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Is this a bit steep for a ump9? Swear they where only around £350 new. VFC UMP 9mm https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/item/69546-vfc-ump-9mm/

There is a Mk12 in the classifieds worth a look.

Thanks I'll check this about what they class as DMR! Definitely will need some kewl factor haha That's not too bad, I just found two I like, about £70 price difference but once is locked mechanically semi and the other MOSFET semi, so can be taken auto. I'll check locally what's allowed but perhaps the extra monery on the mechanical lock could be better, just in case https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/east-crane-ec-903-sr-25-dmr-aeg-advanced-edition?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/east-crane-ec-909-lr-obr-dmr-aeg-semi-automatic-only

Don't forget to factor in the 'kewl' bits for a DMR... scope, bi-pod, and kit you'll need like a decent battery & charger, mags, BB's and kit to wear and carry mags etc... A lot of rif's are great out of the box so save upgrades until they're needed. Not sure about many other sites but my local site classes all rifs as select fire unless it's a bolt action and max fps for non bolt actions is 360 so your 450 fps might be an issue.

On the one hand, to be expected, on the other hand most of the comments like "join the real army you walt" are either from anon accounts or will 99% come from fat kevins who failed selection as a raf cadet instructor, but spin endless dits down the local about how they 'were gonna join the paras' as they sip their piss lager.

I built my AEG DMR around a used LCT G3 as I wanted a gun that looked like it should be a DMR so 7.62 or .308 but that was my choice. Original plan was to all out motor, mosfet etc etc but it really hasn’t needed it yet. Had a Maple Leaf 6.02 barrel and 4uantum hop and nub for accuracy and a modified (shorted) m130 spring to make it shoot exactly 450 fps on .2’s. Had the selector plate modified so it won’t go full auto. I have stuck to .32’s as I like to lay down fire and anything heavier gets significantly more expensive. Gun was £280 used and the mods were around £100 with a local tech. Not sure how long it will last without the motor and MOSFET but it’s great fun to shoot and very accurate. You will need to budget for a good secondary to cover the 25/30m MED.

"Trader" in the manner of DelBoy Trotter.

I was thinking ideally like all in perhaps £500 really I suppose for the gun and any upgrades to it. Would additional things would need to go in to ensure range and consistency that can take the battering? I've seen an affordable gun that apparently is 380-420fps, I suppose with the cost I could probably put some decent updates on it https://uk-airsoft.co.uk/product/double-bell-sr25-dmr-aeg-semi-425fps-097-1/ Alternatively this CYMA, I just don't really understand the MOSFET/Programmable part Kestrel Basic ETU... How easy is it to lock to semi? If I have to get somebody to do it, is it easy? It states: https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-platinum-cm-097-m4-ar-15-aeg-kestrel-basic-etu?pv=27636 or this SR25 from CYMA but I suppose I'd prefer the other given more accessible mags https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-098-sr-25-dmr-aeg-kestrel-basic-etu?srsltid=AfmBOoqa_vgG9z8Q5TuTAepPr_DSt2a9wBAv94m0Zgh3jBw2eka-g-Lu I also loved this, but again not sure how much it would cost to lock to semi https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/krytac-trident-mk3-spr-m-aeg?pv=27270 I've actually just seen this, which looks really good - good cost and within budget with some upgrades perhaps and pre-locked so I don't need to mess around changing fire modes https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/east-crane-ec-903-sr-25-dmr-aeg-advanced-edition?utm_source=chatgpt.com

How much do you have in the bank? It could costs you around £100 or £1,000 depending upon how far you want to take it (just want to hit the DMR power limits with an AEG, build a great electric DMR, or maybe bite the bullet and just buy an MTW and go HPA). A simple spring swap will do this, however if you want accuracy at range and consistency (and an electric RIF that survives the punishment) you'll need to do more work. Unless you're playing milsim games your "DMR" does not have to look like a real steel / world one, use whatever platform you want that makes you happy (with the right setup an MK 23 pistol, or an AAP-01, could be classed as a "DMR").

I can only speak of the AR. As stated above, the 4uad hop unit is a worthy upgrade. I'm still testing the 4uad bucking myself, so far so good. In my community the go to is now the unicorn 70° bucking. A unicorn barrel is nice to have but not strictly needed and the new nozzle design from the MCX seems to be becoming the gold standard so start looking at how to mod them to fit. And lastly Waldo dynamics launched a new NPAS that's much better suited for us in the UK. If anything I'd say watch some explosive enterprise YT vids before doing any mods and stay well clear from some other YouTubers advice on these platforms, they'll side grade or worse downgrade your rifle.

