinder if it gets hydro tested, but a Pi cylinder born before 1/1/23 can continue to be used in mainland GB with valid hydro tests) Aluminium 3000psi cylinders also actually have a legal 10 year lifetime before hydro testing is required. However many manufacturers mark a 5 year expiry (therefore an inspection should reject a 6 year old if the markings say so, but could accept for up to 10 years if the markings do not or painted markings have worn away) An aluminium cylinder could be used forever if hydro tested, but at the cost of a test vs a new cylinder it’s hardly worth it Low capacity aluminum 3000psi cylinders may also be exempt from hydro testing, this is generally called the 2 x 2 rule due to the US definition of “shorter than 2’ and slimmer than 2” diameter This would cover common airsoft small cylinders such as 13ci cylinders So such a Pi cylinder born before 1/1/23 could be used forever in GB ((((The reason that it is all referring to January 2023 but Brexit happened before is due to the transition period)))) The Rho standard applies to all transportable pressurised cylinders, not just game play ones (oxygen cylinders etc). Which means that this has an impact on numerous industries, but with not many factories and Britain being a small market for them. Few manufacturers were/are interested in registering for Rho approval standards, and even less interested in the sports market share of cylinders (Notes extract July 2024) …… post Brexit cylinders: Pi is from European TPED and Brexit brings us to Rho certification There are no Rho cylinders on the market ((((as at July 2024)))) If the born date is before 1/1/2023 then a Pi cylinder remains valid and can be hydro tested until death date One or two manufacturers have been confirmed to be able to mark cylinders as Rho, but nothing in the UK yet (((as at July 2024))) It’s likely that some fibres will be flown in but aluminium’s will only be sea freight (Bearing in mind that <name witheld> used his DOT bottle everywhere except for me, x and y checking - so it’s a matter of who knows and who checks). <<player name and sites redacted>>. Existing Pi cylinders are fine (pre 1/1/2023 If buying check the born date Not sure how that affects multinational ISO Technically speaking Rho counts at point of sale on the market, so buy in Southern Ireland and new Pi could be fine print legal for UK https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/1370/regulation/5/made#:~:text=Insertion of regulation 19AZA&text=—(1) A manufacturer%2C,TPE or Northern Ireland TPE.&text=(b)is pi marked TPE,prior to 1st January 2023. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-transportable-pressure-equipment-on-the-market-in-great-britain

@Rogerborg Found it However, I could be a little bit pedantic as it looks like it hadn’t gone to court at the time, so an airgun might be a RIF as that was the arrest and he had apparantly both pleaded guilty and then denied He did end up with a conviction, but I have not fully searched back to see what the actual charges were in court So an F could be a RIF, and there has been a case about it, so I must still concede your point of view - unless we get up the court results to find it rejecting the view (If the actual charges & case in court did not test F can be RIF then I still concede the line has moved a little due to the original arrest) On the Home Office view as paintball and frangible, the old version is referenced in the UKPSF post below (But in recent years it has wobbled due to grey import ‘home defence’ paintball pistols, with the updates on status in each of the AGMs for the past few years) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=532643633518379&id=100039104568012

That’s a really good question - it’s somewhere amongst the various “is it a RIF” threads in here I had a thread on a paintball forum which had the majority of the complex assortment of relevant legislation & case law points, and had tagged it there - but that has since died and taken my ‘convenient & tidy-ish” reference list away before I managed to rescue the content I shall endeavour to relocate it

@Chev Chelios @Rogerborg Paintball guns are CURRENTLY considered by the Home Office as non RIF but very hazily grey, and provided that they are used with only standard type paintballs (whether that is standard .68” or .43” / .50” which are fairly common for magfed pistols) and First Strike shaped projectiles (as they were subjected to approved testing on lethality/frangibilty) Similar shaped projectiles are not acceptable, and solid projectiles are not acceptable for the paintball classification and would be treated as air weapons For the Home Office to be happy about that the usage is recommended to be for use on insured paintball sites, and a recommendation has been made that retailers require UKPSF player membership for a VCRA like ‘paintball skirmisher’ like defence ——- with no standing under the VCRA legislation to back that up, and you can buy membership on purchase - there is no game playing count etc UKPSF trade/retail members adopted that policy, but non UKPSF sellers won’t be doing so …………. This has wavered quite a bit in recent years and the UKPSF are regularly dealing with the Home Office and legal advisors with updates at the annual trade & player AGMs The specifics have been updated in each of the last few AGMs The police, customs etc have acted upon the high power home defence, and solid projectiles etc in a number of cases in recent years (Including cases that have been flagged on here a few times) …………. GelSoft had legal problems in Australia etc and found to be illegal - No get out clause of ‘it’s just a toy’ ………… It will be a matter of nothing having come to people’s attention so far with UK GelSoft RIFs - which means someone can easily find themselves in a world of hurt ……. Historically there was the argument that a firearm is not a RIF, therefore a low power air weapon that shoots frangibles (AKA paintball) was a firearm and therefore not an imitation / replica The same was considered for air guns which look exactly like firearms Me and Rogerborg agreed to disagree Case law has since established otherwise with an airgun lookalike found in court to be both an airweapon (firearm) and a RIF

Control of safety is the main issue I’d recommend against it Next depends on how private your private land is Keep your distance from boundaries etc, and ensure you are not overlooked Ensure your ‘private’ land is not business related - often farmers children want to play on their ‘private’ land, but then it turns out to be publicly accessed land for the business of farming, such as milk lorry drivers You can legally own a 2 tone IF (unless you are much younger than 18) You (and your friends) must be responsible with that IF

For UK legislation there is no difference between retail & second hand RIF sales If it was a sale within the UK then even a private seller is the one liable for a compliant VCRA RIF sale - the buyer should demonstrate a VCRA defence to justify the RIF sale, but it is the seller who is legally liable But Jersey is not part of the UK, therefore it would be an import and the importer (buyer) is responsible for justifying a RIF import This could be difficult and complicated

As a thread diversion - he was talked to by a couple of members of staff, and allowed to continue Noting that he took ‘care’ to clarify which areas were public vs private, and then decided to entirely disregard that when the path came to an end He also opted to film, highlight and publish the access controls which aids anti ‘audit’ claims of using auditing as an excuse to conduct hostile reconnaissance. Like many if not most auditors he says he is filming for general interest because he has seen their lorries around. Why not just be honest and open that it’s for YouTube monetisation ? …. and near the end a little bit of ignorance / bigging up that a container tamper seal means that it contains ‘high value’ goods. It just means that (provided you document the tag number) that the container hasn’t been opened since the last check

It’s a variant on ‘like’, equating to ‘nice one, cobber’ from our antipodean friends 🧀

Leave it as is - if he is asking you to retry paying because his funds are on hold then don’t. As noted by others let him know that it’s the PayPal process for new users etc He will need to send the item (tracked etc) Then when you have it, and don’t dispute anything PayPal will release the funds Let him know when you have it and are happy which complete with tracking could help him get funds released quicker If nothing progresses then pursue him & claim back for non delivery (Take screenshots of all messages, the transaction details etc)