scoutmatt Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 does anybody know the difference between a Magpul PTS Madada ACR and the AKM version?? ACR Version AKM Version Theres a £50 price difference and does this have good internals at stock?
craig Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 the AKM looks like it takes the ak74 mag in place of the m4 mag
scoutmatt Posted September 13, 2011 Author Posted September 13, 2011 the AKM looks like it takes the ak74 mag in place of the m4 mag Says on the specs they take most m4/m16 mags. I think the akm is a couple inches longer and has different internals but not 100% on that one so asking you guys
Supporters Liam Porter Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 The ACR takes M4/M16 type magazines, the AKM uses AK type magazines.
Supporters M_P Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 No the AKM takes AKM pts mags
Supporters Liam Porter Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Oh right, so they make you spend more on mags than you should have to?
Supporters M_P Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Well tbh, when most people get a new gun they buy new mags anyway. It can't be helped anyway, the AK mag feed point it in the wrong place The AKM hdas the short barrel, collapsible stock and obviously the AKM lower. Internally it is supposed to have a better trigger response and better motor
masadanator Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 the gearbox is exatly the same but they've fixed the hop up issue (sort of) even though all future masadas will have the changes
G-Force Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Bassiccally the Masada ACR takes M4/M16 mags and the AKM takes AKM mags although I'm not sure the AKM takes AK but it should do. Other than that just a few internal tweaks and the AKM has a higher ROF but it's not really noticable.
Supporters M_P Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 It can't take AK mags, the feed point is in the complete wrong place
MZKaleem Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 ACR= win. but common, almost the new basic plain M4 AKM= not practical because i'd rather buy a gun that uses my AK mags but its your choice. everything else is the same.
Supporters Flynn567 Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Vid mite help I would go with the ACR but there's not much in it
Supporters M_P Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Apart from the mentioned parts above If you have m4 mags get the standard acr. If you don't or intend to buy new mags anyway get the AKM
Supporters Flynn567 Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Can the stock of the AKM take a bigger battery?
Supporters Rock-climby-Dave Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Propper answer and to clear a few points up: On the whole they both use proprietary mags anyway - P/Emags and the AKM mags, the ACR being able to use SOME M4/16 mags, but they can have feed issues using non-magpul mags due to fast cycling. AKM will not even hold an AK mag, they simply don't fit. feed hole in the wrong place. AKM mags fit into M4 pouches at the same scale of 1xM4=1xAKM AKM has a shorter barrel and folding stock. AKM has larger mags (160rds over 120rds) There are no hop up issues in either gun, only A&K models have them. Range/accuracy is very similar between the two models. Only with propper measuring in a controlled environment could anyone genuinely tell the difference between them. AKM is more expensive (by £50) due to the barrel difference (new barrels are £110) and a different (better) stock (retails for £80) - do the math. Out of the box absolutely nothing has to be done to it, some people insist on putting a tightbore in them, but all that does is ruin the airseal from the factory for no noticeable gain in performance. AKM does have different motor and trigger setup (some fine tuning I believe) and appears to - extensive test firing of both models - give a sharper trigger response, but neither rifle is sluggish. If you play CQB get the AKM. If you play woodland, get whichever you prefer the looks of.
Supporters M_P Posted September 13, 2011 Supporters Posted September 13, 2011 Can the stock of the AKM take a bigger battery? The battery goes in thr handguard. Thanks for clearing that stuff up Dave
G-Force Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 There are short barell and foldable stock versions of the ACR anyway so you can use that for CQB as well or you can purchase parts seperately. I have a longer barell for woodland a shorter one for CQB and both handguards. I only have the fixed stock but I very rarely fold stocks anyway
Supporters M_P Posted September 14, 2011 Supporters Posted September 14, 2011 Both handguards as in standard and ris or standard and rs spec- there's 3
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