Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Hi guys I am very new to airsoft and recently purchased my first rifle. Its a G&G CM16 carbine https://nuprol.com/g-g-cm16-carbine-black.html When I tried it in the shop I loved the iron sights but made a typical noob error and didnt try it with a lower face mask. I am finding it difficult to get low enough behind the sight to aim. From what I can see I have 2 options, put a picatinny riser under the rear sight or replace it with a reflex sight. Would a reflex be higher? If i have a high reflex, would I be able to zero it correctly? Any advise would be appreciated. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Cheaper solution: half mesh face mask and remove the padding on the cheeks you get to keep your smile and not need a riser or add unnecessary weight to your gun And yes with a higher dot you'll still be able to zero it. Having a "long" height over bore can cause some issues when firing over cover or a window, you think your muzzle is clear and you just dumb BBs in the window frame or the large trunk you're taking cover behind. It's just something to keep in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Skara said: Cheaper solution: half mesh face mask and remove the padding on the cheeks you get to keep your smile and not need a riser or add unnecessary weight to your gun And yes with a higher dot you'll still be able to zero it. Having a "long" height over bore can cause some issues when firing over cover or a window, you think your muzzle is clear and you just dumb BBs in the window frame or the large trunk you're taking cover behind. It's just something to keep in mind Brilliant thanks for the advice. I will try your suggestion first. When picking a red dot, I am looking at open reflex and tubed. I see a lot of tubed being used, would they be ok or do they obscure your FOV too much? Im looking at this range: https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/red-dot-sights.html Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I prefer tubed as they're sturdier (i'm a function over form type of person), but you pick what you like the most They are both the same though, the point of a dot is to aim with both eyes open, so the optic's body will naturally fade as you focus on the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Right I get it. thanks very much for getting back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 15, 2020 Supporters Share Posted July 15, 2020 Skara's about covered it, I just wanted to clarify that the masks in question look like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/GES-Protective-Breathable-Paintball-Adjustable/dp/B0721SNZ2S Other colours / styles / price points and features are available, the important point is that they've got fabric on the sides, usually padded to some degree. On the sights, oof, those prices. I just run cheap reflex sights. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363037373746 With a sight protector / bit of polycarb stuck on. You can run them on a riser, I'd recommend a 1" see-through like this (UK sellers are probably available, I usually go with InYourSights, but they aren't listing them at the moment) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192038584804 See-through is lighter and also you can, well, see through it, if your optic craps out or you go with a magnified one but want to retain some basic point-and-pew sighting option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Its one like this, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 15, 2020 Supporters Share Posted July 15, 2020 Oops, I derped my post, that was what I was intending to suggest. Are you saying that you've already got one of those, or that you're wanting to get one? If you've got one and still have problems, I'd start throwing rail risers and your choice of optic on there, you'll be able to find a combination that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Oops, I derped my post, that was what I was intending to suggest. Are you saying that you've already got one of those, or that you're wanting to get one? If you've got one and still have problems, I'd start throwing rail risers and your choice of optic on there, you'll be able to find a combination that works. Lol no worries. Yes thats what I currently use. I think I will go down the riser and red dot, should be loads more comfortable. Thanks for the help. Cheers Also I dont mind spending a little extra on the sight as it will also be used on an Ar 15 .22lr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ropeyshep Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Skara said: Cheaper solution: half mesh face mask and remove the padding on the cheeks you get to keep your smile and not need a riser or add unnecessary weight to your gun And yes with a higher dot you'll still be able to zero it. Having a "long" height over bore can cause some issues when firing over cover or a window, you think your muzzle is clear and you just dumb BBs in the window frame or the large trunk you're taking cover behind. It's just something to keep in mind Less hamsteriness in my future. Why are simple things not obvious until someone says it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy13 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ropeyshep said: Less hamsteriness in my future. Why are simple things not obvious until someone says it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ropeyshep said: Less hamsteriness in my future. Why are simple things not obvious until someone says it. You should try being poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ropeyshep Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Skara said: You should try being poor I gave it a go, it didn’t agree with me 🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 16, 2020 Supporters Share Posted July 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Skara said: Having a "long" height over bore can cause some issues when firing over cover or a window, you think your muzzle is clear and you just dumb BBs in the window frame or the large trunk you're taking cover behind. Could be worse - I keep resting my fake barrel on top of cover, with the expected results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Could be worse - I keep resting my fake barrel on top of cover, with the expected results. Well we all know you're speshul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 17, 2020 Supporters Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 10:46, Skara said: Well we all know you're speshul A ricochet kill on yourself is still a kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Oakmont Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Hold the gun higher 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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