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Just got home from what turned out to be a really great day at Worthing Airsoft. I had a rocky start when I gassed and magged up all my short MWS mags, went up to the range and... it was doing the same issue again where the bolt wasn't going all the way forward and venting the mag. I didn't bring my long mags (again), but this time it was a conscious decision since I had my Tanaka m24 with me, along with the 4 short magazines that I had upgraded last week. I was a little on edge, since it was experimental as I'd never run these upgraded magazines before, but the MWS magazines giving me problems was a blessing in disguise as the m24 performed absolutely flawlessly with the upgraded short mags. Once I got the power and hop dialled in, the three shots that I put through the chrono were 2.25J, 2.24J, 2.25J, which is unreasonably good for a gas bolt action, and I could feel that consistency through the day as I was hitting some lovely shots. First game was a warm up; king of the hill around one of the bases. Unfortunately, the base in question is a bit of a struggle with an MED, so I went to watch the flank and right as the game started, I spotted one of the enemy ghillies sprinting down the path trying to get in behind us before our team could get out onto the field proper. I pointed him out to my friend, who was using his Toxicant Sig Spear (the 6.8mm version) at 1.1J instead of as a DMR today. He started putting down fire on the sniper as I pushed up with my pistol. With some nice shots, my friend took that sniper out and I set up to watch him on his bleed out, just to make sure he didn't have any friends with him to medic him. Spent the game watching the flank, and it was a little uneventful but somebody had to do it! When we switched sides for the 2nd game, I saw the same ghillie crossing the path behind our spawn to once again get in behind our team. He pretty much crossed through our spawn and ducked into a bush just outside it, so I pointed that out to a marshall because that felt like it was really taking the piss. He was either shot or moved on, as he came out soon after. 3rd game took us all the way up to lunch. One of the marshalls was dressed as a chemist and both teams were looking for him. We had to grab him and escort him to one of the bases, but he was very uncooperative and was under instructions to make sure the game lasted until lunch by being a pain in the arse. He was roaming the bottom part of the site, which is basically impossible to negotiate an MED with so I stayed at the top. I wasn't expecting much, but a load of the enemy team kept on going to the checkpoint on the main path, but aiming to shoot people at a totally different angle to me and leaving themselves completely open to me, so me and my friend set up as sniper and spotter, staggered and on each side of the path in some cover and kept on picking people off down that path. I even had to refill some of my mags (they're only 10rds to be fair) because so many people kept walking into our crosshairs. The marshall definitely made it last until lunch, as he was only brought up to the top of the site right at the end. I got taken out for my first (and only) hit of the day with, you guessed it, a ghillie who went all the way around the edge of the site and then came in behind us. He did miss me point blank with his mk23, so I spun around to shoot him, but his follow up shots got me in the leg. I sprinted back to respawn, because it wasn't far, and then came out and took the ghillie out by aggressively pushing with my HK45. I've learned from experience that when a mk23 meets a GBB pistol in a gunfight, the GBB tends to come out on top and this was no different. This is why I carry a GBB instead of a mk23 as a sniper; that squishy trigger is absolutely awful. After lunch we played a game where each team had a small case that we had to get into one of the bases to collect a silver bar. Only the case-bearer was allowed in the base, nobody was allowed to shoot into or out of the base, and you weren't allowed to take cover on the base or in the immediate vicinity. I took one of my favoured spots watching the main path and it was a bloodbath. I lost track of just how many people I took out from that spot, even with some people not taking their hits. Fortunately, one of the guys who wasn't taking his hits I reported to the marshall, who went over to look and as he was heading over, I shot the guy in the arm; he looked like he was about to duck into cover, but saw the marshall coming down the path and then finally put his hand up. We then swapped sides and I wasn't confident as it's a lot harder to get good sight lines from the other side, but I found a disgusting little angle that is probably my best discovery since I found the spot that watches the path. I had to post shots through a small gap between a barricade and a tree, and there was some foliage partially in the way that did interfere with some of my shots, but I had a lovely little angle onto the obvious reinforcement path that most players were using to get back into the fight. There were so many ways to get around it, and my gap and sight line were so tiny, but I went undetected in my flannel shirt and managed to take so many reinforcing players out through this tiny gap. Last game of the day was a three base domination, but I couldn't play it that much. Me and my friend were trying to snipe a guy out of one of the bases, but then I heard a shot go past me. When the second shot went past me I looked back and saw one of the ghillies (again) shooting us in the back, though not too accurately. I pointed him out and moved back to watch around there, but it was really getting tiresome. Where he was originally was fine, but after I spotted him he moved further back, which put him pretty damn close to our spawn again, so I basically patrolled around the area just outside our spawn to keep watch for the ghillies. So all in all, it was a really good day after a rocky start with my MWS mags giving me issues, but that Tanaka m24 has cemented itself as my go-to bolt action sniper rifle now with how well it performed today. The marshalls were on top of any non-hit takers all day, so that wasn't really an issue as any time it was brought up they would go and check. The only issue was the sheer number of ghillies and how all of them were trying the same thing, sneaking around behind the enemy team to shoot them in the back with mk23s, or simply spawn-camping. I raised this at the end of the day with the marshalls, and one of the site owners said he's happy with people flanking, but not with going so close to the enemy team spawns. We'll see how that develops, but I'm confident the marshalls will keep an eye on it as they're pretty damn good. Outside of this I thoroughly enjoyed myself and all in all it was a really good day. Next game day I might actually wear some camo again, as I'm thinking of returning to my modern LBE setup after really enjoying my Vietnam setup, and a civvie loadout with an LBE just feels weird to me. LBEs feel a lot more long range reconnaissance than prepared civvie in civvie clothing, so the m81 camo might come back out for a proper LRRP loadout.

I'm new back to airsoft and after going skirmishing recently I think I'd really like to build out a DMR. Does anybody know the approximate costs to do this? Ideally I want to be able to push as close to 450fps as possible, are there any somewhat affordable options out there? I was thinking of the KRYTAC Trident MK3 SPR-M but cost wise this is a bit more than I wanted to go. Is a CYMA SR25 with upgrades going to perform better than krytac? I also liked the look of G&G TR80