No to ID card petition.

[Rickwales]

Hope this is ok, ive signed and encourage anyone else to sign it. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

[Tackle]

Signed👍

[HZR13]

Signed 👍

[Rickwales]

Thanks I try not to mix hobbies with politics but this one's important. It's a slippery slope. 

[ButcherBill]

I'm not keen on politics in our hobby (usually goes wrong at some point IMO), I don't see any need for one or any need to object either, personally I have an NI number, a driving license, a passport, an employee number, an army number, bank accounts, credit cards, several online numbers, phone numbers, email addresses, google details, a council tax number, a car registration, a birth certificate, a marriage certificate, a marriage disolution, a college student number, a pension number(3), many more & a UKARA.

I believe it's been tried many times & it's already illegal to employ anyone without a right to work in the UK.

[Rickwales]

10 minutes ago, ButcherBill said:

I'm not keen on politics in our hobby (usually goes wrong at some point IMO), I don't see any need for one or any need to object either, personally I have an NI number, a driving license, a passport, an employee number, an army number, bank accounts, credit cards, several online numbers, phone numbers, email addresses, google details, a council tax number, a car registration, a birth certificate, a marriage certificate, a marriage disolution, a college student number, a pension number(3), many more & a UKARA.

I believe it's been tried many times & it's already illegal to employ anyone without a right to work in the UK.

I agree totally mate. 

I don't trust a central database with all my private information. So many have been hacked already. The immortal quote "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" doesn't convince me either. 

[Lyndication]

It is very British that we have so little trust in our government doing a good job, that we prefer hobbling it to any kind of rationalisation of how it works.

[Rickwales]

29 minutes ago, Lyndication said:

It is very British that we have so little trust in our government doing a good job, that we prefer hobbling it to any kind of rationalisation of how it works.

Is that a bad thing? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. 😆 

[Galvatron]

4 hours ago, Rickwales said:

The immortal quote "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" doesn't convince me either. 

 

It's idealistic nonsense along with "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

 

Nobody should be so naive to think everybody has good intentions toward them.

[Tackle]

5 hours ago, ButcherBill said:

I'm not keen on politics in our hobby (usually goes wrong at some point IMO), I don't see any need for one or any need to object either, personally I have an NI number, a driving license, a passport, an employee number, an army number, bank accounts, credit cards, several online numbers, phone numbers, email addresses, google details, a council tax number, a car registration, a birth certificate, a marriage certificate, a marriage disolution, a college student number, a pension number(3), many more & a UKARA.

I believe it's been tried many times & it's already illegal to employ anyone without a right to work in the UK.

I think it's just a headline grabbing knee jerk reaction, a recycled shit idea intended to go some way to placate the masses who marched on London recently, & those who are veering further to the right with their future votes.

I agree, there's already a shitload of info held on us, so why do they need more ?, it won't stop those who already "employ" non documented labour.

[Impulse]

It amuses me watching the Labour party squirm every time someone asks them how IDs will stop small boats crossing the channel and people working illegally in the "shadow economy". Because as we all know, for illegal cash in hand jobs, employers are making sure they're following the law and asking their employees for ID 🤣 

 

I signed it when it was still 100k. As soon as I saw this I searched and signed this petition because this is horrendous government overreach and will definitely be used as a springboard for more tyrannical practices in the future. My guess is central bank digital currencies will be next.

[Rickwales]

Tony Blair's son allegedly has a company that will get the billion pounds contract for this too, but I haven't looked into it yet. I foresee it being used for control in the future. Tied to carbon credits and central bank digital currencies and the like too mate. 

It's also likely distraction for Kiers unpopularity and scandals. 

[Tommikka]

42 minutes ago, Rickwales said:

Tony Blair's son allegedly has a company that will get the billion pounds contract for this too, but I haven't looked into it yet. I foresee it being used for control in the future. Tied to carbon credits and central bank digital currencies and the like too mate. 

It's also likely distraction for Kiers unpopularity and scandals. 

One day it was alledgedly being awarded to Plantair, the next day Euan Blair

 

Bearing in mind that Euans company Multiverse is a training company, and that all these so called contract awards are straight after the intent being announced the supposed reports could be a load of bollocks, and in this case just a convenient nepotism outrage headline based on being the son of the last Labour PM to propose an ID scheme

 

 

[novioman]

Signed.

Dodgy companies who employ migrants who have no right to work in the Uk at the moment wont care a dam if the person has digital I.D or not, its cheap labour for them as they pay them less, cash in hand. 
Don’t this stupid goverment realise that criminals don’t care about rules and regulations. 

[Baser]

I don't really care about having a digital ID card.  The government have all of this information about me on my driving licence, passport, NI number, NHS number, tax returns etc etc. My only real issue(s) are it will cost a medium sized fortune, not 'stop the boats' and the government (every government) can't organise a p**sup in a brewery.  For example we have a NHS app, I also have an app for my GP and an app for our local hospital.  Why not one app? Why don't they talk to each other? 

 

If you apply for and get legitimate job for a legit company you have to supply your employer with passport, driving licence and NI number to prove you are who you say you are and have the right to work.  If you work in the grey / dodgy part of the economy they won't ask for the ID above so won't ask for a digital ID.

 

Spend the money from this project on Home Office staff to audit businesses and fine the life out of them if they have illegal workers.  You never know this might pay for itself or raise some cash for our broken economy when everyone who should be paying tax does. 

 

On second thoughts if we do go digital ID and digital cash how do you pay the illegal workers? Food and accommodation? 

 

Sorry for the political post on an airsoft website.